POLL: Just to see where everyone stands on Bush

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: alchemize
How about this one:

"While I may not necessarily support every George Bush policy decision, and generally consider myself driven by the issue rather than the political party, I'm so disgusted by the left's attempt to call him every inflammatory insulting name in the book that I'm being pushed to the right and will probably vote for him again just because I'm tired of seeing long haired uneducated idiots on TV calling him a "Nazi" and his policies "facist" and proceeding to break the law then whine about it when they are arrested".

That might not fit though.

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

Actually, I succumbed to my own inflammatory comment. I should have inserted "actor" instead of "idiot".

And I think your characterization of conservatives is incorrect also. I don't have any stats to back me up, but I would guess that conservatism generally = age, and more to lose. I was quite liberal in college. What did I care. Now that I have a wife, 2 children, a home, and responsibilities, I don't want them to inherit a weak country that kowtows to dictators and terrorists.

I also think that someone who deems themselves either a conservative or a liberal, and does not have a logical, factual, and historical basis for their opinions is foolish. And conservatives tend to think in these terms, where liberals think with their hearts.

So you putting it in the poll or not? Take out long-haired too, that's irrelevant.

Edited version:
While I may not necessarily support every George Bush policy decision, and generally consider myself driven by the issue rather than the political party, I'm so disgusted by the left's attempt to call him every inflammatory insulting name in the book that I'm being pushed to the right and will probably vote for him again just because I'm tired of seeing actor on TV calling him a "Nazi" and his policies "facist" and proceeding to break the law then whine about it when they are arrested."

Oh, and I also disagree with the small town, blue collar premise. Unions? Dems. Farmers? Dems (they like the subsidies). Educated businessmen(persons)? Conservatives, and very well travelled. Educated other? Liberals (inherent to their job i.e. social workers, educators, etc.) But even then, impossible to put them in a box. More likely, the "lower-income blue collar southern white folk" you allude to, well they are probably about 50/50. Even old folks, a large margin hold onto their dem backgrounds and refuse to convert.

So anyhow, in essence, your implication that "most lliberals are smart, and conservatives are stupid" shows YOUR inability to look beyond your self, and oblivion to the rest of the world/society.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: alchemize
How about this one:

"While I may not necessarily support every George Bush policy decision, and generally consider myself driven by the issue rather than the political party, I'm so disgusted by the left's attempt to call him every inflammatory insulting name in the book that I'm being pushed to the right and will probably vote for him again just because I'm tired of seeing long haired uneducated idiots on TV calling him a "Nazi" and his policies "facist" and proceeding to break the law then whine about it when they are arrested".

That might not fit though.

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

Wow- just as I suspected....No elitism here.

It must be tiring looking down that long nose of yours.

OK - do you want to answer the second half of my other question from before? Hmm guess not And that bull about his speaking abilities being a direct correlation with intellect, it's not fact

CkG

 

[Tom]

There are at least 3 categories I want to check !

 

[Moonbeam]

Hehe, the really important thing I've learned here is that Corn has discovered the mirror. Will wonders never cease? With some more effort, perhaps, on my part, I will be able to evolve the argument to the stage where everybody accusses everybody else of seeing themselves there. Oh my beloved, wherever I look it appears to be though.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: alchemize
How about this one:

"While I may not necessarily support every George Bush policy decision, and generally consider myself driven by the issue rather than the political party, I'm so disgusted by the left's attempt to call him every inflammatory insulting name in the book that I'm being pushed to the right and will probably vote for him again just because I'm tired of seeing long haired uneducated idiots on TV calling him a "Nazi" and his policies "facist" and proceeding to break the law then whine about it when they are arrested".

I support Bush, he was elected fairly, I support his decision to go to war, but I reserve the right to dissagree with him on any issue

It's close enough. Besides, this Poll is what you think of Bush, not what forces caused you to support of oppose him

 

[Moonbeam]

Bush is an example of what happens when the ballot count is stopped and the real winner has his victory stolen by the supreme coup.

 

[LunarRay]

Bush is slippery. If one had the opportunity to find a place to stand on Bush the resulting movement would render moot the effort. The Pharoah wrote for posterity. Bush may have invaded the garden and brung apples too... but I hope on this he mixes the tablet's mortar with more clarity than his speech.

 

[ConclamoLudus]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
"I think he is the fairly elected leader of this country and I will stand by my Commander and Chief through thick and thin as he probably knows best."

I'm debating with myself whether or not I am surprised that 19% of people would be ready to blindly follow Bush off a cliff.

I'm debating whether or not I'm suprised with the fact that 27.56% (at the time of this posting) seem to think that they are better than Bush and feel it is neccesary to call him "a complete moron", as If they are more qualified/smarter than him

CkG

If IQ were the issue, there is no doubt most of the people who call him a moron would be right. As for qualified, you would have to be a neo-conservative, right wing, born again Christian hawk who can take advantage of the ignorance and gullibility of the average American, so that would exclude most of us.

Any constructive criticism? Your statement does nothing to swing people towards your point of view. Maybe you weren't trying for that. My mistake if not.

 

[DT4K]

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

OMG. Now your just being silly. I don't even own a pickup or a shotgun. And I have degrees in chemistry and computer science from two very liberal colleges. That is so narrow minded, elitist, and simply incorrect.

Did conservatives just "trust" the government when Clinton was in office? No. You make it sound like conservatives are mindless idiots who just do whatever the government says. Conservatives trust Bush because they share the same philosophy and opinions. Just like liberals supported and trusted Clinton because they shared the same opinions.

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

OMG. Now your just being silly. I don't even own a pickup or a shotgun. And I have degrees in chemistry and computer science from two very liberal colleges. That is so narrow minded, elitist, and simply incorrect.

Did conservatives just "trust" the government when Clinton was in office? No. You make it sound like conservatives are mindless idiots who just do whatever the government says. Conservatives trust Bush because they share the same philosophy and opinions. Just like liberals supported and trusted Clinton because they shared the same opinions.

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.

Hmmm, maybe you missed the part where I said "There are exeptions on both sides". And I didn't say all conservatives, I didn't even say most, I said "a good chunk".

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: Shanti
If you honestly think GWB has been bad for the economy, you need to learn just a little about economics.
Firt you have to realize that the economy moves slowly. There are many things in the economy that the president and congress have very little if any control over. Any economic effect of government policy changes will not occur immediately. It may be several years before the policy change has a noticeable effect on the economy. So if you really want to blame anyone for the current economic recession, blame Clinton. The recession did start during his administration. Although I don't blame him at all. I don't think he did anything particularly bad for the economy.

Your efforts are certainly commendable but if you actually expect a reasonable response, you're going to be disappointed.

 

[LivinOnTheEdge]

Bush IS and idiot!

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Shanti

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

OMG. Now your just being silly. I don't even own a pickup or a shotgun. And I have degrees in chemistry and computer science from two very liberal colleges. That is so narrow minded, elitist, and simply incorrect.

Did conservatives just "trust" the government when Clinton was in office? No. You make it sound like conservatives are mindless idiots who just do whatever the government says. Conservatives trust Bush because they share the same philosophy and opinions. Just like liberals supported and trusted Clinton because they shared the same opinions.

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.

Hmmm, maybe you missed the part where I said "There are exeptions on both sides". And I didn't say all conservatives, I didn't even say most, I said "a good chunk".

not generalizing here, but
"a good chunk" of liberals are pot smoking hippies collecting welfare and food stamps with nothing better to do than protest since they dont' have jobs. Of course there are exceptions. Some of them do have jobs. Mostly teaching at universities or working for PETA.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: LivinOnTheEdge
Bush IS and idiot!

Coming from "and" expert apparently.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Bush is an example of what happens when the ballot count is stopped and the real winner has his victory stolen by the supreme coup.

Will you please, please, please give it up already...

 

[ConclamoLudus]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

OMG. Now your just being silly. I don't even own a pickup or a shotgun. And I have degrees in chemistry and computer science from two very liberal colleges. That is so narrow minded, elitist, and simply incorrect.

Did conservatives just "trust" the government when Clinton was in office? No. You make it sound like conservatives are mindless idiots who just do whatever the government says. Conservatives trust Bush because they share the same philosophy and opinions. Just like liberals supported and trusted Clinton because they shared the same opinions.

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.

Well put. It bothers me being judged as a moron just because I lean to the right on a lot of issues. Its a stereotype that unfortunately has a little bit of truth to it just like every stereotype, but its still a poor judgement.

If you would like to convince a group of people that your ideas and opinions are better, I wouldn't start out by calling them morons for blindly following someone that they feels shares their ideas and opinions. People don't respond well to having their intelligence insulted. Especially open-minded people that would like to hear some reasons for your stance. Right-wingers do it and left-wingers do it, and its unfortunate on both sides.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Shanti

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

OMG. Now your just being silly. I don't even own a pickup or a shotgun. And I have degrees in chemistry and computer science from two very liberal colleges. That is so narrow minded, elitist, and simply incorrect.

Did conservatives just "trust" the government when Clinton was in office? No. You make it sound like conservatives are mindless idiots who just do whatever the government says. Conservatives trust Bush because they share the same philosophy and opinions. Just like liberals supported and trusted Clinton because they shared the same opinions.

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.

Hmmm, maybe you missed the part where I said "There are exeptions on both sides". And I didn't say all conservatives, I didn't even say most, I said "a good chunk".

not generalizing here, but
"a good chunk" of liberals are pot smoking hippies collecting welfare and food stamps with nothing better to do than protest since they dont' have jobs. Of course there are exceptions. Some of them do have jobs. Mostly teaching at universities or working for PETA.

WHat size chunk is that? FYI my Funda Mental Case Bitch Sister is a Church Going Conservative who sits home on her fat ass collecting welfare.

As for Clinton being a Liberal? WTF, He out Republicaned the Republicans when he was in office. The only difference between him and his Republican Cohorts is that he fscked women, not his constiuents.

 

[LunarRay]

Quote bySomeone

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.[/quote]

I am certain that the Universities I went to had a much lower % than you indicated... And UCSD has very few.. so the Universities in the South must be nearly 100%.
Difficult to measure educated based on which social philosophy they subscribe to... On a guess, however, I opt for the Liberal one... because he learned what he was taught... So to speak.

 

[oLLie]

I am certain that the Universities I went to had a much lower % than you indicated... And UCSD has very few.. so the Universities in the South must be nearly 100%.
Difficult to measure educated based on which social philosophy they subscribe to... On a guess, however, I opt for the Liberal one... because he learned what he was taught... So to speak.

I agree that the 90% statistic was most likely exaggerated. I'm not sure how you can say that UCSD has "very few" unless you have taken a course from every professor there or have seen a political poll of the faculty. In the social sciences and liberal arts spheres of my school (UCI), I would not be surprised if a large majority was liberal. Let me ask you the same question: do you believe in the liberal arts and social sciences spheres of UCSD, most faculty is liberal? It is irrelevant if the faculty you came into contact with were not liberal if the subject matter was outside of the social arts... because it's not very often that my engineering, math, computer science teacher discusses political viewpoints with me. It is very common for social arts faculty to discuss these views, though. As for your claim that a Liberal is more educated because "he learned what he was taught", I don't believe you made your case very well. It seems more logical to me that he merely regurgitated what was indoctrinated in him. Perhaps you could explain again why a liberal is more intelligent than a conservative without coming off as elitist.

 

[Hulk]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
"I think he is the fairly elected leader of this country and I will stand by my Commander and Chief through thick and thin as he probably knows best."

I'm debating with myself whether or not I am surprised that 19% of people would be ready to blindly follow Bush off a cliff.

I'm debating whether or not I'm suprised with the fact that 27.56% (at the time of this posting) seem to think that they are better than Bush and feel it is neccesary to call him "a complete moron", as If they are more qualified/smarter than him

CkG

If IQ were the issue, there is no doubt most of the people who call him a moron would be right. As for qualified, you would have to be a neo-conservative, right wing, born again Christian hawk who can take advantage of the ignorance and gullibility of the average American, so that would exclude most of us.

I think a few of you synapses are misfiring You really think those ~35 people who called him a moron have a higher IQ? You do know that you are basically on ATOT-WAR right?

As for qualified - what does any of the jibberish you posted have to do with being qualified to be President of the USA and to make the decisions he has to make on a daily basis?

CkG

I do believe if he tested, his IQ would be below average. He's been alive for a long time, attended the best schools, and still hasn't grasped simple English words and grammar rules.

I believe intelligence and knowledge are a big part of making the right decision. You can have the best advisors, but ultimately, you have to decide which advice is best.

Did you mean to say the following?

I believe that a simple IQ test would demonstrate Mr. Bush's below average intelligence. I say this because one would think that by virtue of age and elite schooling alone, he would have acquired proficiency over English enunciation and grammar.


Do you really want to stand by your conclusion regarding the connection between grammar and IQ?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Shanti

Actually most liberals hail from college campuses and are very educated. A good chunk (not generalizing here, but can you deny this?) of conservative America stems from the south and includes that section of white America that is high school educated, lived in small towns their entire lives, and are generally oblivious to the way the rest of the world works. This is why they are so willing to trust the decisions of the gov. Of course there are exceptions to both sides.

OMG. Now your just being silly. I don't even own a pickup or a shotgun. And I have degrees in chemistry and computer science from two very liberal colleges. That is so narrow minded, elitist, and simply incorrect.

Did conservatives just "trust" the government when Clinton was in office? No. You make it sound like conservatives are mindless idiots who just do whatever the government says. Conservatives trust Bush because they share the same philosophy and opinions. Just like liberals supported and trusted Clinton because they shared the same opinions.

Do you know what percentage of college professors are liberals?
Roughly 90%.
Do you know why?
Because they don't live in the real world. They live in the fantasy world of academic elitism. They are the ones who can sit and discuss Karl Marx all day and the greatness of his Utopian visions. They are the ones that are oblivious to the way the world works. They spend too much time discussing theories and philosophies to really see the world the way it is. That is why so many young people are liberals. They have a vision of what the world should be like and they want to help change it. There is nothing wrong with that. But as people age, they tend to become more conservative. They tend to see the way the world really is and develop a greater sense of reality.

Answer this question for me.
Two people spend 4 years in college. 90% of their professors are liberals and although they make an attempt to be unbiased, their liberal viewpoints are very clear.
After graduating and spending 2 years in the real world working and supporting a family,
one of them considers himself a liberal and holds basically the same political views as his liberal professors.
The other considers himself a conservative and holds vastly different political views than his liberal professors.

Tell me which of these two people is more "educated" and which is simply trusting what he has been told.

Hmmm, maybe you missed the part where I said "There are exeptions on both sides". And I didn't say all conservatives, I didn't even say most, I said "a good chunk".

not generalizing here, but
"a good chunk" of liberals are pot smoking hippies collecting welfare and food stamps with nothing better to do than protest since they dont' have jobs. Of course there are exceptions. Some of them do have jobs. Mostly teaching at universities or working for PETA.

WHat size chunk is that? FYI my Funda Mental Case Bitch Sister is a Church Going Conservative who sits home on her fat ass collecting welfare.

As for Clinton being a Liberal? WTF, He out Republicaned the Republicans when he was in office. The only difference between him and his Republican Cohorts is that he fscked women, not his constiuents.

HAHA, that was awesome.

 

[Trezza]

your poll sucks

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Trezza
your poll sucks

That was constructive. How so?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

Which of the candidates in the last Presidential election flunked out of divinity school?

LilBlinbBlahIce, you must have missed my question. It's fairly short and simple and since you are so very concerned about religion and the perception of intelligence you should be interested in the answer.

Do you know who it was?

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Trezza
your poll sucks

That was constructive. How so?

There's not really much variety in the answers, as I'm sure the results show.