Poll: nForce or 760MPX

[ElFenix]

i dunno about good 3d... the geforce mx isn't faster than my sdr geforce (gotta love 5ns ram) to begin with and the one on the northbridge should have less available bandwidth, especially if running a 220 (though i'd run a 420). it should kick the crap out of all the other integrated 3d bits though.

 

[FozzyofAus]

I was really excited about the dual processor setup but reality is starting to kick in and I don't think I can justify spending an extra $300US to get two high end processors and another $300US for the motherboard. I'm looking forward to seeing the performance stats on the Nvidia board and getting an idea of the reliability of the setup. It will be interesting to see how the board handles having all it's PCI slots populated, with or without it's inbuilt features disabled. Maybe an extra next work card, SCSI Controller, Extra parallel port, RAID controller etc.

You shouldn't worry about the inbuilt video. Think of it as a spare in case your main video card packs it in or you are between boards for a while. The really interesting thing is the improved memory interface. If it lives up to expections a 1.7Ghz Athlon4 on one of these boards (with two DDR Ram chips) should be able to beat Dual 1Mhz AthlonMPs on a 760MP based board.

Also given the general level of complaints in this forum (especially from dual processor users, and users of the newer VIA South Bridge) about stability issues with the SB-Live I thought most be people would be excited to here about a high end integrated audio solution.

Regards,
Michael.

 

[WildeBeast]

Lets see, the nForce is a great solution for the basic retail user to have great entertainment facilities and the latest chipset. The 760MPX is for very low end graphic design stations (no true AGP pro) and for 3D rendering or really good proccesor intensive things. The two solutions have absolutely nothing in common. In fact, for 95% of people, a dual processor solution is stupid, and for the remaining 5%, a integrated board is not useful, so there is no choice. Come on, better comparisons people! Try the SiS735 vs. nForce!

 

[ElFenix]

no need to get excited... just wanted to know what people were most looking forward to...

besides... i don't know of anyone who would pick the SiS over the nVidia.

 

[TunaBoo]

MXP is pretty much proven to be good on its promises when it comes out.

nForce could be the best thing ever, or it could suck a big cod.

 

[erub]

i'd REALLY like to try a dual processor rig. I multitask a lot, and run Win2k Pro, so I dont think it would be that strange for me to buy it. Ok, but how much more am I willing to pay for it over a new single CPU solution? I think the magic numbers for me are $50 more for a quality motherboard (~$200) and another $150 for a 2nd CPU.

If it turns out that the motherboards are going to cost $150 more than an average motherboard ($300) and you need 2 expensive multiprocessor certified processors (Anand makes it pretty clear that this isn't necessary, but just in case) I won't be considering it.

 

[Sugadaddy]

SIS735

the MPX is overkill and too expensive for what I do, so it'll be between AMD760, SIS735 and nForce. If I get the nVidia one, it won't be for the integrated stuff though because I know I won't use it.

 

[joohang]

AMD760MP for my workstation.
nForce for my gaming station.
KT133 for my server since it's quite stable at the moment.

For a production server, AMD760MP with AthlonMP, definitely. I loved the database performance benchmark.

 

[whistleclient]

mmmmmmm.... interesting:

DASP - Dynamic Adaptive Speculative Pre-Processor

nForce's IGP features another nifty thing to improve memory latency and thus processor performance. It's called 'DASP', but I consider it to be some kind of smart read-ahead third level cache. NVIDIA is pretty tight lipped about its technology, because the patent is still pending, but what I was told is that it has a TLB-size of around what Palomino's L1-cache (40 entries) and probably also around its size (64 kB). This cache comes with a intelligent pre-fetching mechanism that is supposed to analyze the behavior of different data streams (8-way prediction) and then speculatively read ahead, so that the next access of the CPU can read the data in the cache, thus saving the time it takes to access main memory.

NVIDIA claims that Athlon gains up to 20% performance from it, depending on the application.

 

[Aquaman]

nForce for me if it is as good as it looks in the articles

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[ElFenix]

DASP is like getting chipset hardware prefetch... it will probably be almost worthless when stuff is easily predicted by the athlon4, but when neither is sure it should help a little bit. would be cool to turn it on and off and find out how much it helps in given situations

 

[Splork]

Nither, I'll just drop a 1.4 gig Palmnio in my EPoX 8kta3 and be happy!

-sp

 

[mchammer187]

From Anandtech Computex Day 1 article here

MSI was also showing a 760MP board, labeled only as the MS-6502 for now. While it's not as feature filled as the Thunder K7, it will come in at a much lower price. The current goal is to get it under $200 if possible, but we'll have to wait and see how that plays out. However, don't expect to see the MS-6502 until third or fourth quarter of this year.

an MP board for 200 would be sweet forget Tyan

if u cant afford 2 processors than go with the nForce

 

[Raspewtin]

nforce. money isn't a problem for me w/ this upgrade (since I upgrade so rarely), but I really like the audio features on the nforce, the one driver thing also. so i will buy palamino 1.5 or higher, Asus nforce board, and as many 256 MB DDR sticks as the board can handle (why not at these prices?) and a GF3 i guess

 

[joohang]

<< an MP board for 200 would be sweet forget Tyan >>


I want the Tyan Tiger K7 (w/ATA100RAID).

 

[Compuguru]

nForce, lots of integrated goodies as well as massive memory bandwidth.

 

[Woodie]

Since I already have a dual CPU server, I don't really need a dual setup for my workstation. Besides, by the time I upgrade my current system (next year!) they'll have most of the bugs out.

For me, a non-3d gamer at this point, the integrate video is just fine. The audio sounds like it'll be great for me as well. All I'll need is a case, RAM, and processor. Shouldn't be too expensive, for a great upgrade for me.

--Woodie

 

[Mixxen]

Talk about hype

nForce baby!

 

[ElFenix]

i've already got my ram... just waiting for a board to put it in