Poll on religious tolerance

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

 

[jjzelinski]

I'm completely non-religious and would NOT vote for any of the religious options.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: cubby1223
The funniest part of the poll is the suggestion that Christians are pro-war & pro-poverty. It's only but the "liberal" Christians who oppose such things. I would expect nothing less from he who created the poll

Gosh, maybe if evangelical Christians don't want to be associated with being 'pro-war' and 'pro-poverty', they should distance themselves from the GOP. They have only themselves to blame for having their religion politicized.

Okay. My poll is this:

Would you vote for a conservative atheist (pro-intelligence, anti-democrat)?

Answer: You're implying that being democrat is pro-stupidity.

Rebuttal: Well, maybe they wouldn't be stupid if they'd stop being democrat.

Brilliant, Phokus.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: sapiens74
There is no such thing as an atheist


Everyone has a higher power, whether its their god, money, themselves, their Xbox or whatever....

Obviously you don't know what the word means, it simply means "without belief in a god".

I doubt anyone considers themselves, money or their Xbox to be god or even a higher power.

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

He's a good ol' boy. The kind that are slowly dying out.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: cubby1223
The funniest part of the poll is the suggestion that Christians are pro-war & pro-poverty. It's only but the "liberal" Christians who oppose such things. I would expect nothing less from he who created the poll

Gosh, maybe if evangelical Christians don't want to be associated with being 'pro-war' and 'pro-poverty', they should distance themselves from the GOP. They have only themselves to blame for having their religion politicized.

Okay. My poll is this:

Would you vote for a conservative atheist (pro-intelligence, anti-democrat)?

Answer: You're implying that being democrat is pro-stupidity.

Rebuttal: Well, maybe they wouldn't be stupid if they'd stop being democrat.

Brilliant, Phokus.

I'm sorry but the evangelical Christians of most nations do not even consider the US evangelicals as christians at all, in fact, they see them as the worst of the worst of anything because they are seen, as a group, to be against helping the poor, pro-war, anti-progression in society and as racists and bigots. As a group, Jesus would be appalled by their actions and words.

You want to change that view, well stop behaving in a way that proves their point every single fucking time.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I'm sorry but the evangelical Christians of most nations do not even consider the US evangelicals as christians at all, in fact, they see them as the worst of the worst of anything because they are seen, as a group, to be against helping the poor, pro-war, anti-progression in society and as racists and bigots. As a group, Jesus would be appalled by their actions and words.

You want to change that view, well stop behaving in a way that proves their point every single fucking time.

I'm not an evangelical Christian, but I view simply identifying that there is a God to be a step in the right direction, which counteracts what I believe to be the implied intent of this thread.

I think those on the right disagree wildly with what those on the left call "helping the poor" and certainly with what they call "progression." That's why bringing it up is a loaded question. According to the right, the left is in fact exacerbating the poverty problem, and vice versa.

That's why this whole thread is foolish. Answering the poll questions are contingent upon accepting Craig's characterization of his opponents as pro-evil, pro-stupid, and whatever else. Since any pollster knows that, to get a good result, you have to ask even-handed questions, these polls are poorly crafted, and therefore the results are skewed.

In other words, this poll was crafted to stroke his ego. The questions are asked in such a way as to provoke a desired answer.

The same would apply to a right-winger who asked questions with the opposite political leanings.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: sapiens74
There is no such thing as an atheist


Everyone has a higher power, whether its their god, money, themselves, their Xbox or whatever....

LOL... Uh, false. :thumbsdown:

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I'm sorry but the evangelical Christians of most nations do not even consider the US evangelicals as christians at all, in fact, they see them as the worst of the worst of anything because they are seen, as a group, to be against helping the poor, pro-war, anti-progression in society and as racists and bigots. As a group, Jesus would be appalled by their actions and words.

You want to change that view, well stop behaving in a way that proves their point every single fucking time.

I'm not an evangelical Christian, but I view simply identifying that there is a God to be a step in the right direction, which counteracts what I believe to be the implied intent of this thread.

I think those on the right disagree wildly with what those on the left call "helping the poor" and certainly with what they call "progression." That's why bringing it up is a loaded question. According to the right, the left is in fact exacerbating the poverty problem, and vice versa.

That's why this whole thread is foolish. Answering the poll questions are contingent upon accepting Craig's characterization of his opponents as pro-evil, pro-stupid, and whatever else. Since any pollster knows that, to get a good result, you have to ask even-handed questions, these polls are poorly crafted, and therefore the results are skewed.

In other words, this poll was crafted to stroke his ego. The questions are asked in such a way as to provoke a desired answer.

The same would apply to a right-winger who asked questions with the opposite political leanings.

That wasn't the point, the point is that everytime fundamentalists get a chance to prove anything they always prove one thing, they don't give a fuck about anything but themselves and the only reason they "believe in a god" is so that they can go to heaven, which is also an ego thing.

I do see fundamentalists christians in the US like that and so does the rest of the first world and i'm sorry if that is wrong but as i said it is proven in every single instance they are involved.

Now, fundies don't automatically vote right or left, you'll note that i said nothing about political leanings, i really don't give a fuck about it either. I'll assume that you have become so accustomed to "right wing fundies" that that is what you read instead of what i wrote.

I'm English, i don't give a fuck about yor parties or which one anyone belongs to, i judge individuals based on their own merits, well except fundies because they are just whacked.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: sapiens74
There is no such thing as an atheist


Everyone has a higher power, whether its their god, money, themselves, their Xbox or whatever....

LOL... Uh, false. :thumbsdown:

Maybe Apple fanboys would fit into that.

But aside from "that one time", my Xbox has never told me to stone anyone or run for President.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

So not wanting the president of the US to be something I disagree with is myoptic? It's called conviction. Every single one of you could come up with a few things you would not want your president to be or believe in, you just won't admit it.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: sapiens74
There is no such thing as an atheist


Everyone has a higher power, whether its their god, money, themselves, their Xbox or whatever....

LOL... Uh, false. :thumbsdown:

Well, some nutter said that science was the religion of atheists in some other thread.

So adhere to the science of ourselves, money and Xbox and the lewd be praised!

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

So not wanting the president of the US to be something I disagree with is myoptic? It's called conviction. Every single one of you could come up with a few things you would not want your president to be or believe in, you just won't admit it.

Indeed your convictions make you a very small man in both mind and statue.

A great atheist president with ideas you'd love would is discarded vs a Christian stalinesqe president in your view?

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

So not wanting the president of the US to be something I disagree with is myoptic? It's called conviction. Every single one of you could come up with a few things you would not want your president to be or believe in, you just won't admit it.

Indeed your convictions make you a very small man in both mind and statue.

A great atheist president with ideas you'd love would is discarded vs a Christian stalinesqe president in your view?

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

Oh great enlightened one teach us the way :roll:

Do you know how I know you're stupid? You use oxymorons such as "Christian stalinesque."

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

So you'd vote for a KKK grand wizard for president then?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

So not wanting the president of the US to be something I disagree with is myoptic? It's called conviction. Every single one of you could come up with a few things you would not want your president to be or believe in, you just won't admit it.

No, you're right it doesn't make you myoptic, but it solidfies your myopic view. And it's not called conviction, it's called blind bigotry. Sure there are a few things I wish the president did or didn't have, but in realityville, that just doesn't happen.
Too bad the dumbya years are over for you.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

So you'd vote for a KKK grand wizard for president then?

LOL... really, you really decided that was a good, logical retort? Some psycho racist fuckwit is your ammunition? You're firing blanks.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

So you'd vote for a KKK grand wizard for president then?

Well, now we are comparing apples with FUCKED UP IDIOCY, but ok, i'll let you know what i think.

Yeah, i'd vote for him if he was the better alternative and had sane ideas about his politics and how to implement them.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

So not wanting the president of the US to be something I disagree with is myoptic? It's called conviction. Every single one of you could come up with a few things you would not want your president to be or believe in, you just won't admit it.

Indeed your convictions make you a very small man in both mind and statue.

A great atheist president with ideas you'd love would is discarded vs a Christian stalinesqe president in your view?

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

Oh great enlightened one teach us the way :roll:

Do you know how I know you're stupid? You use oxymorons such as "Christian stalinesque."

Christians are per definition extreme communists if they want to follow Jesus as they claim they do. To do nothing to forth yourself and always help the most unfortunate via an institution devised to do so is definently a communist idea.

You may not want to admit it, but it is what it is.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

So you'd vote for a KKK grand wizard for president then?

LOL... really, you really decided that was a good, logical retort? Some psycho racist fuckwit is your ammunition? You're firing blanks.

If you're going to chastise me for not wanting the pres to have certain beliefs or behaviors, then you had better say you'd vote for anybody regardless if you disagreed very strongly with their beliefs.

Otherwise you're a hypocrite.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

So you'd vote for a KKK grand wizard for president then?

LOL... really, you really decided that was a good, logical retort? Some psycho racist fuckwit is your ammunition? You're firing blanks.

If you're going to chastise me for not wanting the pres to have certain beliefs or behaviors, then you had better say you'd vote for anybody regardless if you disagreed very strongly with their beliefs.

Otherwise you're a hypocrite.

Well, not having certain beliefs or behaviors is SLIGHTLY different than being a klan leader, I could be wrong of course.
I guess I'm a hypocrite...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Interesting poll, and it shows that P&N is completely out of sync with most of America

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: spidey07
Belief in God and not wanting to destroy our nation = OK with me.

No muslims, no athiests, no gays.

what sad little myopic weenie.

So not wanting the president of the US to be something I disagree with is myoptic? It's called conviction. Every single one of you could come up with a few things you would not want your president to be or believe in, you just won't admit it.

Indeed your convictions make you a very small man in both mind and statue.

A great atheist president with ideas you'd love would is discarded vs a Christian stalinesqe president in your view?

I mean, seriously, dismissing some of the greatest minds because you didn't like their personal beliefs... It's just fucking daft. Are you really that daft?

Oh great enlightened one teach us the way :roll:

Do you know how I know you're stupid? You use oxymorons such as "Christian stalinesque."

Christians are per definition extreme communists if they want to follow Jesus as they claim they do. To do nothing to forth yourself and always help the most unfortunate via an institution devised to do so is definently a communist idea.

You may not want to admit it, but it is what it is.

Yea, because Stalin used Christianity to control his people.

I know it's hard for you as a Brit to understand this, but we see our rights to be God given, not by people. So I'm sorry if it's hard for me to accept a President who is atheist, who might go "stalinesque" on us.

And no, Christians are not communists. Jesus asked individuals to help his fellow man. He did not point a gun at society and force them to produce for Him.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: JS80
I know it's hard for you as a Brit to understand this, but we see our rights to be God given, not by people. So I'm sorry if it's hard for me to accept a President who is atheist, who might go "stalinesque" on us.

And no, Christians are not communists. Jesus asked individuals to help his fellow man. He did not point a gun at society and force them to produce for Him.

Jesus also said easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. Let us know which charity you are giving all your worldly goods away to.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: JS80
I know it's hard for you as a Brit to understand this, but we see our rights to be God given, not by people. So I'm sorry if it's hard for me to accept a President who is atheist, who might go "stalinesque" on us.

And no, Christians are not communists. Jesus asked individuals to help his fellow man. He did not point a gun at society and force them to produce for Him.

Jesus also said easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. Let us know which charity you are giving all your worldly goods away to.

Don't worry about me, I plan on dying penniless, even if it means spending all that money to prevent fascist fuck faces like you from stealing from other people.