Poll: One World, One Language?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Isla

Elite member
Sep 12, 2000
7,749
2
0
l2c

I am impressed... Most people have no idea what I am talking about. You are just full of surprises!

Unfortunately, it was a high school course that I took when I was 15 (almost 18 years ago! :Q ) so I can barely translate what you wrote and I sure can't write back in Esperanto.

I wouldn't mind taking it up again, though. It came pretty easily and I would have pursued it, but no real opportunities ever came up.

C'est la vie.

edited: Bad multi-lingual spelling!
 

MadCowMax

Member
Jan 2, 2001
67
0
0
*eyes glaze over* A one world market... *salivates* no more product differntiation among countries...

Esperanto? I remember reading about it, but that's about all I remember about it.

I know somewhere I read about a wearable translator, maybe on Slashdot? Our own personal Babel fish, kinda like those things on Farscape.. SWEET!
 

Elledan

Banned
Jul 24, 2000
8,880
0
0
konichiwa, yes, I'm from The Netherlands
I've learned myself to speak, write and read English since I were six years young

I find it surprising that everyone immediately starts arguing about which language we will use as standard language, with as possible options English, Mandarin Chinese, Spanish and Esperanto (serious try? )

I think, however, that we'll better use an adapted version of English, so that at least the worst inconsistencies are gone. From other languages we can use parts to improve this 'standard language', as we'll call it for now.

The result would be a new language which would be closer to perfection than other languages (if no errors were made during its creation). If other countries won't accept it, they'll be cut off from the rest of the world, as easy as that. And who can possible have something against a new, more efficient language which will solve all linguistic problems all over the world at once?

Introducing this language would take about 20-25 years, since integrating it into everyday life will take some time, and all Humans have to learn it.

Main problem, I think, is the fact that the world is seperated in countries, so if one or more countries create this language, the other countries won't as easily accept it as when they would have taken part in its development, therefore it's important that as many countries as possible will work together on this project.

It does indeed seem like a lot of trouble (which it is), but the reward will be more than worth it.

Compare this to getting up each morning: you know that it would be better for you if you would get up immediately, but you feel such a reluctance against getting up that you stay in your bed until you're (almost) too late for work/school/appointment.

Compare laying in your bed as the current situation with dozens of bigger and smaller languages. Realizing that getting up will be better than staying snoozing in your soft warm bed stands for realizing that one language will be better than multiple. The reluctance against getting up is when we try to convince ourselves that the current situation isn't so bad actually, even though we know that it is.

On a medium like the Internet you can see already the effects of of globalization: since they don't speak one common language, they choose one, which is English. Although there are many sites in other languages, there will always be one standard language.
 

luv2chill

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2000
4,611
0
76
Don't give me too much credit Isla... I don't know much more than the absolute basics of esperanto, but when I was in high school, I (with my idealistic little mind) found the notion of a universal language quite cool. My English teacher at the time gave me an article about Esperanto, and I was intrigued (to say the least!). I bought a book on the subject (the "Teach Yourself" series) and read all about its history, origins, and intended purpose. I even learned a few basics about the grammar and some vocab (as you know it was designed to be simple so there aren't any irregularities in sentence and word construction).

Just as I think that ideal communism is such a great idea, the notion of a truly universal language is also. But I've learned a few things since high school about human nature and the way our world works, and unfortunately, things like this aren't practical (as history has shown us). Esperanto is still a really cool language (I love its simplicity and the way it sounds). Unfortunately, it's not going to thrive in this world because of lack of necessity. As a race, humans don't seem to have the desire to strive, to achieve. Maybe that's because we can't even get past the point of hating and killing each other. Once (if) we ever move past that point, it might become possible for us all work together to create a truly global village. At least that continues to be my hope, however distant.

That "wearable babelfish" idea is MAJORLY cool though... now I do see that as a possibility for the future. Takes all the work off of humans--that's how we like it!

l2c
 

Warpo

Member
Sep 21, 2000
143
0
0
If we choose now to adopt one, worldy-accepted language, in the future I am sure problems would occur. Take 1984's 'Newspeak'. It's goal its goal is to abolish independent thinking. Newer versions of Newspeak slowly factor out the present day vocabulary and create one that suits the Government(s). If words were factored out so people could not be able to express there opinions on subjects, rather just accept them..well...that would suck.

With the hundreds of different languages in our world, there is no change of such a thing happening.
 

Elledan

Banned
Jul 24, 2000
8,880
0
0
We have those two options:

a) One Universal Language or

b) One Universal Translator


The Newspeak used in 1984 can hardly be compared with the situation we've here. Unless the Government is cheating on us once again...
 

jhu

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
11,918
9
81
how about the language of love?

eg. hey baby, wanna come over my place?
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,252
10,840
136
What is Esperanto? Can someone PM me a link to a site that talks about it?

Warpo: Any spoken language is a living thing, independent of what the dictionary writers or government says. Take slang for example, very few dictionaries have slang in them, but some how it is known all over the place.

The government(s) would have the same control over the language as they do now, probably much less actually.
 

xodarap

Senior member
Jan 11, 2001
432
0
0
Yes and no

Yes everyone should learn to speack a common language, but they shouldn't be pushed to write it... let me explain. Litterature and culture are jioned at the hip our diversity in language has lead to our diversity in art our diversity in culture ect. I've heard people argue all the time about how butiful X language is and as far as im concerned its pure BS a language is as butiful as the artisans that have learned to twist it and every language has its own great artisens.

While a new language especially in the information age gives promise of new artisans and brand new unifying ideas and maybe even a unifying culture but we should be hesitant to leave our old artisans behind as an american i know english has some great ones
 

Isla

Elite member
Sep 12, 2000
7,749
2
0
Esperanto is a really good idea that didn't quite catch on as hoped. It's an international language that is relatively easy to learn, but you never hear about it much any more. Oh, well.

Here's a link... maybe you can find more.

Esperanto
 

Elledan

Banned
Jul 24, 2000
8,880
0
0
<<The government(s) would have the same control over the language as they do now, probably much less actually.>>

Zorba brings up a most interesting point here. No Government of any country controls the language(s) spoken in the country. This means that the nightmare of 1984 isn't likely to come true.

After introducing this standard language, what will be the next step? Probably merging all countries. One World, One Language, One Nation.
It will make Humankind finally one again, thereby ending an era filled with violence, murder and war. That is if everything goes right, if not, we'll have to change more things
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |