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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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No citation huh?

What's wrong? Are you too ashamed that you just posted a pic linked to 4chan?

Fucking piece of shit!

Its a real nothing burger. But in all fairness to all the parties involved we should put the nomination on hold and fully investigate every bit of testimony from both of them. That would make it a very fair and open process. Surely given that Kav was completely open and honest in his testimony there shouldn't be anything to fear right?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Its a real nothing burger. But in all fairness to all the parties involved we should put the nomination on hold and fully investigate every bit of testimony from both of them. That would make it a very fair and open process. Surely given that Kav was completely open and honest in his testimony there shouldn't be anything to fear right?

I know for a fact she has directly called for an investigation and I know for a fact that Brett has not and was unwilling to state as much directly, when asked directly.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Good little Catholic choir boy turns out to have been a raging party animal... No problemo, obviously. Forget that. Let's talk about what some guy said Ford said, instead. That's really what's important here.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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Good little Catholic choir boy turns out to have been a raging party animal... No problemo, obviously. Forget that. Let's talk about what some guy said Ford said, instead. That's really what's important here.

Wait, are you saying Kavanaugh was molested/raped? Because that's what seems to be "good little Catholic choir boy" entails. No wonder he became a blackout drunk abuser. Not even kidding, that actually helps make sense out of this more than anything else.

You really expect an honest answer?

I'm sure he's aware that he won't get that from them, but he's interested in what their response will be since they're now clearly trying to push these other narratives. You won't get honesty from them, but it will reveal what they're going for, so that people can refute it and stay ahead of their disinformation.
 
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mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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Wait, are you saying Kavanaugh was molested/raped? Because that's what seems to be "good little Catholic choir boy" entails. No wonder he became a blackout drunk abuser. Not even kidding, that actually helps make sense out of this more than anything else.

I wonder what Kavanaugh breaking down during the interview and revealing such an incident would do to the Catholic church. Rich white boy with lots of powerful friends is suddenly on the victims list...

I suspect how UC would react to such an admission; no times, no dates, no witnesses and a >36 year old memory: Holy shit! I believe him!
 
Nov 25, 2013
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Wait, are you saying Kavanaugh was molested/raped? Because that's what seems to be "good little Catholic choir boy" entails. No wonder he became a blackout drunk abuser. Not even kidding, that actually helps make sense out of this more than anything else.



I'm sure he's aware that he won't get that from them, but he's interested in what their response will be since they're now clearly trying to push these other narratives. You won't get honesty from them, but it will reveal what they're going for, so that people can refute it and stay ahead of their disinformation.

I thought we already knew what folks like 'Mr Concern' were/are doing. Seems pretty bloody obvious to this outsider (outsider in that I'm not American). <shrug>
 
Mar 11, 2004
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I thought we already knew what folks like 'Mr Concern' were/are doing. Seems pretty bloody obvious to this outsider (outsider in that I'm not American). <shrug>

We do and it is, just not the specifics. That does matter because they are ruining people's lives over their rampant insanity. They got a guy to fucking drive all the way to that pizza parlor (from another state), and shoot it up. We need to stamp it down before it gets out of hand, and so we can more easily definitively point to where it came from so that possibly some can be held responsible for when it does get out of hand (like the White Supremacist/Nazi march in Charlottesville, or likewise stuff like the Oklahoma City Bombing).
 
Nov 25, 2013
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We do and it is, just not the specifics. That does matter because they are ruining people's lives over their rampant insanity. They got a guy to fucking drive all the way to that pizza parlor (from another state), and shoot it up. We need to stamp it down before it gets out of hand, and so we can more easily definitively point to where it came from so that possibly some can be held responsible for when it does get out of hand (like the White Supremacist/Nazi march in Charlottesville, or likewise stuff like the Oklahoma City Bombing).

Fair enough although I think what the US (and the world) has to worry about is that the next fascist who comes along will probably be a lot better at this whole 'destroy modern liberal democracy/civil society' business.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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Fair enough although I think what the US (and the world) has to worry about is that the next fascist who comes along will probably be a lot better at this whole 'destroy modern liberal democracy/civil society' business.

We always have to worry about that though. Its not just right wing fascists either, people have to be careful of any cult of personality figure. There's a possibility that the next one will be a corporate figure (Elon Musk, Steve Jobs was pretty close) or a fucking YouTube person. I mean fucking L Ron Hubbard was able to make a religion.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...tes-to-confirm-kavanaugh-slams-dems-as-having

Sorry fellas. Sucks, but so do you're methods.


Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennesee Republican who at times has been at odds with President Trump, told Hill.TV on Tuesday evening that he is confident Senate Republicans will have enough votes to confirm Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh by "no later than Saturday."

Corker also accused Democrats of having "overplayed their hand" in leveling accusations of sexual misconduct and assault by several women and demanding an FBI investigation.

The Senate had previously been scheduled to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination but the Republican majority on Friday agreed to a demand from some members to delay the vote by one week to give the FBI more time to investigate the accusations.

“Cloture may be filed tomorrow … it feels to me like the FBI reports could come in as early as tomorrow, maybe Thursday … my guess is we’re going to vote no later than Saturday,” Corker said in an interview. He said he made that assessment after some "very heartfelt conversations" with his GOP colleagues.

Asked if Kavanaugh will win confirmation, Corker replied “I do.”

You realize that Corker just publicly admitted that it doesn't matter what is in the FBI report, right?
 
Nov 25, 2013
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We always have to worry about that though. Its not just right wing fascists either, people have to be careful of any cult of personality figure. There's a possibility that the next one will be a corporate figure (Elon Musk, Steve Jobs was pretty close) or a fucking YouTube person. I mean fucking L Ron Hubbard was able to make a religion.

Someone out there has been watching Trump and learning. The hard right is on the rise around the world. This has similarities in history but it seems to have a fair bit of difference as well.

To be honest, I wasn't expecting the fascists in the US to show up/expose themselves this quickly. My internal prediction was another 20 or so years. I don't see Trump as your Franco/Mussolini/Pinochet as he's too ignorant but he (and the modern Republican Party) are setting the stage for that guy (or gal) somewhere down the road.

I'm glad I'm old and most likely won't see it.

btw, I have my issues with this book (most particularly with the idea of it being 'friendly' although I do understand his point) but it's worth a read if you have the time



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Fascism_(book)
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Good little Catholic choir boy turns out to have been a raging party animal... No problemo, obviously. Forget that. Let's talk about what some guy said Ford said, instead. That's really what's important here.

sure is. a lot more relevant than yearbooks and calender's from a 17 year old. or asking how to play devils triangle.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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sure is. just like yearbooks and calender's from a 17 year old.

And he just had to lie about it all, repeatedly. He also displayed raw raving partisanship that puts the lie to the notion that he could be above such bias as a justice on the SCOTUS. It would be corrosive to the moral integrity of the court.
 
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