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HomerJS

Lifer
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This keeps getting said but I’m still clueless as to what. What has Kavanaugh lies about?
This was the first lie immediately after his nomination announcement. You will call it a little thing, a throwaway line but I'll say if he's so quick to lie about little things how can we trust him with the big things?
“No president has ever consulted more widely, or talked with more people from more backgrounds, to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination,”
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Your refusal to answer any of our questions pretty much answers the question.

You have nothing.
 

rise

Diamond Member
Dec 13, 2004
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I imagine trump gave him the ole 'fight fire with fire! attack, never yield!' and kavagnaw completely botched it, haha.

He came across as an easily triggered good old boy. No doubt an intelligent man but shocking how easily he was offended and, contrary to appearing as 'defending himself strongly', his rancorous retorts toward seated Senators was unacceptable and disqualifying almost of itself.

Interested to see some new polling on where the general public views their credibility now.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Ford hasn’t been scrutinized like Kavanaugh, we aren’t analyzing her working life, etc. Shes been asked to tell her side of the story which hasn’t been corroborated by anyone. Who knows if she’s lied about anything. It seems your mind is set though.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Ford hasn’t been scrutinized like Kavanaugh, we aren’t analyzing her working life, etc. Shes been asked to tell her side of the story which hasn’t been corroborated by anyone. Who knows if she’s lied about anything. It seems your mind is set though.
Republicans hired a female lawyer who had the job of refuting her testimony. Guess what, she couldn't. Those Senators sat there stone faced when Ford was up. They made no attempt to refute her testimony. Why? Because they couldn't. Ford was COMPLETELY honest.

We've listed many times where Kavanaugh lied yet you refuse to acknowledge. I would think lying during your confirmation hearing is disqualifying. You seem to think that is ok and therein lies the problem with this country. At least 30% of the country.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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They couldn’t because how can you? We literally have nothing to go by but her word. Not to mention that in 2018 you can't be skeptical about sexual assault charges. The allegation simply need to be made and then it’s gospel. That’s the world we live in now and this is laying the groundwork for every political nomination henceforth.

It’s kind of ironic the lawyer defending a case that is simply one person making an allegation of something that almost happened 35 years ago but gets all wish washy when it’s a Dem. A lawyer being a scumbag go figure

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...duct-allegations-against-clinton-franken.html


Katz, in other media appearances first highlighted by Townhall, suggested Jones didn’t have much of a case.

“Clearly a one-time incident that took place in 10 to 12 minutes, she was not forced to have sex, she left on her own volition, the courts increasingly are finding that that is not enough to create a sexually hostile work environment claim,” Katz said in April 1998, according to a transcript of CBS Evening News.

'If a woman came to me with a similar fact pattern, that is someone in the company above her propositioned her but only once and she suffered no tangible job detriment,'' Katz told The New York Times in 1998, ''I would probably tell her that I'm sorry, it's unfair, but you don't have a case.''

Katz, speaking to the newspaper, added, ''If it's one time, it has to be severe, almost a sexual assault, not just a touching of somebody's breast or buttocks or even forceful kissing.”

In more recent years, Katz also downplayed the wave of sexual misconduct allegations against Franken, who denied some of the allegations but eventually resigned from the Senate over them.

"Context is relevant,” Katz said of Franken, who was a comedian before his election to the Senate. “He did not do this as a member of the U.S. Senate. He did this in his capacity of someone who was still functioning as an entertainer.”
I wonder if context matters for her now since Kavanaugh was merely acting in the function of a high schooler.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Answer this UC, do you believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth in the first 40 seconds of his nomination acceptance speech?
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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I haven’t seen it so no idea

The first two lines:

"Brett Kavanaugh:" Mr. President, thank you. Throughout this process, I have witnessed firsthand your appreciation for the vital role of the American judiciary.

No president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a supreme court nomination."
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Sounds like political fluff. Am I supposed to be upset because what if another president consulted with somebody more? I don’t seem to be getting the point.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Sounds like political fluff. Am I supposed to be upset because what if another president consulted with somebody more? I don’t seem to be getting the point.
Did you say something similar to your employer, has any other SC nominee said anything similar? What was his reason for doing so? Do you think he truly was honest and believes what he said?
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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He’s a political appointee. Kissing ass is politics. I’ve never been offered a job with the whole world watching so no I haven’t gave some grandiose speech, I have told them thank you though. I have no idea what other appointees have done nor do I really care to be honest.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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She waited until it became apparent that this man could be appointed to a lifetime position that could potentially ruin countless people's lives forever, Roe V Wade, for one example.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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He’s a political appointee. Kissing ass is politics. I’ve never been offered a job with the whole world watching so no I haven’t gave some grandiose speech, I have told them thank you though. I have no idea what other appointees have done nor do I really care to be honest.
So he lied. Now you can move onto a new shtick.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Going to be interesting when the Dems think they’ve won and try to sit their guy. Wonder if high school catches up with them or what happens when Republicans start analyzing each and every word they say for black and whites. Fun times, stay tuned because this is SOP going forward.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Going to be interesting when the Dems think they’ve won and try to sit their guy. Wonder if high school catches up with them or what happens when Republicans start analyzing each and every word they say for black and whites. Fun times, stay tuned because this is SOP going forward.
Threatening to do shit the Reps have been doing for decades doesn't really scare anyone.
 
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