Poll: Purchase choice motivation

Cerb

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Simple: what most influences your choice in video card? I thought of this just now, as I am already second-guessing my coin toss. Obvously all of these choices are factors, but what is the most important one, in your opinion?

Note: bang/buck is not there intentionally. If it were, it would overwhelm the poll . With stock and OC'd performance in there as well, it would also dilute the results, as the best for your money rides quite a bit on those two choices.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: CerbNote: bang/buck is not there intentionally. If it were, it would overwhelm the poll . With stock and OC'd performance in there as well, it would also dilute the results, as the best for your money rides quite a bit on those two choices.

but that's exactly what motivates me... while i certainly like the 6800u, i'm not gonna pay $600 for one when i can get an 800xt for $450 (or the $350 i paid for my x800pro).
 

McArra

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: CerbNote: bang/buck is not there intentionally. If it were, it would overwhelm the poll . With stock and OC'd performance in there as well, it would also dilute the results, as the best for your money rides quite a bit on those two choices.

but that's exactly what motivates me... while i certainly like the 6800u, i'm not gonna pay $600 for one when i can get an 800xt for $450 (or the $350 i paid for my x800pro).

Yes but maybe for another guy the best bang/buck is a $40 FX5200 (just saying is this as I could say another thing). I think this poll has everything it should. Stock performance for me.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: CerbNote: bang/buck is not there intentionally. If it were, it would overwhelm the poll . With stock and OC'd performance in there as well, it would also dilute the results, as the best for your money rides quite a bit on those two choices.
but that's exactly what motivates me... while i certainly like the 6800u, i'm not gonna pay $600 for one when i can get an 800xt for $450 (or the $350 i paid for my x800pro).
AH, but also what about the guy who gets the 9800SE because it's cheap and has good performance. Oh, he can softmod it, too, and OC it. Well, there's three of the poll choices.
I specifically separated them, as part of what prompted my curiosity was that I am debating between two cards, and the price, stock peformance and OC performance are weighing.

If you pay $600, obviously it's for the stock performance (as not much OCing will be had for a few months yet).
If you paid $200, was it for stock, or get those 9800XT (or 5950u) speeds and still save a wad of cash?
Or did you scour for a deal and manage a FX 5200 for $40 (as McArra noted)? Oc'd or not, that wouldn't be a bad call.
...or did you shell out an extra $20 because it was a BFG?

Budget usually has little impact (unless you're a very early adopter) on whether or not you wish to OC the hell out of it. Also, treating stock performance as the main feature when buying doesn't mean you won't want to OC it, either. So I think I stretched those poll answers as far as I could w/o getting people posting the "<answer x>, but kinda <answer y>, because..." responses.
 

VIAN

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I can't choose just one.

"compatability and reliability" and "stock capabilities and performance" go hand in hand for me.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: CerbNote: bang/buck is not there intentionally. If it were, it would overwhelm the poll . With stock and OC'd performance in there as well, it would also dilute the results, as the best for your money rides quite a bit on those two choices.
but that's exactly what motivates me... while i certainly like the 6800u, i'm not gonna pay $600 for one when i can get an 800xt for $450 (or the $350 i paid for my x800pro).
AH, but also what about the guy who gets the 9800SE because it's cheap and has good performance. Oh, he can softmod it, too, and OC it. Well, there's three of the poll choices.
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ahhh... but you can't pick 3, can you? therefore the entire poll is flawed

I specifically separated them, as part of what prompted my curiosity was that I am debating between two cards, and the price, stock peformance and OC performance are weighing.

If you pay $600, obviously it's for the stock performance (as not much OCing will be had for a few months yet).

not in the context of this forum.. most ppl here would overclock thier card whether it was a $60 card or a $600 card..

If you paid $200, was it for stock, or get those 9800XT (or 5950u) speeds and still save a wad of cash?
Or did you scour for a deal and manage a FX 5200 for $40 (as McArra noted)? Oc'd or not, that wouldn't be a bad call.

see, but 1 performance (on a scale of 1-10) for $40 compared to 8-9 for $3-400 is certainly not best "bang for the buck", it's a compromise of performance for lack of funds (or lack of knowledge - ignorance, after all, is bliss)...

on the other end of the price spectrum, i could have bought a 9800xt last gen, but why pay 60-80% more for 10% increase in performance? there is a point of diminishing returns...

...or did you shell out an extra $20 because it was a BFG?

Budget usually has little impact (unless you're a very early adopter) on whether or not you wish to OC the hell out of it.

i'll agree with that. like i said, most ppl are likely to oc whether it's a budget card or a "flagship" card.. this is, after all, where "enthusiasts" hang out
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: VIAN
I can't choose just one.

"compatability and reliability" and "stock capabilities and performance" go hand in hand for me.
Well, I have until Sunday night, myself. Then I'll have to choose one, and order.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: CerbNote: bang/buck is not there intentionally. If it were, it would overwhelm the poll . With stock and OC'd performance in there as well, it would also dilute the results, as the best for your money rides quite a bit on those two choices.
but that's exactly what motivates me... while i certainly like the 6800u, i'm not gonna pay $600 for one when i can get an 800xt for $450 (or the $350 i paid for my x800pro).
AH, but also what about the guy who gets the 9800SE because it's cheap and has good performance. Oh, he can softmod it, too, and OC it. Well, there's three of the poll choices.
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ahhh... but you can't pick 3, can you? therefore the entire poll is flawed [/quote]Heh, yeah, but that's example of about the highest bang/buck there is.
I specifically separated them, as part of what prompted my curiosity was that I am debating between two cards, and the price, stock peformance and OC performance are weighing.

If you pay $600, obviously it's for the stock performance (as not much OCing will be had for a few months yet).

not in the context of this forum.. most ppl here would overclock thier card whether it was a $60 card or a $600 card..
And I'm in that camp, but the question, in that case, would be: are you buying it more for the performance you should get overclocking, or for the performance you will get out of the box?
If you paid $200, was it for stock, or get those 9800XT (or 5950u) speeds and still save a wad of cash?
Or did you scour for a deal and manage a FX 5200 for $40 (as McArra noted)? Oc'd or not, that wouldn't be a bad call.

see, but 1 performance (on a scale of 1-10) for $40 compared to 8-9 for $3-400 is certainly not best "bang for the buck", it's a compromise of performance for lack of funds (or lack of knowledge - ignorance, after all, is bliss)...

on the other end of the price spectrum, i could have bought a 9800xt last gen, but why pay 60-80% more for 10% increase in performance? there is a point of diminishing returns...

...or did you shell out an extra $20 because it was a BFG?

Budget usually has little impact (unless you're a very early adopter) on whether or not you wish to OC the hell out of it.

i'll agree with that. like i said, most ppl are likely to oc whether it's a budget card or a "flagship" card.. this is, after all, where "enthusiasts" hang out
I'm going to go for passive cooling and OCing, regardless of my decision, so, uh, yeah .
Sapphire 9800 Pro + RAMsinks and ZM-80C (~$245, and OC it!), or
Sapphire 9800 Pro Ultimate (~$235, so-so OCing), or
Leadtek FX 5900XT + RAMsinks and ZM-80C (~$225, and OC it!)?
(+$10 if I decide to buy it all from Newegg)
Given that a new Id engine is coming out, OpenGL performance, where the FXs do rock, can't be discounted, so the performance per dollar is very similar with even minor overclocks, both are pretty reliable now, Leadtek is cheaper and probably has a bit better 2d.
Decisions, decisions!
But anyway, I have everything I need to make my decision, including prospective BIOS info and such, I just have to get around to blowing near a whole check on a video card!
 

VIAN

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Well, I have until Sunday night, myself. Then I'll have to choose one, and order.
Ah, well this is a different story. Both ATI and Nvidia have similar compatability and reliability and luck decides who gets the short end of the stick - so that only leaves stock capabilities and performance. For this, I would wait until Nvidia releases an official driver for the 6800 and then decide.
 

incallisto

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It's not in the poll, but I vote for frame rate and image quality. Those two indicate the conditions of performance for me. I play FPS games and racing games exclusively, so a consistent frame rate and good image quality sell me on a card.

I used to buy nVidia Exlusively. Then I bought a 9700 pro. Now almost all of my PCs are running 9700 Pros and X800 Pros with the exception of a Geforce3 and Ti4600. I do intend to pick up a 6800Ultra when they are readily available.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: VIAN
Well, I have until Sunday night, myself. Then I'll have to choose one, and order.
Ah, well this is a different story. Both ATI and Nvidia have similar compatability and reliability and luck decides who gets the short end of the stick - so that only leaves stock capabilities and performance. For this, I would wait until Nvidia releases an official driver for the 6800 and then decide.
...and releases a $200 NV4x part. Can't wait that long.

Incallisto: that would be "stock capabilities and performance".
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: VIAN
...and releases a $200 NV4x part. Can't wait that long.
It should be within the official release of the 6800 series.
Is that before, say, late July, to get a card that will perform better than a (R360) 9800 Pro for the same price? My understanding is the lowest worth anything will be the plain 6800, at $300.
 

caz67

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Innovation, technology, and speed.

I have just ordered my Leadtek 6800 Ultra.
 

niall

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Cerb: interesting questions, but perhaps not the main ones for extreme enthusiasts.

For me, it's clearly "Compatibility and Reliability", but I'm an odd one: I have several generations of hardware and software that have to talk to each other, and I'll keep my card for years. Mind you, after that, stock capability and performance (framerates, etc) is an extremely close second, but if another card's better but incompatible with my weird requirements, then I can't buy it. Took me 6 months to find a video card. :>
 

Avalon

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Overclocking Capability and Performance. If I can overclock my card to increase performance and save money, then it's a card I'm likely to get. Paying for college is fun
 

Insomniak

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You need to mix options. The two things I look for are performance and compatibility, which is why I almost always go with Nvidia.
 

SithSolo1

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
You need to mix options. The two things I look for are performance and compatibility, which is why I almost always go with Nvidia.

Well I guess 1 outa 2 ain't bad.

"Stock capabilities and performance"

Whatever runs the game that I want to play the best when it out is what I get. Since I haven't seen any benches done with the final version of HL2 I'm still waiting. That said, at this time I am leaning towards an X800XT-PE from HIS or Sapphire's Toxic line. Yes, I could buy an OEM card and slap a VGA cooler but I'd rather have a warranty and not hassle with the modding myself.
 
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