well it seems that if you install all your patches then it should work. Its probably the same with geforce anyways. I wanted the ATI over the nvidia for one reason. 2d quality. 1600x1200 @ 85hz, is a totally different thing with the radeon. Guess what that is. USESABLE! for games and stuff, even though the radeon is slower (hell i've got the fanless one running at 148mhz) it still is plenty fast so its a great card, because of its 2d and dvd, which the geforce has yet to show me it can do as well.