POLL: Should free lunch kids be allowed to buy from snackline at tax payer's expense?

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BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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It isnt about nutrition. I didnt want cookies for nourishment. They just taste so damn good!

You know its one thing for tax paying, employed people to argue this. Thats a different story altogether.

But when a little brat starts saying sh*t like this like something's being taken away from him, its something else. Noone WANTS to be on free lunch.
 

LordMaul

Lifer
Nov 16, 2000
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I suppose it would make more sense to let them buy snacks after they pay for their lunch, and when money is short they just get lunch...I guess.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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<< I was the poor kid in school. I had nothing. I wore the same thing every fvcking day. And now youre trying to tell me you wouldnt have wanted me to have a fvcking cookie, because it would cost you a quarter more!?!?! A quarter you didnt even earn to begin with!

*somebody* earned that quarter, whether it was jerboy or his parents. you are no more entitled to that quarter than he is.

i think... if the free lunch kids are still hungry, they should get more *food*, like quality food, not junk food. but that's just me.
>>



I agree, that is the whole point of the program. Solid nourishment for the kids. The school lunch should contain a balanced meal, but all too often schools are going in favor of more popular (high calorie) foods or the school lunch program loses serious money.
 

djheater

Lifer
Mar 19, 2001
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<< Studies have shown and according to what I see at my daughters elementary....the poorer kids are the most overweight.....been snacking a bit too much.
actually,more like being fed cheaper foods that contain a lot of fat and carbs, instead of lean chicken and fish,fresh fruit and veggies and whole grain breads and cereals.
>>



Exactly....
There are stories of children and pregnant women eating boxes of laundry starch when none was available in thier diets.... Cheap food is higher in calorie and fat content... a healthy diet is often expensive
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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<< I suppose it would make more sense to let them buy snacks after they pay for their lunch, and when money is short they just get lunch...I guess. >>


That's how it was for me. Occasionally I'd get that extra .50 to get a nutty-buddy. Under normal circumstances, I just got a basic lunch (not on the dole).
Essentially the complaint is that some of the kids on the dole are clearly abusing the system.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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<< It isnt about nutrition. I didnt want cookies for nourishment. They just taste so damn good! >>



and the dark truth comes out
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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They need to yank the vending machines and snack line out of your prep school..

that way <<Grey Poupon voice>> you can drink tap water or bring your Perrier from home.

The only vending machines we had at school were the ones in the teachers lounge and one that was available after school..I improvised and had a thriving business that provided me with enough money so that I had all the sodas and candy bars I wanted for free.
 

Yeeny

Lifer
Feb 2, 2000
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<< Essentially the complaint is that some of the kids on the dole are clearly abusing the system. >>



The kids cannot apply for the dole. They cannot fill out the paperwork, or sign anything. They just want a ice cream, (or in bigdees case, a damn cookie!) like all kids. If someone is abusing it, its the parents, not the kids.
 

Jzero

Lifer
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<<

<< Essentially the complaint is that some of the kids on the dole are clearly abusing the system. >>



The kids cannot apply for the dole. They cannot fill out the paperwork, or sign anything. They just want a ice cream, (or in bigdees case, a damn cookie!) like all kids. If someone is abusing it, its the parents, not the kids.
>>



You know what I meant....
 

Yeeny

Lifer
Feb 2, 2000
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<< You know what I meant.... >>



That wasn't in direct reference to you, but the others you were referring to, who were complaining about kids abusing the system. Sorry I didn't make that clearer in my response. It's been a rough couple of days, my brain isn't working so well.
 

Geekbabe

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<< You know what I meant.... >>



That wasn't in direct reference to you, but the others you were referring to, who were complaining about kids abusing the system. Sorry I didn't make that clearer in my response. It's been a rough couple of days, my brain isn't working so well.
>>



Actually it makes me feel good to know that I earn enough that a couple bucks of my money might put a hot meal or an ice cream cone or a cookie in the hands of some kid!! I'm glad to live in a country where we as a group can try to make sure that most vulnerable among us don't go hungry in an attempt to punish their parents !!
 

BD2003

Lifer
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<< Actually it makes me feel good to know that I earn enough that a couple bucks of my money might put a hot meal or an ice cream cone or a cookie in the hands of some kid!! I'm glad to live in a country where we as a group can try to make sure that most vulnerable among us don't go hungry in an attempt to punish their parents !! >>



I hear that. I can definitely afford as many cookies as I want now, but Ill never forget where I came from. Every kid deserves a cookie every now and then, even those whose parents didnt go to graduate school.

If youre 30 and you cant afford a cookie, thats your problem.
 

Geekbabe

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<< Actually it makes me feel good to know that I earn enough that a couple bucks of my money might put a hot meal or an ice cream cone or a cookie in the hands of some kid!! I'm glad to live in a country where we as a group can try to make sure that most vulnerable among us don't go hungry in an attempt to punish their parents !! >>



I hear that. I can definitely afford as many cookies as I want now, but Ill never forget where I came from. Every kid deserves a cookie every now and then, even those whose parents didnt go to graduate school.

If youre 30 and you cant afford a cookie, thats your problem.
>>




Hey I came up from nothing myself, the skinny little,snub nosed mick with the bad attitude and an mouth that got me into no end of trouble, a cookie or an after school program or a little boost along the way never hurt any kid !!!
 

NesuD

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Oct 9, 1999
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Get a LIfe! You need to concern yourself with what you are doing or not doing and stop judging others whom you really know nothing about. You can't possibly know what their lives are like you elitist snob. So what if they have some extra change for the snack line. It's none of your business to begin with. I grew up in a low income home and had those free lunches throughout most of my school life. The rare occurrence where i did have some extra cash for the extras was a welcome treat. You need to lose this impression of superiority you seem to have of yourself. You are no better than anyone else you just had the good fortune to be born into more comfortable circumstances. You are far to young to be able to judge what the finacial resources of a given family is capable of so until you have some real experience managing your own home and family STFU! By the way Moron those free lunch kids parents pay taxes to.
 

Imdmn04

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Jan 28, 2002
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yes, there are people who abuses this system
But this is the real world. there are always gonna be abuses in the welfare system, tax system and in this case the reduced/free meal system.
we cant let these kids goto classes in hunger just because some individual decides to exploit the system

as for the kids buying snacks and getting free lunches, to some extent i agree with you because they need a healthy meal before any snack/junkfood, but we live in America, these kids can buy whatever the hell they want, although you and i might now agree with their choices, but its their decision.

americans arent complete greedy capatalist pigs, we will always help out the ones who are in trouble, and because of that reason, there are always somebody abusing it, but we just have to live with it
 

crypticlogin

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Feb 6, 2001
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Yet another "Look at me!" thread by Jerboy. But this is a first: one of Jerboy's complaints that's not about himself! Well maybe not, but I can't find that pic with the list of his complaints (BTW, that's due an update after this thread).

So exactly how many kids are eligible for the reduced and free lunch programs? Exactly how many of these kids are also jumping into the snack line? And how many lunches are purchased at the full price? The same question above, but for all of the schools in your district? What's the terms of the contract between the school district and the food service provider?

It seems like you're looking for a controversial excuse for the decreased lunch selection and quality but with nothing concrete. You said it yourself: "The rumor is those free lunch kids are using up district's money and the district must charge us more and drop the food quality and selection to compensate for the loss, which I find it quite believable." My middle school lunch program went from good to fair over three years, primarily (and yeah, numbers were given in a newsletter) because not enough students were buying and more were bagging it from home.

And don't you have enough "problems" of your own? I mean, you're still driving this sub-$10k car and heavens, your soda is still missing, isn't it?!?! It might FREEZE somewhere and blow up! Less fortunate kids and how they pay and what they eat for snacks just can't hold a candle to your issues.
 

linuxboy

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Oct 9, 1999
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What do you think?


It boggles my mind. When I was a kid, I didn't bloody eat lunch because I was too proud to beg and too poor to afford buying it. You live in a great country, full of opportunities, where you can sit and dream in freedom without worrying that the ruling political parties will knowck down your door, take your father, and trash the house. You don't have to worry that the opposing incumbent religious group will hunt you down and make you convert because your God is not their God. You probably don't have to worry about how you're going to feed your family or how you will live for the next year since there is a draught. You probably don't have to make your own clothes since you can just go to the store and pick off whatever mass-advertised article is hip and popular. You most likely don't have to worry about hiding in the country since there is a war going on.

And so you worry about this? About what right people have to spend money to buy food, even though they somehow receive food for free and so you feel slighted that you also did not get in on the bandwageon and get free food? You worry about that !!!! It's not fair???

It freaking boggles my mind. I literally have troubles finding my alarm clock in the morning to turn off that blasted beeping noise and you worry about this?? I must be out of touch with the "in-crowd" since I don't know how the bloody hell you worry about this. It just boggles my mind, or what's left of it...

In response to your question, I think that I don't have enough capacity to make this judgment of vast consequences for society.

Cheers !
 

gotsmack

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Mar 4, 2001
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I think free lunch kids should get a bowl of oatmeal and a piece of fruit.

As for you Jerboy, I have a solution for you.

Go to private school. There you'll be around a group of people in the same social standing as yourself. That way you won't have to be pestered by the lower income kids.
 

Lithium381

Lifer
May 12, 2001
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I think they should have to put that cash towards their lunch, if they have the cash to spend, they shouldn't be getting it for free, since obviously they had cash to spend....though i do sympathize with them, they should be alowed snacks too. Take away free lunches and make it all reduced prices......though some families simply cannot afford that......sticky situation
 

arod

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Sep 26, 2000
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At my High School when I went there a few years ago... The free/reduced lunch kids were only allowed to use their free lunch on the main line (whihc is the one that has the 4 course blah blah dietary stuff) The usual lunch line and their credit would not work anywhere else like the snack/pizza etc lines. They were allowed to use their own money on those lines if that had cash but the free meals could only be used for the main line
 

BDawg

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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<< You don't have to worry that the opposing incumbent religious group will hunt you down and make you convert because your God is not their God. >>



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