POLL: Should Microsoft be held financially responsible if my computer gets hacked and information stolen?

[her209]

Assuming that it is a newly discovered exploit and there is no existing fix/patch.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Why should Microsoft be responsible because you are stupid enough to use their products? Take some responsibility for your actions, man.

 

[yllus]

No. Writing code for computers is not like building a car - it's nearly impossible to have a perfect product when you're talking millions of lines of code.

 

[Joker81]

Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Why should Microsoft be responsible because you are stupid enough to use their products? Take some responsibility for your actions, man.

Thank you for your well thought-out and insightful answer.

 

[KarenMarie]

You elected to use the products and not further protect yourself.

they are not liable at all.

 

[amdskip]

If I drive my car into your house, should Honda pay for the house. Stupid poll.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

 

[Bootprint]

I would say not, but MS is painting themselves into a corner by being the only real option for a lot of products. If most business use MS Office wouldn't it be in your best interest to learn it and use it at home.

 

[Ameesh]

of course not.

nobody is putting a gun to your head to use their products.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
of course not.

nobody is putting a gun to your head to use their products.

and if someone did should you sue the gun maker?

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: yllus
No. Writing code for computers is not like building a car - it's nearly impossible to have a perfect product when you're talking millions of lines of code.

Agreed. At this point in time, the "world" of computer programming flat out doesn't know how to make a perfect program, and it's not something that can be easily fixed. We can't just "do it better", a paradigm shift in hardware and programming itself is nessisary in order to be able to do this(otherwise we have to deal with the inheriant flaws in Von Neumann computing); the foundation with today's technology and languages simply doesn't allow perfect programming. The best we can do is "solid" programming, and minimize the security issues and virtually eliminate all non-security bugs(i.e. make an airbag that will always go off), but that kind of programming is extrodinarily time consuming and expensive, and would require a hardware freeze(no new hardware support in Windows) in order to pull it off.

 

[merlocka]

Gosh I'm glad the majority chose no.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: her209
Assuming that it is a newly discovered exploit and there is no existing fix/patch.

you are an idiot.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

Yes you are dumb.

 

[kt]

You should read the EULA that you so readily click on "I Agree" whenever you install a Microsoft product. Who knows what you've agreed to. Probably your first born and your soul for all you know.

 

[Ameesh]

i'll tell you what, if MS and all the companies that distribute linux were held fiscally responsible i guarentee you that linux would be long gone before MS felt the hurt. just because BS trades like eweek dont report on vulnarbilities in linux or oracle or sap or webspeher or notes or whatever doesnt mean they are not happening everyday. pull your fvckin head out of your ass.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

Yes you are dumb.

Haha... so then you should be held responsible for almost getting your ass handed to you in your thread here. Why call the cops man!?

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
i'll tell you what, if MS and all the companies that distribute linux were held fiscally responsible i guarentee you that linux would be long gone before MS felt the hurt. just because BS trades like eweek dont report on vulnarbilities in linux or oracle or sap or webspeher or notes or whatever doesnt mean they are not happening everyday. pull your fvckin head out of your ass.

i concur.

i hate eWeek so much :| bunch of MS bashing idiots...

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

Yes you are dumb.

Haha... so then you should be held responsible for almost getting your ass handed to you in your thread here. Why call the cops man!?

I don't know what that has anything to do with the subject but it was 1 vs. 2 ... also I was worried about them vandalizing my car.

Either way, I was civil, but you appearently are an idiot.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

Yes you are dumb.

Haha... so then you should be held responsible for almost getting your ass handed to you in your thread here. Why call the cops man!?

I don't know what that has anything to do with the subject but it was 1 vs. 2 ... also I was worried about them vandalizing my car.

Either way, I was civil, but you appearently are an idiot.

Why am I the idiot? You are the dumbfvck for borrowing your classmates notes and not returning them when you said you would. You should have know ahead of time that he was gonna hand your ass to you on a silver platter ahead of time.

 

[glugglug]

ANY OS can be made insecure through user installed software and stupidty. Relying on the OS to provide security is foolish. If you are not properly firewalled, this is not M$'s fault.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

Yes you are dumb.

Haha... so then you should be held responsible for almost getting your ass handed to you in your thread here. Why call the cops man!?

I don't know what that has anything to do with the subject but it was 1 vs. 2 ... also I was worried about them vandalizing my car.

Either way, I was civil, but you appearently are an idiot.

Why am I the idiot? You are the dumbfvck for borrowing your classmates notes and not returning them when you said you would. You should have know ahead of time that he was gonna hand your ass to you on a silver platter ahead of time.

God, you really are an idiot, aren't you? Read my fvckin thread. Had a family (health related) emergency, is that so fvckin hard to understand? You fvckin idiot. Go to hell.

 

[Supertastic Fool]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Joker81
Thats like saying should Ford be responsible if I leave a briefcase in my car and someone breaks through the window and steals the briefcase.

But if Ford built a car that had air bags and the air bags didn't deploy and a family member died because of it, Ford should not be responsible? Or am I SOL because I was dumb to buy a Ford?

Yes you are dumb.

Haha... so then you should be held responsible for almost getting your ass handed to you in your thread here. Why call the cops man!?

I'll back him up, you are dumb, there and show me where I have had my a$$ handed to me...

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: glugglug
ANY OS can be made insecure through user installed software and stupidty. Relying on the OS to provide security is foolish. If you are not properly firewalled, this is not M$'s fault.

Firewalls are not always the answer. They reduce your risk, but you will be vulnerable on the ports that you leave open, like www.