Poll:Should prostitution be legal in the US?

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Ever been to Holland? The Dutch are about the nicest, most laid-back bunch I've ever met. They won't even yell at you for speaking English as they like to practice whenever they can.

How many potheads do you know ever get pissed off and abusive? They are some of the most docile and agreeable creatures on the planet.

When did pissed off and abusive come into this? People who don't vote are scumbags, and they're not necessarily pissed off or abusive.

Oh please. Take your morally superior attitude and shove it up your ass. You are the most uninformed, unintelligent, narrow-minded person I've seen yet. Not voting does not make anyone a scumbag, nor does smoking pot or supporting legalization of pot or prostitution.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
No... they spread disease and fornication. It's just plain frikkin sick anyway.

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

EVERYTHING that is illegal is going to happen anyway.

So we should just get rid of the law and government and let anarchy take over, right?

 

[Isla]

Yes, so that it can be regulated.

Kind of like renting something... there should be lots of paperwork/consent forms/agreements/liscences to protect both the renter and the one doing the renting.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Keeping it illegal is what's doing that.

People not respecting the law and having control over themselves is what's doing that

And that's ever going to change?

Turning your back on the 'oldest profession' won't make it go away.

Legalize it.
Regulate it.

Then disease will be reduced as well as crime and free up police to pursue other criminals...those, perhaps, of the more violent type. Or...maybe they can go flag down some idiot drivers.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Ever been to Holland? The Dutch are about the nicest, most laid-back bunch I've ever met. They won't even yell at you for speaking English as they like to practice whenever they can.

How many potheads do you know ever get pissed off and abusive? They are some of the most docile and agreeable creatures on the planet.

So you're saying that, because pot is essentialy legal in Holland, all Dutch are potheads? Go stick your head in the "Tea Rooms" in Amsterdam some day.....you know what you'll see? A sh*tload of stoned American tourists.

 

[yukichigai]

I come from Nevada, boy. It's already legal here.

As prostitution is the World's Oldest Profession I think making it illegal is fairly foolish. It's been around forever and unless we're in the grip of some massive 1984-esque government it will probably continue to be around. By making it legal, controlled and regulated it takes much of the danger out of the practice, i.e. STDs, "rolling" johns, and prostitutes getting hurt/murdered. Believe me, if you try to start something in a brothel some giant with a name like Bubba will have his hairy-knuckled fists around your neck so quick you'll forget you were ever having rough sex with a lady of the evening.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: HotChic
One of the things I could see arising from the legalization of prostitution is that women who are on the edge financially who may NOT want to sell their bodies feel that it's a last resort and do so anyway. There's a big different between making that step when it's legal and making it when it's illegal. No matter what you say, I believe the profession inherently possesses the ability to victimize women - not that all women in the profession are victims, but that many women in that line of work are there because they see nothing else for themselves. If you say that the women are there by *their* choice and that they should be able to make that choice, I think that you're really stretching to rationalize something that allows women to be objectified. So no.

Why do women's clothing and products take up 75% of department stores? Why is there no Victor's Secrets? Why is there no Edward Lauder? Women choose to objectify themselves when they cater to society's whims.

Plus, there would be legalized male prostitutes just like there is male Strip Clubs (ask Eakers)

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
No... they spread disease and fornication. It's just plain frikkin sick anyway.

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

EVERYTHING that is illegal is going to happen anyway.

So we should just get rid of the law and government and let anarchy take over, right?

shut up. you probably haven't ever left your little hick town have you? Go to Amsterdam and see what it's like before you start spewing more BS.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
No... they spread disease and fornication. It's just plain frikkin sick anyway.

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

EVERYTHING that is illegal is going to happen anyway.

So we should just get rid of the law and government and let anarchy take over, right?

This is more of a morality law than something designed to keep peace (for example, murder, rape, armed robbery).

Morality laws are ridiculous, imo.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Ever been to Holland? The Dutch are about the nicest, most laid-back bunch I've ever met. They won't even yell at you for speaking English as they like to practice whenever they can.

How many potheads do you know ever get pissed off and abusive? They are some of the most docile and agreeable creatures on the planet.

When did pissed off and abusive come into this? People who don't vote are scumbags, and they're not necessarily pissed off or abusive.

Oh please. Take your morally superior attitude and shove it up your ass. You are the most uninformed, unintelligent, narrow-minded person I've seen yet. Not voting does not make anyone a scumbag, nor does smoking pot or supporting legalization of pot or prostitution.

Fvck yourself. I don't go around thinking that I'm better than everyone else. Everybody makes mistakes. I simply have higher standards in some areas of life than others. This forum is a forum of opinion. Don't like my opinion? Go elsewhere. Otherwise lets talk about our opinions. I am quite informed, intelligent, and open-minded. But open-minded and all that other junk doesn't mean ignoring issues and agreeing with everybody about everything. Not voting DOES make you a scumbag, if you are eligible to vote and live in this country. So does smoking pot, supporting the legalization, and prostitution.

Suck it.

 

[Amused]

Yes, it should be legal. The government has no right telling people what they may, or may not do with their own bodies.

Laws against prosititution are simply morality based nanny-state laws, no different than safety based nanny-state laws. One party wants to save your body, the other wants to save your soul and both are willing to go to great lengths restricting your freedom to accomplish this.

Both just need to get the hell out of our lives.

FFM, of course people have no self control. It's been usurped by the nanny-state government.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
No... they spread disease and fornication. It's just plain frikkin sick anyway.

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

EVERYTHING that is illegal is going to happen anyway.

So we should just get rid of the law and government and let anarchy take over, right?

shut up. you probably haven't ever left your little hick town have you? Go to Amsterdam and see what it's like before you start spewing more BS.

I have no intension of going to such a country.

 

[vash]

In this world, there is supply and demand. The demand for sex, in the US (and many other places) is quite high and existing prostitution, unregulated, leads to bad, bad things. In many places where prostitution is legal, it is clean, safe, tested and it all comes from regulation. Legalize it and send the bible pounding pundits to the one or two states where it stays illegal.

vash

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

There! That's exactly what I think is messed up about this whole equation. I think prostitution would capitalize on people's desperation when they need money, taking advantage of the poor, if you will. If someone doesn't want to sell their body as a cum receptacle, yet it's that or welfare, it would make it really hard to choose not to do that.

This is less of a conversation about legalizing prostitution for women who find it a legitimate profession and desire to do it, than it is a conversation about legalizing prostitution for women who have almost no other options. The majority of women in this profession will always be the ones who are desperate. :|

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Ever been to Holland? The Dutch are about the nicest, most laid-back bunch I've ever met. They won't even yell at you for speaking English as they like to practice whenever they can.

Scumbags can be really nice... but they can still be a scumbag if they are selling their body for money.

I'm not talking about Dutch prostitutes, I'm talking about the population in general. According to Nik, everyone there should be horribly tainted deviants thanks to all the naughty things they legalize. Strangely, this is not the case.

Think before you post.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Ever been to Holland? The Dutch are about the nicest, most laid-back bunch I've ever met. They won't even yell at you for speaking English as they like to practice whenever they can.

How many potheads do you know ever get pissed off and abusive? They are some of the most docile and agreeable creatures on the planet.

So you're saying that, because pot is essentialy legal in Holland, all Dutch are potheads? Go stick your head in the "Tea Rooms" in Amsterdam some day.....you know what you'll see? A sh*tload of stoned American tourists.

Pull your thong out, it's giving you a wedgie Fausto. I was referring to potheads being docile and agreeable not Hollanders. at no point in my post did I mention Holland.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Ever been to Holland? The Dutch are about the nicest, most laid-back bunch I've ever met. They won't even yell at you for speaking English as they like to practice whenever they can.

How many potheads do you know ever get pissed off and abusive? They are some of the most docile and agreeable creatures on the planet.

When did pissed off and abusive come into this? People who don't vote are scumbags, and they're not necessarily pissed off or abusive.

Oh please. Take your morally superior attitude and shove it up your ass. You are the most uninformed, unintelligent, narrow-minded person I've seen yet. Not voting does not make anyone a scumbag, nor does smoking pot or supporting legalization of pot or prostitution.

cosign

I usually don't like to point fingers at people but I'll make an exception in this case

 

[SandLizard]

Originally posted by: Isla

Kind of like renting something...

isn't it exactly like renting something?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Keeping it illegal is what's doing that.

People not respecting the law and having control over themselves is what's doing that

And that's ever going to change?

Turning your back on the 'oldest profession' won't make it go away.

Legalize it.
Regulate it.

Then disease will be reduced as well as crime and free up police to pursue other criminals...those, perhaps, of the more violent type. Or...maybe they can go flag down some idiot drivers.

That is hardly the worlds oldest profession. Such a deceptive description. It's dirty. It's low. It's not a society that I want my children growing up in.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
No... they spread disease and fornication. It's just plain frikkin sick anyway.

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

EVERYTHING that is illegal is going to happen anyway.

So we should just get rid of the law and government and let anarchy take over, right?

shut up. you probably haven't ever left your little hick town have you? Go to Amsterdam and see what it's like before you start spewing more BS.

I have no intension of going to such a country.

LOL....you claim to be open-minded, then you turn around and say you won't go to Holland. If you're so open-minded, why won't you go there? You might actually come away with a different opinion of marijuana and marijuana users in general. Of course, you've got it all figured out already, don't you?

 

[Garet Jax]

Prostitution yes.

Pimping (or other forms of extortion) no.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. It breeds a horrid society full of scumbags.

Keeping it illegal is what's doing that.

People not respecting the law and having control over themselves is what's doing that

And that's ever going to change?

Turning your back on the 'oldest profession' won't make it go away.

Legalize it.
Regulate it.

Then disease will be reduced as well as crime and free up police to pursue other criminals...those, perhaps, of the more violent type. Or...maybe they can go flag down some idiot drivers.

That is hardly the worlds oldest profession. Such a deceptive description. It's dirty. It's low. It's not a society that I want my children growing up in.

Well...you best setup a colony on the moon, then, as it's never going away. I suppose you, in your cordoned-off little utopia, have never heard that phrase?

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Why do women's clothing and products take up 75% of department stores? Why is there no Victor's Secrets? Why is there no Edward Lauder? Women choose to objectify themselves when they cater to society's whims.

Plus, there would be legalized male prostitutes just like there is male Strip Clubs (ask Eakers)

Fssht. There are women that enjoy making themselves objectified, but I would argue that for the majority, it's an ultimatum. Women want male attention as much as you guys want female attention. They're given the option by culture of objectify themselves and recieve attention or don't objectify themselves and be ignored. You think the majority of women WANT to objectify themselves? Hardly. Very few people would prefer to be objectified over being appreciated for what they truly are, and women are no different. What they're raised to believe (and is fairly true, if you look at male attitudes) is that unless they play the object to attract guys, they're not going to ever get anyone close enough to appreciate them for who they are.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: waylman

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
No... they spread disease and fornication. It's just plain frikkin sick anyway.

Yeah, but prostitution is going to happen anyway no matter what you do. People will always want sex and other people will always need money and be willing to do almost anything about it. If it were legal and regulated, you'd be able to keep the spread of STDs in check to an extent and you'd also take away the pimp's power to abuse the women who work for him or his ability to keep them on a "leash" via drug addiction. Everyone wins.

EVERYTHING that is illegal is going to happen anyway.

So we should just get rid of the law and government and let anarchy take over, right?

shut up. you probably haven't ever left your little hick town have you? Go to Amsterdam and see what it's like before you start spewing more BS.

I have no intension of going to such a country.

LOL....you claim to be open-minded, then you turn around and say you won't go to Holland. If you're so open-minded, why won't you go there? You might actually come away with a different opinion of marijuana and marijuana users in general. Of course, you've got it all figured out already, don't you?

Being open minded does not mean subjecting myself to everything in the book. I have CHOSEN not to participate in such crap. Therefore, why the hell would I want to go to Holland?? Jesus.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


That is hardly the worlds oldest profession. Such a deceptive description. It's dirty. It's low. It's not a society that I want my children growing up in.

Too late.

Name one society in which protitution is not widespread. Just one.

No government, no matter how oppressive, has ever been able to stop it. And the only places in which disease and exploitation has been minimized are those places it has been legalized and taken out of the back alleys.

Besides, who are you to tell a person they can't do what they want with their own body? What's next, regulating what food they can eat?