He already answered in the thread.I love to hear from @GodisanAtheist as to why Greg Abbott should be allowed to make the decision for this woman.
Predictable results in our echo chamber.
In the surveys I've seen when presented with this kind of situation public approval for access to abortion is insanely high. Like high 80s low 90s percent high. So opinions here not really skewed that far from mainstream on this particular scenario.
You voted Yes?
Good for Katie but is this what we want. Women having to beg the courts to exercise their healthcare? What if a woman can't afford a good lawyer?Breaking News: A Texas judge ruled that a pregnant woman who sued the state seeking an abortion can legally terminate her pregnancy
Published 11:14 AM EST, Thu December 7, 2023
Only makes sense, coming from the timeline where you have to talk to a GP before talking to a specialist. May as well add another layer in front of it.The timeline where you have to talk to a judge every time you need basic healthcare is the stupidest timeline.
Next up Ken Paxton starts investigating the judge and the governor calls a special session to impeach and remove her from office.Breaking News: A Texas judge ruled that a pregnant woman who sued the state seeking an abortion can legally terminate her pregnancy
Published 11:14 AM EST, Thu December 7, 2023
Indeed, that is why the turnover of RoevWade is in courts now all over the land. The people are speaking up now.In the surveys I've seen when presented with this kind of situation public approval for access to abortion is insanely high. Like high 80s low 90s percent high. So opinions here not really skewed that far from mainstream on this particular scenario.
In many cases they drag up and leave states like Idaho, where that vagueness is coupled with a citizen reporting mechanism and huge fines.That is the problem right there. The laws are written in such a vague way that Doctors don't feel confident that they can perform medically necessary abortions without being prosecuted by a over zealous DA.
Cox said that although she has gone to the emergency room three times with severe cramping, the law is too vague to make clear whether an abortion under those circumstances would be legal.
One thing I don't understand is why the patient can't be admitted and transferred out of state for the necessary procedure. This happens with other procedures.That is the problem right there. The laws are written in such a vague way that Doctors don't feel confident that they can perform medically necessary abortions without being prosecuted by a over zealous DA.
Cox said that although she has gone to the emergency room three times with severe cramping, the law is too vague to make clear whether an abortion under those circumstances would be legal.
That is against the law in Texas, anyone helping can be prosecuted, including the doctor recommending the transfer to another state's facility, anyone driving the woman to that facility, anyone providing money to any of the above people to assist.One thing I don't understand is why the patient can't be admitted and transferred out of state for the necessary procedure. This happens with other procedures.
(I fully support abortion access without any limitations or qualifications btw)
Even better, Paxton will just ignore the judge, and seek the death penalty for the doctor as provided for under Texas law, and felony indictments on everyone else involved.Next up Ken Paxton starts investigating the judge and the governor calls a special session to impeach and remove her from office.
I'm not surprised. Paxton sits in his office and considers the shittiest thing to do and then does it. What a fucking tool, and fuck the Texas Senate for not convicting him at his impeachment trial.Even better, Paxton will just ignore the judge, and seek the death penalty for the doctor as provided for under Texas law, and felony indictments on everyone else involved.
Updated news from Texas...:
The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”
so if a judge (a lawyer) is not medically qualified to make the determination, what makes paxton (also a lawyer) think he is medically qualified to make that determination? seems to me that should be a decision between the patient and doctor!Even better, Paxton will just ignore the judge, and seek the death penalty for the doctor as provided for under Texas law, and felony indictments on everyone else involved.
Updated news from Texas...:
The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”
Huh? No that's crazy.That is against the law in Texas, anyone helping can be prosecuted, including the doctor recommending the transfer to another state's facility, anyone driving the woman to that facility, anyone providing money to any of the above people to assist.
Have the doctor say they're pregnant, and death penalty would result in a premature pregnancy termination, result in a felony charge for Paxton.Even better, Paxton will just ignore the judge, and seek the death penalty for the doctor as provided for under Texas law, and felony indictments on everyone else involved.
Updated news from Texas...:
The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”
Welcome to Texas law.Huh? No that's crazy.
Only if it survives the SC.That's a violation of federal law
You were right just had the wrong person.Next up Ken Paxton starts investigating the judge and the governor calls a special session to impeach and remove her from office.