Poll: Should the church allow a gay bishop?

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Arkitech

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Well since fornication (sex between 2 people not married to each other) is a sin in the bible I don't see how they could allow this bishop into the church. Especially considering he's had a partner for the last 10 years or so. Although I don't think people can choose their sexual orientation in each and every case, homosexuality is frowned upon in the bible so I would say there's no way he could be a bishop if thats a religion that claims to follow the bible.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
The Catholic church only allows pedophiles in, at least here they just let in hetero- and homosexuals.

And are not men of the cloth suppose to have no sexual orientation at all? So now one man "putting from the rough" is not considered sexually orientated...

That is it. I give up on the church. Bunch of arrogant morons.
 

LakAttack

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Maybe I am a little fuzzy on my history, but didn't the Anglican Church split from the Catholic Church over divorce? I believe there is more "evidence" in the bible condemning divorce than condemning homosexuality. . .
 

Siddhartha

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I wonder how long this will be an issue.
How long will it take the "church" to join the 20th century?
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
The Catholic church only allows pedophiles in, at least here they just let in hetero- and homosexuals.

And are not men of the cloth suppose to have no sexual orientation at all? So now one man "putting from the rough" is not considered sexually orientated...

That is it. I give up on the church. Bunch of arrogant morons.

Well thats the problem nowhere in the bible did it ever see that priests had to be unmarried. Not sure what the Catholics use to base that rule on.
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I wonder how long this will be an issue.
How long will it take the "church" to join the 20th century?

So you don't think it should be an issue? Can I ask why?
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I wonder how long this will be an issue.
How long will it take the "church" to join the 20th century?

So you don't think it should be an issue? Can I ask why?

Homosexuals are people too. To treat them otherwise is bigotry.
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I wonder how long this will be an issue.
How long will it take the "church" to join the 20th century?

So you don't think it should be an issue? Can I ask why?

Homosexuals are people too. To treat them any differently is bigotry.

Correct me if I am wrong but Jesus did not exclude homosexuals in his gospels.

I agree to treat them wrong would be bigotry but would'nt it be wrong for a person who was practicing fornication or adultrey to be bishop or spiritual teacher.
 

spaceman

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the real question is, can a gay bishop move on both white and black spaces on a chess board?


edit:i guess that would make him a bi-shop
 

Kadarin

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One of the things that bothers me is that they want to punish this guy for being honest. In watching the news story on this yesterday, I remember seeing another bishop (or some ranking church official) dressed in red robes who set off my "gaydar", and what came to mind was the thought that it seems to be ok to be gay and in the church, so long as you don't admit it. Worse, there seems to be the hipocrasy that it's ok to be gay, so long as you don't commit any homosexual sexual activity. These people don't realize that being gay is something that you are, not something that you do.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to chuck the whole institution of organized religion out the window and start over? Religion is a parasite on the human psyche.
 

Stojakapimp

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First off, the Catholic Church is not THE church. I think people tend to forget that Catholics and Orthodox used to be the same church until the Cathlics split off in 1054 AD.

Secondly, I think people need to realize that according to many religions, homosexuality is seen as a sin, and knowing that, you would not want a priest or bishop condoning sinful acts. Here's an example. In the Orthodox church, priests are allowed to be married. But if they get divorced once a priest, they may lose their priesthood. This happens because getting divorced does not set a good example for the rest of the congregation...especially coming from their own priest.

So no, I do not think that a gay bishop should be elected. Assuming that homosexuality is a sin, I do not think it would be wise to knowingly put a very pius and holy person in a role where hundreds and thousands of people look up to him. Just my take on it
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Aren't priests supposed to be asexual? If they weren't asexual freaks why would they become priests?

Yes, but it's important to know what sort of sex a priest is abstaining from. So now we're clear that he's giving up gay sex as opposed to those who are giving up hetero sex. So the straight priests need to be asexual and the gay priests need to be asexual, apparently only the pedophile priests are allowed to have a sex life.

 

skace

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Originally posted by: ncircle
the real question is, can a gay bishop move on both white and black spaces on a chess board?


edit:i guess that would make him a bi-shop

Rofl, then he would be a queen :Q :Q
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: ncircle
the real question is, can a gay bishop move on both white and black spaces on a chess board?


edit:i guess that would make him a bi-shop

Rofl, then he would be a queen :Q :Q

I guess the knights were always gay. I should have known.
 

loosliptcomptrola

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I don't think that gays belong in church. The Bible states that homosexuality is inpure so there. The fact that they are even debating this issue shows what morons they are in Catholicism and whateverism. The catholics and Episcopileans are so fu ckt up. People need to be people and have regular sexual tendencies. Like Bob Marley said Every man needs a woman, unless you are an sexually oppressed bishop, in which case you like other men and little boys.
 

glen

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
I find it interesting that Episcopal church has no problem with him being a member, they probably had no problems accepting his money. Hypocracy at it's best.

Where did you get the idea the church accepted him becasue he was giving it money?

 

glen

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Originally posted by: skace
Wait, if this is a religion it should have an absolute good and evil. So whatever gays fall under should be the end of it. There shouldn't need to be a discussion. (Just got done reading an illogical good/evil thread).

You are joking right?
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: IBuyUFO
Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: IBuyUFO
To be honest I really don't care. But this the freaking church. Shouldn't god or whoever it is like everyone no matter what sexual orientation they prefer? Isn't god supposed to be all forgiving and etc? To not allow gay bishop in the church would be the ultimate hypocricy.

I guess it would be okay to let murderers in too, they are god's children also, right? And child molest---oh wait..

You can't compare those 2. To kill is a sin. To be gay I don't think so.

Leviticus 18:22
"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable"

Google is your friend.

Anyway, as far as whether or not they should that's a tough call. If he was previously homosexual but had given that lifestyle up it would be simple. But as it is, the Bible does say it's a sin. On the other hand they look pretty backwards if they keep him out. If I had to pick... I love Kobe Bryant.
 

glen

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The Episcopal Church does NOT take the Bible literally.

For Episcopalians, the New Testament is what is important, NOT the Old.

The Old is useful in that it helps us understand the mindset of the people before the New Testament.

The Episcopal Church is not one to make pronouncements about what is ok or not ok. They will say this is an important issue and the Church needs to think about it, but the Church is not in the business or making moral pronouncements or condemning people.

There are huge numbers of openly gay people in the Episcopal Church, and it is only in this one case where it has caused any controversy. There are some Episcopalians who are against this, but it is a small minority, probably most of the folks in the Anglo-Catholic movement.
 

halik

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id go with no,
since its against the bible as far as i can tell.
Thats like a guy taht fvcks around going for a priest...or a child molestor ... wait a minute ...


But to be serious,
it'd be kinda ackward i mean especially if they believe in that stuff.
 

iLoveDivX

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Apr 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: ncircle
the real question is, can a gay bishop move on both white and black spaces on a chess board?


edit:i guess that would make him a bi-shop

Rofl, then he would be a queen :Q :Q

lol, you two are nuts
 
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