Poll: Should the FBI investigate threats of physical violence against local school board members when localities won't

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Yes if true threats. No if just aggressive/rude.


So that’s yes to investigating to determine if threat exists or not, right? Otherwise, how does your quip make sense? Who determines if a “threat” is just “aggressive” words, whatever that means, or a true threat?
 
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HurleyBird

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So that’s yes to investigating to determine if threat exists or not, right? Otherwise, how does your quip make sense? Who determines if a “threat” is just “aggressive” words, whatever that means, or a true threat?

Ultimately the courts decide. But you do a "sniff test" of the complaint before you investigate anything at all. If it's obviously not going to meet any legal threshold, stop there. If not, then next talk to local law enforcement that punted on it, do another sniff test at that level, and so forth.

The important thing is more intangible, which is the disposition of the feds. If they're on a "mission," then that could go in a scary direction easily, as post 9/11 taught us. The disposition should only be "we're the last resort if local authorities egregiously fail to act. We aren't going to intercede in borderline cases." Abstracting away the current issue, I'm wary of expanding the venn diagram of acts that can prosecuted both at the state and federal level, as giving government two bites at the apple.

Out of curiosity, would you support federal prosecution of rioters and looters in, say, BLM protests, when state and local authorities fail to act?
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Out of curiosity, would you support federal prosecution of rioters and looters in, say, BLM protests, when state and local authorities fail to act?

Dont forget about about Antifa and other fringe left wing black bloc agitators. Rioting, burning, looting are all "harmless protests" if they do it. Andy Ngo is the only one investigating them.
 

eelw

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Dec 4, 1999
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What about counter protests? And word of them during these public school hearings or just parents defending their child from being harassed by supposed adults while walking to school? Waiting for the snowflake outrage against this vs the crap they are attempting to defend just so they don't lose the MAGAtard vote.
 
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SmCaudata

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Oct 8, 2006
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It's all a publicity stunt for the GOP in Senate. They kept calling Garland a "vessel" for the white house and using other religious lingo to claim that Biden was acting like some sort of Supreme being. It was all gag-worthy.

After the shit Barr did, complaining now about partisanship is ridiculous.

I'd say, the left is equally upset with Garlands restraint.... When both sides aren't happy it probably means he's doing well.
 
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SmCaudata

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Dont forget about about Antifa and other fringe left wing black bloc agitators. Rioting, burning, looting are all "harmless protests" if they do it. Andy Ngo is the only one investigating them.
Ahh. Like when unmarked vans were rounding up people and holding them illegally without charges? Often people that were protestor, just homeless? Been there man.
 
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SmCaudata

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Here are some more "peaceful" left wing (Antifa, BLM, black bloc) protestors:

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What does the FBI say? "Nothing to see here."
When the Jan 6 attack on the capital occurred there were over 14,000 arrests related to the Floyd protests. They continue to investigate and charge. In order to charge someone with a fire, you need to figure out who it is. You can't just arrest randomly. The stated ARE investigating. No need for FBI to step in.

Go peddle more conspiracy bullshit though. It makes you look stupid.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Here are some more "peaceful" left wing (Antifa, BLM, black bloc) protestors:

View attachment 52004


What does the FBI say? "Nothing to see here."
You are free to post ANY incident where BLM threatened the lives of others. The other 2 groups are not affiliated in any way with BLM in any way.

This meme is complete horseshit and does not address the OP
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I’m confused, are you ok with the FBI not going after those people or are you fine with it? Do you hold the same feelings about the insurrection perpetrators?
I'll answer for him. He believes in the Ron Johnson defense. He's comfortable with what white Trump supporters did on Jan 6. BLM supporters, his opinion would be different.
 
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Stokely

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Jun 5, 2017
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Yes. If local officials won't act when people are threatened (no matter who is doing the threatening) then by all means they should step in.

Interesting that the GOP is so against this. Not surprising in the slightest, as those are their people doing the threatening in this case. What patriots!
 

SmCaudata

Senior member
Oct 8, 2006
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Has a FEDERAL crime been committed?
That would be the determining factor.
I think threatening state employees can be considered a federal crime. The feds could defer to local authorities if they choose. At least, that is what I was able to gather in brief research. I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong to somone with more knowledge than I.
 

outriding

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Feb 20, 2002
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Has a FEDERAL crime been committed?
That would be the determining factor.


The FBI has very broad powers. They can pretty much anything

 
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