POLL: THE FINAL LCD vs. CRT thread = Lets draw the line!

[pelikan]

I have a one year old ViewSonic VE150 15" LCD. It has a 25ms response time. I play UT2003 a lot. No ghosting. I think it looks great. I watch DVD's on it and they look great. I like having an LCD because I don't feel "fried" after sitting in front of it for hours.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: DX2Player
Ok fine they have a superhot sale that lasts 24hrs but its not avalible normally, im shure they have sales like that for other itesm as well sometimes but those can hardly be considered the norm

actually

dell has these sales quite frequently. their listed price is rarely their price of sale.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Bigger screen less cost .... hmmm CRTs for now

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: chizow

BTW that was a 17" dell LCD screen for $350.00 you just gotta get it at the right time.

$384 for an 18'' Dell Panel sounds even better Edit: Link fixed for the non-subscribing peons.

Yep - I'm about ot be an LCD convert I'll have to say goodbye to my new Viewsonic A90F+ I wonder how much I can sell this thing for - any takers?

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: DX2Player
nothing comes after best

bestest

as in CRTs are the bestest. Why pay 3x the price for ghosting and less than half the resolution?

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: DX2Player
nothing comes after best

bestest

as in CRTs are the bestest. Why pay 3x the price for ghosting and less than half the resolution?

because i value my eyes

<==== spends 5+ hours in front of comp a day

 

[fkloster]

my eyes get soar too ...I have LCD @ work and CRT @ home for games

 

[chizow]

POLL: THE FINAL LCD vs. CRT thread = Lets draw the line!

I find the topic of this poll to be funny, and I don't think anyone has brought this up yet, but:

You do realize that this isn't the end-all-be-all poll right? Each new LCD release/improvement is going to draw more and more to the "Dark Side" as yields/prices improve and more of the LCDs shortcomings are addressed. The worse thing you could do to the LCD industry is to blow up Dell, as every time they run a ridiculous sale, more and more AT/Hotdealers will make the switch. I find it pretty amazing that the poll is pretty even to this point. IIRC one taken a year ago would've been something like 15-25% for LCDs and the overwhelming majority for CRTs.

Chiz

 

[fkloster]

Originally posted by: chizow

POLL: THE FINAL LCD vs. CRT thread = Lets draw the line!

I find the topic of this poll to be funny, and I don't think anyone has brought this up yet, but:

You do realize that this isn't the end-all-be-all poll right? Each new LCD release/improvement is going to draw more and more to the "Dark Side" as yields/prices improve and more of the LCDs shortcomings are addressed. The worse thing you could do to the LCD industry is to blow up Dell, as every time they run a ridiculous sale, more and more AT/Hotdealers will make the switch. I find it pretty amazing that the poll is pretty even to this point. IIRC one taken a year ago would've been something like 15-25% for LCDs and the overwhelming majority for CRTs.

Chiz

Only thing to remember Chiz is that CRT technology is not stagnating...

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: fkloster

Only thing to remember Chiz is that CRT technology is not stagnating...

Unless CRTs go on an overclocked Jenny Craig diet and drop 60lbs and 30 inches off its backside, no minor innovation is gonna make me go back to CRT

Chiz

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: fkloster

Only thing to remember Chiz is that CRT technology is not stagnating...

Unless CRTs go on an overclocked Jenny Craig diet and drop 60lbs and 30 inches off its backside, no minor innovation is gonna make me go back to CRT

Chiz

My 21" Sony doesn't take up much more space than my 18" 1800fp is going to take up, yeah
its a little deeper but it does not take up desk real estate for me because I do not have
my desk against a wall.
Also moving it around is very easy, 67lb is really not that much weight unless you are a girl
or a kid. I am a regular sized guy and I have no trouble moving it around.

I suppose that is what separates the casual users from the enthusiasts...enthusiasts
will sacrafice everything in order to obtain the best picture possible.

While I cant really comment much on the 1800fp I will take a guess that it wont come
close to matching my G520P for video/gaming and graphic use.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: BentValve

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: fkloster

Only thing to remember Chiz is that CRT technology is not stagnating...

Unless CRTs go on an overclocked Jenny Craig diet and drop 60lbs and 30 inches off its backside, no minor innovation is gonna make me go back to CRT

Chiz

My 21" Sony doesn't take up much more space than my 18" 1800fp is going to take up, yeah
its a little deeper but it does not take up desk real estate for me because I do not have
my desk against a wall.
Also moving it around is very easy, 67lb is really not that much weight unless you are a girl
or a kid. I am a regular sized guy and I have no trouble moving it around.

I suppose that is what separates the casual users from the enthusiasts...enthusiasts
will sacrafice everything in order to obtain the best picture possible.

While I cant really comment much on the 1800fp I will take a guess that it wont come
close to matching my G520P for video/gaming and graphic use.

i think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the 1800fp.

also, you say it doesn't take as much room, but that's actually incorrect, you'll be surprised by how much you can put behind an lcd monitor that you could never have done w/ the CRT.

also, i take my 17" lcd around with me when i go on presentations when i know that there will be fewer than 4 people. for a small group like that an LCD is soo much better than a projector. easier to set up. if i set resolution at 800x600 the clients get a good view. they don't have to be very close. the 17" lcd is relatively easy to carry around (not as small as a small projector) but when you consider the ease of setup, the fact that you don't have to worry about lighting issues. you dont' need a wall etc. it's a pretty nice compromise for me.

lcd's are w/o question the future. lcd or plasma. plasmas will get better also and eventually, the crt's will totally disappear.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: BentValve

My 21" Sony doesn't take up much more space than my 18" 1800fp is going to take up, yeah
its a little deeper but it does not take up desk real estate for me because I do not have
my desk against a wall.

Newer CRTs have a smaller profile, but still 2x or more than LCDs. Older CRTs are much bulkier. Yah, it might not make a difference if you have your desk in a corner or you have other reasons for not having it against the wall, but if you don't have it against the wall solely to accomodate the depth of your CRT, you're actually losing much more space in the form of floor/room space.

Also moving it around is very easy, 67lb is really not that much weight unless you are a girl
or a kid. I am a regular sized guy and I have no trouble moving it around.

I'm neither and have spent enough time in the weight room to know that lugging around my G420 and doing skullcrushers with a 60lb curl bar isn't the same thing. Its not inconvenient simply b/c of weight, but also the unwieldyness of its massive dimensions. Its reason enough for me to avoid switching apartments or dreading college moves back in the day.

I suppose that is what separates the casual users from the enthusiasts...enthusiasts
will sacrafice everything in order to obtain the best picture possible.

While I cant really comment much on the 1800fp I will take a guess that it wont come
close to matching my G520P for video/gaming and graphic use.

I know I'm not a casual user, and I've stated my reasons several times why I prefer an LCD over a CRT. The gap will only narrow between the two. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens after you go from CRT to LCD.

Chiz

 

[Pakman]

I'm a convert from my Dell 21" (forget the model, it's the trinitron flat screen P1110 or something) to a 17" Sony LCD I got from Dell for 7 cents. Here's what I like and dislike about it. I like that fact that it doesn't take up much room on my desk and now I am able to fit the keyboard and monitor on the small bridge that are between my 2 desks (I have a U shaped desk). I like the fact how much clearer the text are than my crt (great for web browsing or working with text). Great portability when going to lan parties. Man, whoever said that their 21" monitor ain't that heavy must be the bionic man or something. Sure, it's not too bad when you're just moving it within the same room, but try carrying that sucker for about a block and we'll see how light it really is (which might be the case if you attend lan parties). Here is what I don't like about it. I don't like that fact that the lcd is so clear, that you can often see the flaws in pictures that you weren't able to see with a crt. Also, LCDs cost alot more than a comparable CRT. But, if money wasn't a factor, I would choose a LCD over a CRT. I sure most people would if price wasn't a factor. Price definetly wasn't a factor for me cause I got my lcd for $52.35 shipped.. hehe

 

[Dijay]

"cause I got my lcd for $52.35 shipped.. hehe "

wtf?!%?#?$~?~?

 

[Shagga]

My take on it. Honestly.

I have had my Hitachi CML174 for nearly a month and have been using all the time since it arrived. This TFT has as you all know a 16ms response time and a contrast Ratio of 400:1. I also have what I consider a high specification 19" CRT in a Iiyama Vision Master 450 Pro. When you look at the current 19" CRT monitors from Iiyama the performance of my 450 Pro is far better than the new models. Anyway to answer the question.

The TFT is great. Games are also excellent at it's native resolution. But I cannot stop thinking that I'm missing the CRT. Don't know why. Personally what is bugging me is that my Iiyama VM 450 Pro has an 18.1" viewable and my TFT is 17". So I'm missing the additional 1.1" I think. All psychological I think.

Now what WOULD make me say the TFT is better than the CRT is when I can get a TFT monitor with at least a 1600 x 1200 x 32bpp resolution, WITH a sub 16ms response time and at least a 400:1 contrast ratio and at least an 18 or 19" visible screen. I'd pay a lot of monet for this monitor. Then I could safely put the CRT in in the loft.