Poll: U.S. Whites More Solidly Behind Republican Party

piasabird

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You cant just put up a link. What is your opinion?

In the last few elections the difference between winning and losing elections in some states have been a kind of slim margin. Sometimes it is the undecided vote that moves the vote either to the conservative or liberal side. If people think that the ACA will hurt them financially they might not vote for some democrats.

If people think their money is threatened they vote differently.

In the last election, I think a lot of fundamentalist Christians just refused to vote for a Mormon. I wouldn't doubt that there are still a lot of bigots out there that either didn't vote or couldn't support a Mormon for whatever reason. Still a lot of hate and fear among voters. It had to help the democrats to have such a weak candidate. I think a lot of democrats are hiding and dodging questions about health care. They either out and out lie about ACA or they avoid the subject.
 
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Geosurface

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Lots of people want to protect their privileges.

Yep, which is completely natural, healthy, normal, and appropriate.

White people know that they are happiest and safest when in communities exclusively, or as close to exclusively as possible, comprised of other whites.

That's not me saying something which is up for debate or controversial, btw. That's firmly rooted in crime statistics and widely accepted research on "social capital", civic engagement, etc.

Most whites can't articulate that, or won't, but most of them still know it instinctively. They know that they want to live in a majority white area. They know they'd rather have the cop who pulls them over be white, and the same goes for the jurors who sit at their trial if they should ever have one, the principal of their kid's school, the date their daughter takes to prom, the doctor who treats them, the person who takes their customer support call, the bank teller, etc etc etc.

People feel more comfortable interacting with and living among those who are like themselves. Most of the countries which are highest on the world happiness lists they put out are also some of the most homogeneous countries in the world.

Mass non-white immigration has never been something a majority of the population of any white nation has been in favor of. This is something which has been imposed by a handful of powerful people at the top because they thought they knew better than the rabble below them, or because they wanted cheap labor. These same people who've set so many white nations on a course toward white-minority population always make sure to use their wealth to live in very white areas. I guess it's "diversity for thee, but not for me" as far as they're concerned.

White people see the track record many immigrant groups have in terms of the sorts of societies they left behind, and they are understandably concerned about their societies becoming more like that. Of course they're worried about losing their "privileges" because those privileges are their birth right and were passed down to them by their ancestors. Their ancestors who worked incredibly hard and often had horrendously difficult lives, and who made those nations what they are now. Why should anyone want to see that given to someone else?

It is indeed a privilege to live among others like yourself. The peace of mind that brings is a privilege. The safety that brings is a privilege. When your group has a low crime rate and a high per capita income, it's even more of a privilege. It's a privilege to live in a place with beautiful scenery and which isn't overcrowded with people. Why should anyone want to see such a place transition into being packed with droves of people?

Why should anyone want to see their government become more and more bloated and more and more adept at siphoning tax dollars from them to give to outsiders who are being allowed in to take their jobs and displace them with a higher birth rate?

Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.
 

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Lifer
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Yep, which is completely natural, healthy, normal, and appropriate.

White people know that they are happiest and safest when in communities exclusively, or as close to exclusively as possible, comprised of other whites.

That's not me saying something which is up for debate or controversial, btw. That's firmly rooted in crime statistics and widely accepted research on "social capital", civic engagement, etc.

Most whites can't articulate that, or won't, but most of them still know it instinctively. They know that they want to live in a majority white area. They know they'd rather have the cop who pulls them over be white, and the same goes for the jurors who sit at their trial if they should ever have one, the principal of their kid's school, the date their daughter takes to prom, the doctor who treats them, the person who takes their customer support call, the bank teller, etc etc etc.

People feel more comfortable interacting with and living among those who are like themselves. Most of the countries which are highest on the world happiness lists they put out are also some of the most homogeneous countries in the world.

Mass non-white immigration has never been something a majority of the population of any white nation has been in favor of. This is something which has been imposed by a handful of powerful people at the top because they thought they knew better than the rabble below them, or because they wanted cheap labor. These same people who've set so many white nations on a course toward white-minority population always make sure to use their wealth to live in very white areas. I guess it's "diversity for thee, but not for me" as far as they're concerned.

White people see the track record many immigrant groups have in terms of the sorts of societies they left behind, and they are understandably concerned about their societies becoming more like that. Of course they're worried about losing their "privileges" because those privileges are their birth right and were passed down to them by their ancestors. Their ancestors who worked incredibly hard and often had horrendously difficult lives, and who made those nations what they are now. Why should anyone want to see that given to someone else?

It is indeed a privilege to live among others like yourself. The peace of mind that brings is a privilege. The safety that brings is a privilege. When your group has a low crime rate and a high per capita income, it's even more of a privilege. It's a privilege to live in a place with beautiful scenery and which isn't overcrowded with people. Why should anyone want to see such a place transition into being packed with droves of people?

Why should anyone want to see their government become more and more bloated and more and more adept at siphoning tax dollars from them to give to outsiders who are being allowed in to take their jobs and displace them with a higher birth rate?

Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.

None of this is true, for one. And two, stop reposting your old posts, it's intellectually lazy.
 

Geosurface

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None of this is true, for one.

So not a single thing I typed there was true, eh? I guess I'd be interested in hearing your alternate explanation for white flight then. Or the well established fact that white parents pull their kids out of schools almost without fail when they start to get sufficiently diverse. Or a thousand other examples of that sort of thing. The liberal media actually loves providing examples of how "racist" whites are in these ways. I guess when someone like myself who views it differently points out these same well-established things, suddenly that same evidence is non-existent?

And two, stop reposting your old posts, it's intellectually lazy.

I reposted nothing. Stop accusing people of shit they aren't doing, it's intellectually stupid and annoying.
 

They Live

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Oct 23, 2012
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You cant just put up a link. What is your opinion?

In the last few elections the difference between winning and losing elections in some states have been a kind of slim margin. Sometimes it is the undecided vote that moves the vote either to the conservative or liberal side. If people think that the ACA will hurt them financially they might not vote for some democrats.

If people think their money is threatened they vote differently.

In the last election, I think a lot of fundamentalist Christians just refused to vote for a Mormon. I wouldn't doubt that there are still a lot of bigots out there that either didn't vote or couldn't support a Mormon for whatever reason. Still a lot of hate and fear among voters. It had to help the democrats to have such a weak candidate. I think a lot of democrats are hiding and dodging questions about health care. They either out and out lie about ACA or they avoid the subject.

My opinion? I think the GOP's transformation from a generally progressive party to a far right wing conservative party is complete.
 

They Live

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Yep, which is completely natural, healthy, normal, and appropriate.

White people know that they are happiest and safest when in communities exclusively, or as close to exclusively as possible, comprised of other whites.

That's not me saying something which is up for debate or controversial, btw. That's firmly rooted in crime statistics and widely accepted research on "social capital", civic engagement, etc.

Most whites can't articulate that, or won't, but most of them still know it instinctively. They know that they want to live in a majority white area. They know they'd rather have the cop who pulls them over be white, and the same goes for the jurors who sit at their trial if they should ever have one, the principal of their kid's school, the date their daughter takes to prom, the doctor who treats them, the person who takes their customer support call, the bank teller, etc etc etc.

People feel more comfortable interacting with and living among those who are like themselves. Most of the countries which are highest on the world happiness lists they put out are also some of the most homogeneous countries in the world.

Mass non-white immigration has never been something a majority of the population of any white nation has been in favor of. This is something which has been imposed by a handful of powerful people at the top because they thought they knew better than the rabble below them, or because they wanted cheap labor. These same people who've set so many white nations on a course toward white-minority population always make sure to use their wealth to live in very white areas. I guess it's "diversity for thee, but not for me" as far as they're concerned.

White people see the track record many immigrant groups have in terms of the sorts of societies they left behind, and they are understandably concerned about their societies becoming more like that. Of course they're worried about losing their "privileges" because those privileges are their birth right and were passed down to them by their ancestors. Their ancestors who worked incredibly hard and often had horrendously difficult lives, and who made those nations what they are now. Why should anyone want to see that given to someone else?

It is indeed a privilege to live among others like yourself. The peace of mind that brings is a privilege. The safety that brings is a privilege. When your group has a low crime rate and a high per capita income, it's even more of a privilege. It's a privilege to live in a place with beautiful scenery and which isn't overcrowded with people. Why should anyone want to see such a place transition into being packed with droves of people?

Why should anyone want to see their government become more and more bloated and more and more adept at siphoning tax dollars from them to give to outsiders who are being allowed in to take their jobs and displace them with a higher birth rate?

Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.

If you really want to live somewhere where it's mostly all whites, why not move to Iceland?
 

They Live

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So not a single thing I typed there was true, eh? I guess I'd be interested in hearing your alternate explanation for white flight then. Or the well established fact that white parents pull their kids out of schools almost without fail when they start to get sufficiently diverse. Or a thousand other examples of that sort of thing. The liberal media actually loves providing examples of how "racist" whites are in these ways. I guess when someone like myself who views it differently points out these same well-established things, suddenly that same evidence is non-existent?



I reposted nothing. Stop accusing people of shit they aren't doing, it's intellectually stupid and annoying.

I think what he meant to say is that you often make similar posts ranting about how horrible diversity is, and how great countries with no diversity are. You do repeat yourself often.
 

Geosurface

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Not really.

So everyone who is born into a middle class household should busily set about giving away whatever small measure of wealth their family has passed down to them, including selling the car and inviting homeless people to come live in the house, letting a family of Mexican migrant workers live in the basement rent-free, and basically just filling the place to absolute capacity in that fashion?

It is incumbent upon all people on this planet who have a better situation than anyone else to give until it hurts and not allow themselves to be in a better position than anyone else?

Or is it natural to want to pass down wealth and prosperity to your children, and want to retain what your parents gave you? Is it natural to be grateful for the advantages you have and want to retain them?

I mean, I hear talk these days about "able bodied privilege" (yes, I really do) so I suppose I should gouge out my eyes in solidarity with the blind, and chop my legs off in solidarity with the crippled? After all, according to you it isn't natural, healthy, or normal to want to retain my privileges.

If you really want to live somewhere where it's mostly all whites, why not move to Iceland?

Is Iceland the only place which should be left to whites when it's all said and done? There's every reason to believe nowhere at all will be left to whites. Right now Idaho is very white, but it's also a very nice place to live and will inevitably draw more and more and more and more non-whites. When "white flight" takes place, the whites who fled aren't just simply allowed to live by themselves. The standard pattern is that the suburbs eventually have to be retreated from too. Why should whites expect this process to ever stop? Canada which was once incredibly white is rapidly transitioning. The northwest states will do so, and are already doing so. Why should Iceland be any different?

Is it truly not reasonable, at all, for someone to say "hey wait a second, when I was born here my people were 90% of the population and now we're 70%... what's going on?" - is it not reasonable for people to want to retain their nations, neighborhoods, cities? Globally, nobody else is really undergoing this kind of dispossession.

I think what he meant to say is that you often make similar posts ranting about how horrible diversity is, and how great countries with no diversity are. You do repeat yourself often.

"Repost" has a meaning distinct from "repeat" - he didn't tell me I was tediously repeating points I'd made before, he claimed I reposted. That was false, and so I pointed its falsity out.
 
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trenchfoot

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So everyone who is born into a middle class household should busily set about giving away whatever small measure of wealth their family has passed down to them, including selling the car and inviting homeless people to come live in the house, letting a family of Mexican migrant workers live in the basement rent-free, and basically just filling the place to absolute capacity in that fashion?

It is incumbent upon all people on this planet who have a better situation than anyone else to give until it hurts and not allow themselves to be in a better position than anyone else?

Or is it natural to want to pass down wealth and prosperity to your children, and want to retain what your parents gave you? Is it natural to be grateful for the advantages you have and want to retain them?

I mean, I hear talk these days about "able bodied privilege" (yes, I really do) so I suppose I should gouge out my eyes in solidarity with the blind, and chop my legs off in solidarity with the crippled? After all, according to you it isn't natural, healthy, or normal to want to retain my privileges.



Is Iceland the only place which should be left to whites when it's all said and done? There's every reason to believe nowhere at all will be left to whites. Right now Idaho is very white, but it's also a very nice place to live and will inevitably draw more and more and more and more non-whites. When "white flight" takes place, the whites who fled aren't just simply allowed to live by themselves. The standard pattern is that the suburbs eventually have to be retreated from too. Why should whites expect this process to ever stop? Canada which was once incredibly white is rapidly transitioning. The northwest states will do so, and are already doing so. Why should Iceland be any different?

Is it truly not reasonable, at all, for someone to say "hey wait a second, when I was born here my people were 90% of the population and now we're 70%... what's going on?" - is it not reasonable for people to want to retain their nations, neighborhoods, cities? Globally, nobody else is really undergoing this kind of dispossession.



"Repost" has a meaning distinct from "repeat" - he didn't tell me I was tediously repeating points I'd made before, he claimed I reposted. That was false, and so I pointed its falsity out.

Interesting, this notion of being dispossessed. What, in your opinion, is being dispossessed from those you speak of?

Just asking.
 
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Yep, which is completely natural, healthy, normal, and appropriate.

White people know that they are happiest and safest when in communities exclusively, or as close to exclusively as possible, comprised of other whites.

That's not me saying something which is up for debate or controversial, btw. That's firmly rooted in crime statistics and widely accepted research on "social capital", civic engagement, etc.

Most whites can't articulate that, or won't, but most of them still know it instinctively. They know that they want to live in a majority white area. They know they'd rather have the cop who pulls them over be white, and the same goes for the jurors who sit at their trial if they should ever have one, the principal of their kid's school, the date their daughter takes to prom, the doctor who treats them, the person who takes their customer support call, the bank teller, etc etc etc.

People feel more comfortable interacting with and living among those who are like themselves. Most of the countries which are highest on the world happiness lists they put out are also some of the most homogeneous countries in the world.

Mass non-white immigration has never been something a majority of the population of any white nation has been in favor of. This is something which has been imposed by a handful of powerful people at the top because they thought they knew better than the rabble below them, or because they wanted cheap labor. These same people who've set so many white nations on a course toward white-minority population always make sure to use their wealth to live in very white areas. I guess it's "diversity for thee, but not for me" as far as they're concerned.

White people see the track record many immigrant groups have in terms of the sorts of societies they left behind, and they are understandably concerned about their societies becoming more like that. Of course they're worried about losing their "privileges" because those privileges are their birth right and were passed down to them by their ancestors. Their ancestors who worked incredibly hard and often had horrendously difficult lives, and who made those nations what they are now. Why should anyone want to see that given to someone else?

It is indeed a privilege to live among others like yourself. The peace of mind that brings is a privilege. The safety that brings is a privilege. When your group has a low crime rate and a high per capita income, it's even more of a privilege. It's a privilege to live in a place with beautiful scenery and which isn't overcrowded with people. Why should anyone want to see such a place transition into being packed with droves of people?

Why should anyone want to see their government become more and more bloated and more and more adept at siphoning tax dollars from them to give to outsiders who are being allowed in to take their jobs and displace them with a higher birth rate?

Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.

. . . Yet as we as a nation have become more diverse, the violent crime rate has steadily dropped over the last twenty years.

What I hear (for roughly the ten thousandth time) is a white man longwindedly justifying his own racism by arguing that everyone is racist, and that being racist is a good thing. You are obsessed with race and finding pseudo-intellectual justifications for your own racism. You are among the least-decent members of a forum which does nothing whatsoever to weed out indecency. Your posts on race (i.e., all your posts) nearly always make me cringe.

I should know better than to ask, but what "full measure" do you believe white people should employ to protect themselves against the scourge that is "dispossession" by people of color?
 

Ancalagon44

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Its not diversity that is eroding the middle class - its the corporate overloads who want cheaper labour.
 

Meghan54

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What I find completely disingenuous about the "white nation" argument, outside it's completely racist undertones a la StormFront and Nazi-ism, is that some bleat about the U.S. as a white nation while forgetting that when the "whites" invaded this continent, there was already an indigenous population here and the "whites" forced that population to "disappear" through the use of armed force.

Of course, this also ignores the fact that the Hispanics were on this continent in great numbers before their beloved "white nation" was even a twinkle in anyone's eye.
 

Conscript

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The link shows a greater disparity of non whites and the democratic party... what exactly is the point of this?
 

cyclohexane

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If you really want to live somewhere where it's mostly all whites, why not move to Iceland?

Not true for everyone. I actually feel much more comfortable when I live and work around all sorts of people - part of the reason why I really like living in Atlanta.
 

Newell Steamer

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Not much to see here - this is expected frankly.

Simply based on how the GOP has stated they want to reach out to the non-whites, minorities,.. those that want free stuff, etc.
 

Anarchist420

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there are really only two races biologically, they are neanderthal and people who share their mtDNA with apes.

the vast majority of modern Europeans are actually genetically more like the muslims who immigrate to Europe than they are like neanderthals (jews). after all, there has never been a mass genocide against muslims in europe, yet there have been many, many efforts to exterminate neanderjuden in europe. maybe that is because the muslims and most modern europeans feel solidarity with each other.

@ OP: was proven last election cycle that whites supported the GOP by a huge margin. it was 55% white females and 61% white males supporting Romney.

Accumulation of infraction points - the two points I gave for this garbage - resulted in a brief vacation from posting on the forums. -Admin DrPizza
 
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