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Ya gotta love how you tards turn from calling cops shit, pigs, corrupt, etc .. to tenderly loving them with all your heart overnight.


That, and they entirely fucked up. As seen with other past protests, they have the means and capabilities to control this shit. If anyone had even an ounce of sanity, you would instead have a commission on interrogating these retards on how you can fuck up this bad with all the forces and all the equipment they had.

Nope. Instead your progressive "defund the police" shills just passed a bill to increase their budget by 2 BILLION. That's fucking Billion with a B. You guys are sincerely epically retarded.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
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Ya gotta love how you tards turn from calling cops shit, pigs, corrupt, etc .. to tenderly loving them with all your heart overnight.


That, and they entirely fucked up. As seen with other past protests, they have the means and capabilities to control this shit. If anyone had even an ounce of sanity, you would instead have a commission on interrogating these retards on how you can fuck up this bad with all the forces and all the equipment they had.

Nope. Instead your progressive "defund the police" shills just passed a bill to increase their budget by 2 BILLION. That's fucking Billion with a B. You guys are sincerely epically retarded.
Thanks for your input, Gym Jordan wannabe.
 
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Nov 8, 2012
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Thanks for your input, Gym Jordan wannabe.
We get it, you're corporate and government shills, easily bought and paid for. You can't even wrap your heads around the concept of cops will gladly cry on stage if it means insinuating that they need money.

I sincerely can't fathom why you guys think armies of cops with tanks, guns, and equipment galore need another 2 BILLION.

But of course, it was passed by your approved overlords, so you quickly turn a blind eye to it and divert/ignore any confrontation on the subject as clearly evidenced by your post.
 
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Commodus

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2004
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Ya gotta love how you tards turn from calling cops shit, pigs, corrupt, etc .. to tenderly loving them with all your heart overnight.


That, and they entirely fucked up. As seen with other past protests, they have the means and capabilities to control this shit. If anyone had even an ounce of sanity, you would instead have a commission on interrogating these retards on how you can fuck up this bad with all the forces and all the equipment they had.

Nope. Instead your progressive "defund the police" shills just passed a bill to increase their budget by 2 BILLION. That's fucking Billion with a B. You guys are sincerely epically retarded.

Please stop arguing against a straw man... and using childish anti-disability slurs, for that matter. You're an adult, start acting like one.

It's possible to criticize police abuses, and argue for a scaled back role for police, while also sympathizing with officers who were victims of unprovoked and unjustified violence. I and many others want police who are accountable, free of prejudices, slow to use violence and deployed only when a less confrontational solution isn't an option. That doesn't mean we sympathize with anything and everything inflicted against officers.

Oh, there already has been work done to understand the procedural failings behind January 6th. The problem is that Republicans have obstructed efforts to establish the root causes... I mean, we all know it was Trump, but Republicans don't want to formally admit they tolerated and sometimes promoted sedition.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Please stop arguing against a straw man... and using childish anti-disability slurs, for that matter. You're an adult, start acting like one.

It's possible to criticize police abuses, and argue for a scaled back role for police, while also sympathizing with officers who were victims of unprovoked and unjustified violence. I and many others want police who are accountable, free of prejudices, slow to use violence and deployed only when a less confrontational solution isn't an option. That doesn't mean we sympathize with anything and everything inflicted against officers.

Oh, there already has been work done to understand the procedural failings behind January 6th. The problem is that Republicans have obstructed efforts to establish the root causes... I mean, we all know it was Trump, but Republicans don't want to formally admit they tolerated and sometimes promoted sedition.
Especially with “help” like this...https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/michael-flynn-brother-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
 
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K1052

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increase their budget by 2 BILLION. That's fucking Billion with a B.

This is inaccurate. USCP budget was not increased by 2B. About 1.2B of the bill is for dealing with Afghan nationals who assisted the US.

Over 500M of what's left is just to cover the National Guard's expenses.

Legislative Branch Agencies—$406 million to support the Capitol Police and to secure the
United States Capitol, including:
• U.S. Capitol Police – $70.7 million in Salaries and General Expenses for the Capitol Police response to the January 6 attack and to meet urgent gaps and demands to protect the U.S. Capitol Complex, Members of Congress, congressional employees, and visitors, including:
o $31.1 million to backfill overtime expected until the Department can hire, train, and deploy more officers and benefits to retain current officers, including $6.9 million for hazard pay, $3.6 million for retention bonuses, and $2.5 million for tuition credits to help with retention;
o $4.4 million for Wellness and Trauma Support, including 6 new mental health counselors and wellness resilience specialists, and $2.5 million to reimburse the U.S. Marshals Service for peer-to-peer trauma support;
o $3.3 million for the Intelligence Division for intelligence analysts and technical resources;
o $5.8 million for protective details for Members of Congress due to increased threats and risk assessments;
o $5 million for Equipment and Services, including $2.7 million for reimbursement for equipment since the January 6 insurrection, $1.3 million for gas masks,
tactical vests, body armor and other equipment, $900,000 for cellular phone
capability, and $100,000 for legal support;
o $2.6 million to procure basic riot control equipment to outfit all officers with
ballistic helmets, batons, and body shields; and
o $6.8 million for Capitol Police specialized training, including $3.3 million for
collective threat, cyber, intelligence, and counter assault training; $2.6 million for physical protection barriers and Civil Disturbance Unit (CDU) equipment; and $880,000 for specialized vehicles and tactics training for the CDU.
  • Mutual Aid Reimbursements to Law Enforcement Partners – $35.4 million for mutual aid reimbursements and related training for existing mutual aid agreements between the Capitol Police and Federal, State and local law enforcement partners.

  • Architect of the Capitol (AOC) – $300 million, including:
    o $283 million to upgrade accessible windows and doors of the Capitol Building
    and Senate and House office buildings; and
    o $17 million to install new cameras around the Capitol Building and House office
    buildings for safety and security purposes.

  1. Legislative Branch Agencies—$42.1 million to assist in the response to COVID-19, including:
    • Architect of the Capitol – $22 million for reimbursements and other costs of the response to COVID-19. This includes enhanced cleaning, personal protective equipment, telework equipment, essential overtime pay, and salaries of employees of impacted contractors subject to furloughs and/or layoffs.
    • Senate Sergeant at Arms – $7.8 million for reimbursements and other costs of the response to COVID-19. This includes personal protective equipment, telework equipment, contractor support costs, and emergency supplies.
    • U.S. Capitol Police – $800,000 for reimbursements and other costs of the response to COVID-19. This includes personal protective equipment and hotel rooms for officers and civilian staff who were unable to return home to due COVID-19-positive cohabitants.


National Guard Reimbursement
$521 million is provided to fully fund the cost of the

National Guard deployment to Capitol Hill, which is urgently needed to prevent cancellation of
summer drills for members of the Army National Guard and Air National Guard.
Department of Defense—$500 million in Department of Defense Overseas Humanitarian,
Disaster, and Civic Aid to provide emergency transportation, housing, and other essential
services to Afghan partners leaving the country. The Departments of Defense and State are
currently coordinating on efforts to support these Afghans and their families, and additional
funds are provided to State for similar purposes.


https://www.appropriations.senate.g...tal Appropriations Act 2021_Summary_FINAL.pdf
 
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Vic

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We get it, you're corporate and government shills, easily bought and paid for. You can't even wrap your heads around the concept of cops will gladly cry on stage if it means insinuating that they need money.

I sincerely can't fathom why you guys think armies of cops with tanks, guns, and equipment galore need another 2 BILLION.

But of course, it was passed by your approved overlords, so you quickly turn a blind eye to it and divert/ignore any confrontation on the subject as clearly evidenced by your post.

Wait... I thought you were against defunding the police? Now you're for it?

And unfortunately, because your approved overlords tried to overthrow our Constitutional govt because they were butthurt over losing an election, it has become necessary to increase security at the Capitol to ensure that doesn't happen again.

But I am really amused at the same poster (you!) whose lips are permanently affixed to Corporate America's cock calling anyone a corporate shill. Tell us again why Chick fil a is so great and people should avoid local restaurants. Tell us again why wages need to be kept low, lest our corporate masters automate us out of work. Tell us some more why taking down Confederate statues is "erasing history" but teaching that slavery ever even existed is some kind of socialist SJW tyranny. Lecture us again about how you're a "qualified CPA," and yet you don't even know what a yield spread is (OMG inflation in a low interest rate environment is a disaster!).

To be honest, I actually enjoy watching you make a complete fool of yourself. Always desperately scrambling to appear right rather than actually be right.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
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I'm devastated. Now I'll have to cry into a glass of Pappy Van Winkle while lamenting the harsh reality of my failed existence.
My insults are THAT powerful, I know.

The disconnect between the sanity and intelligence of your humor and the abject retrograde ignorance of your political stances, though, is a circle I simply cannot square.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Ya gotta love how you tards turn from calling cops shit, pigs, corrupt, etc .. to tenderly loving them with all your heart overnight.


That, and they entirely fucked up. As seen with other past protests, they have the means and capabilities to control this shit. If anyone had even an ounce of sanity, you would instead have a commission on interrogating these retards on how you can fuck up this bad with all the forces and all the equipment they had.

Nope. Instead your progressive "defund the police" shills just passed a bill to increase their budget by 2 BILLION. That's fucking Billion with a B. You guys are sincerely epically retarded.
Ya gotta love how you went from "blue lives matter" to those cops are lying, they weren't abused and beaten, it was their fault and there was no insurrection, your eyes are lying to you.

Trump keeps shooting it out and you keep swallowing.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Wait... I thought you were against defunding the police? Now you're for it?

And unfortunately, because your approved overlords tried to overthrow our Constitutional govt because they were butthurt over losing an election, it has become necessary to increase security at the Capitol to ensure that doesn't happen again.

But I am really amused at the same poster (you!) whose lips are permanently affixed to Corporate America's cock calling anyone a corporate shill. Tell us again why Chick fil a is so great and people should avoid local restaurants. Tell us again why wages need to be kept low, lest our corporate masters automate us out of work. Tell us some more why taking down Confederate statues is "erasing history" but teaching that slavery ever even existed is some kind of socialist SJW tyranny. Lecture us again about how you're a "qualified CPA," and yet you don't even know what a yield spread is (OMG inflation in a low interest rate environment is a disaster!).

To be honest, I actually enjoy watching you make a complete fool of yourself. Always desperately scrambling to appear right rather than actually be right.

You are on a roll! I declare today, that some1onesbitch is your bitch today.

You would think that someone who continuously gets schooled by other posters and who’s only contribution to this forum is random social media posts, that they would learn to just shut up but no, he wants to leave zero doubt just how much of an idiot he is. Amazing!
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Stripped of extraneous bullshit for clarity-

That, and they entirely fucked up. As seen with other past protests, they have the means and capabilities to control this shit. If anyone had even an ounce of sanity, you would instead have a commission on interrogating these retards on how you can fuck up this bad with all the forces and all the equipment they had.

Yeh, they failed to anticipate just how far Trump would go to remain in power after losing the election & the blind ferocity of his most ardent devotees. Pure cult of personality stuff. Prior to Trump, I never anticipated that my fellow Americans would be so foolish as to elect such a man to be President. And now it's become even more foolish as they attempt to shift the blame for the events he created. For Shame.
 
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shortylickens

No Lifer
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The fact you are arguing with trolls and morons means every single one of you is a dumbass.



Also I think the pigeon parable works especially well in this thread:



 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
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HomerJS

Lifer
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So the spin now to delegitimize this committee is

It's political
It's a partisan Pelosi project

Remember, Democrats wanted a bipartisan committee with equal power sharing but Republicans rejected it.

As far as the political argument, the attack on the US Capital was political and this investigation is FAR less political then Benghazi which went on for almost 4 years.
 
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Pohemi

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Oct 2, 2004
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So the spin now to delegitimize this committee is

It's political
It's a partisan Pelosi project

Remember, Democrats wanted a bipartisan committee with equal power sharing but Republicans rejected it.

As far as the political argument, the attack on the US Capital was political and this investigation is FAR less political then Benghazi which went on for almost 4 years.
The rethuglicvnts were bleating that lie within a week of the insurrection (any investigative actions or arrests were supposedly only political in nature because only white people broke laws, etc).
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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My insults are THAT powerful, I know.

The disconnect between the sanity and intelligence of your humor and the abject retrograde ignorance of your political stances, though, is a circle I simply cannot square.
It's not difficult to understand. Just imagine that you had no one else in the world to depend on. That every dime you earned was from the sweat of your brow, that if you didn't go find the work and develop a good reputation you were toast, and that the primary focus of government was to stand in your way. Live that for forty years and you have me.
So yes, I'm a fairly conservative fellow, though I'm by no means a republican. Generally, weather I'm a conservative or a liberal depends entirely on who's shouting at me, and that's usually dependent on who I won't hate, or which band wagon I won't jump on.
There is another forum I hang out at that tends to be hard right (though far more respectful than P&N) and those folks are convinced I'm a blue haired California liberal, and probably a communist. I find it amusing.
 
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Pohemi

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It's not difficult to understand. Just imagine that you had no one else in the world to depend on. That every dime you earned was from the sweat of your brow, that if you didn't go find the work and develop a good reputation you were toast, and that the primary focus of government was to stand in your way. Live that for forty years and you have me.
So you started outside reality from the beginning?

Such independent. Very bootstraps. You never had help from parents, family, friends, colleagues, or the massive infrastructure of the nation you were raised in. It was purely nothing but your own elbow grease and determination.

Such laughable bullshit.

I see why you cannot find reality again after so many decades of self-brainwashing.
 
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