Poll: Was the creation of the Jan 6 select committee legitimate?

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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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What you are saying is that if Republicans turn down a fair deal then the only fair thing Democrats can do is not have the investigation because whatever it is it won't be as fair and so won't be legit. That is just absurd logic. Republicans were never going to agree to any investigation because they had a big hand in causing the events that require one to be done.

You are basically saying that the defendant in a criminal trial should be able to say the trial is not legit because of the risk of conviction.


No, that is not what I said or meant in the least. Thanks for your input anyway.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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No, I don't. You would just like for me too. I posted what I thought on Bengazi. It has nothing to do with this topic.

I have already agreed they should have taken the deal as it was, but they didn't. Nancy is playing the "phuck you" card. She can do that if she wants. It isn't going to help things or make anything legitimate. This is true regardless of what you or I think of Bengazi. Lord knows Nancy has never been vengeful or ruthless...
What else could Nancy have done to make this committee fair in your eyes?? Who is responsible for this committee not being legitimate IYO?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Good, it's not illegal, so take your biased opinion and fuck off. Republicans have spent the last 2 decades behaving in really shitty ways, and when pressed on it all they can say is: "It's not illegal"

#butthurt
#dealwithit


LOL

WTF triggered you? What a joke.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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What else could Nancy have done to make this committee fair in your eyes?? Who is responsible for this committee not being legitimate IYO?

This is not fair in an any sense.
" select committee where Democrats are the majority and have sole subpoena power. "

AND

I have already stated that the republicans should have accepted the original offer which was entirely fair as far as I know. They screwed the pooch and now Nancy will extract her pound of flesh.

She went from getting turned down straight to vindictive. What would it hurt to have another meeting or two to sort out the members and the rules
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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This is not fair in an any sense.
" select committee where Democrats are the majority and have sole subpoena power. "

AND

I have already stated that the republicans should have accepted the original offer which was entirely fair as far as I know. They screwed the pooch and now Nancy will extract her pound of flesh.

She went from getting turned down straight to vindictive. What would it hurt to have another meeting or two to sort out the members and the rules

Lol, history shows R's have no intention of operating in good faith.

Fuck them, fuck you.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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This is not fair in an any sense.
" select committee where Democrats are the majority and have sole subpoena power. "

AND

I have already stated that the republicans should have accepted the original offer which was entirely fair as far as I know. They screwed the pooch and now Nancy will extract her pound of flesh.

She went from getting turned down straight to vindictive. What would it hurt to have another meeting or two to sort out the members and the rules
Having a meeting is a waste of time unless Nancy can give them something. What else could she give them they didn't have in the independent committee proposal? Should Republicans have majority power?
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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This is not fair in an any sense.
" select committee where Democrats are the majority and have sole subpoena power. "

AND

I have already stated that the republicans should have accepted the original offer which was entirely fair as far as I know. They screwed the pooch and now Nancy will extract her pound of flesh.

She went from getting turned down straight to vindictive. What would it hurt to have another meeting or two to sort out the members and the rules
There is absolutely nothing vindictive about the House majority holding a majority of positions on a committee. Offering the treasonous Republicans equal membership was a far too generous offer to begin with. I understand why the Speaker made the offer (and I disagree with her reasons) and I understand why Kevin McCarthy turned it down (he was one of the fucking traitors on Jan 6th).
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Having a meeting is a waste of time unless Nancy can give them something. What else could she give them they didn't have in the independent committee proposal? Should Republicans have majority power?

No, they should not have majority power over a committee they didn't want to begin with.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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They turned down an option they should have taken as I said. They could still negotiate. I'm not doing a Bengazi comparison... I didn't object then and I'm not objecting now. You asked a poll question and I gave you my honest answer.

This is not legit in my opinion as it is too one sided.
How does being one-sided make it not legit? Does it make evidence suddenly not evidence? Are facts no longer facts? Are criminal investigations everywhere not legit because they are 100% investigated by law enforcement instead of a 50/50 split of law enforcement and criminals? Your claim that it can't be legit relies on the premise that it is impossible for Democrats to be unbiased, and also that bias means more than facts and evidence.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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How does being one-sided make it not legit? Does it make evidence suddenly not evidence? Are facts no longer facts? Are criminal investigations everywhere not legit because they are 100% investigated by law enforcement instead of a 50/50 split of law enforcement and criminals? Your claim that it can't be legit relies on the premise that it is impossible for Democrats to be unbiased, and also that bias means more than facts and evidence.

Oh, it's just his opinion. He knows it's a fuckin stupid opinion and completely rooted in his bias, he just doesnt GAF
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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No, they should not have majority power over a committee they didn't want to begin with.
That's my point geekster doesn't want to admit the committee is not legitimate IHO because Republicans made it that way by rejecting the power sharing agreement.

This committee is legitimate because Republicans gave Democrats no choice other then to have a SELECT committee.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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That's my point geekster doesn't want to admit the committee is not legitimate IHO because Republicans made it that way by rejecting the power sharing agreement.

This committee is legitimate because Republicans gave Democrats no choice other then to have a SELECT committee.

It was legit either way, and legal either way.

Pelosi making them eat their bullshit is a perfect play. They were given the opportunity, and picked the 3 shitiest insurrection enabling reps to be on it. Pelosi fully anticipated the douchebags to play it like that, but made the effort anyways.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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This is fantastic logic: it’s not legitimate if republicans aren’t on the committee so if the republicans refuse to be on the committee, we’ll then it’s not legitimate.

Sounds like the Republican plan to obstruct any accountability into the failed insurrection has worked perfectly, nice job pcgeek, way to be a complete tool of the the GOP.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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They turned down an option they should have taken as I said. They could still negotiate. I'm not doing a Bengazi comparison... I didn't object then and I'm not objecting now. You asked a poll question and I gave you my honest answer.

This is not legit in my opinion as it is too one sided.
She turned down two guys that happens to be material witnesses in the subject inestigation. McCarthy then decided to pull everyone.
There is only one legitimate vector here and it’s anything but GQP.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Where we differ is that I don't see this as a "credible threat to democracy". As I've said here several times, my scout troop could have planed and executed a better operation. This was clown collage warfare, stupid people reacting without thinking. They had no firepower, they had no defined plan, they had no exit strategy, they had a vague goal that was never achievable. They not only didn't hide their faces, they took selfies and posted them on the web.
That's why the majority of them are being charged with petty crimes, because what they did was a petty crime.
This is exactly how the Bier Hall Putsch was described.

While they may have failed it is still a fact that large numbers of supporters of the then president breached the legislature for the purpose of capturing and/or executing elected officials for the purpose of seizing power. In the 6 months between that event and today the Republican Party has gone from wholesale condemnation to now tacit approval.

The country needs to be warned because Republicans will try to seize power again.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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This is exactly how the Bier Hall Putsch was described.

While they may have failed it is still a fact that large numbers of supporters of the then president breached the legislature for the purpose of capturing and/or executing elected officials for the purpose of seizing power. In the 6 months between that event and today the Republican Party has gone from wholesale condemnation to now tacit approval.

The country needs to be warned because Republicans will try to seize power again.
But Hitler wasn't serious that time, so no big deal.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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No, that is not what I said or meant in the least. Thanks for your input anyway.
LOL

WTF triggered you? What a joke.
It is not what you think you said because of your bias, pointed out to you in this thread over and over again, but it is exactly what your words imply if what you are saying were true.

Likewise, it is your bias that blinds you to the rage most liberals express toward you for the reasons without anger expressed in post #98. Our country is in danger and for the very reason of the biased blindness you cling to here.

The Republican Party can’t practice fairness and reason because any who express it will be primaries out. They are all in the grip of the insanity of Donald Trump. They have to deny their party was instrumental in an attack on democracy and can brook no investigation into that.

Essentially then what you are doing is taking the side of traitors to the United States. Any wonder then, why you are biased and why that bias evokes rage in those who can see this?

I can understand that as a self imagined patriot and lover of country you do not want to see the danger to the country your widespread and shared party insanity has put us in, but here we are.

You are asleep in a burning nation and people are screaming at you to wake up while you pull the pillow guy’s pillow over your ears with the notion that disturbing your sleep is simple the Democrats being vindictive. You wonder why you have a thing about ‘woke culture’.

All of this is the result of a need to feel pride in belief in things other, party team religion, when the only thing wrong with you is a deeply implanted and completely incorrect belief that without such loyalty you would be a nobody. But you were once a bouncing bundle of being joy who had no partisan beliefs, no loyalties to isms and ideas and that free soul is still at the root of your being.

That is who you really are. Just wanted you to know in case something rattles your faith.
 
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