Poll: Was the Republican attempt to gerrymander blacks in Alabama into 1 district racist?

[sandorski]

If it wasn't Racist, it certainly was still meant to thwart an actual representation of the People. Which should be considered just as bad or worse.

 

[brycejones]

Eek the usual suspects are as quiet as a tomb in India.

 

[BoomerD]

Keepin y'all in one district makes it easier to apply the 3/5 rule to y'all's votes...Get y'all mixed in with the genrul population...it gets MUCH harder to dilute alla y'all's voting power.

 

[Zorba]

Yes for overt. However in the case of systemic racism even if not directly intended racist outcome is built in. Example treatment of blacks by the medical community. Studies have shown for numerous reasons we get desperate treatment. Criminal justice blacks are assumed guilty even if the facts suggest otherwise.

A black man with a criminal record has an equal chance of landing a job vs a white male felon. These are outcomes baked into the system.

I completely agree that at a minimum it is systemic racism. And in reality I think it was probably overt racism too. But these people would gerrymander out anyone that votes against them. In OKC, they split the metro up so educated white people couldn't elected a Democrat.

 

[Roger Wilco]

They did it again.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673325673560129538

 

[zinfamous]

Non-partisan is the operative term. I don't believe such a thing exists. Politically, non partisan means a compromise that no one is happy with.

It's like you're almost starting to understand what compromise means, but just not willing to accept it because....I dunno, brainworrms?

meaning, your side's understanding of "not at all happy with anything" is that you don't get 100% of what you want. This is today's GOP: compromise only exists when we get everything. Flat out. Nothing more. Like "liberal," like "woke," you just invent new definitions for established words after they suddenly become inconvenient for your roundly unpopular policies. Now, "compromise" no longer means what it clearly means to the brain-wormed GQP.

remember when you cucks were presented with the conservative-drafted healthcare policy that became the ACA? You dudes lost your fucking shit at the prospect of accepting your very own policy proposal...simply because it came from a democrat black man. There's really no other explanation for it. It's the only variable in that equation, so you're going to have to do some more magical thinking to explain that one away.

 

[HomerJS]

They did it again.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673325673560129538

That's at least 3 states where Republicans were busted by courts practicing systemic if not outright overt racism. Louisiana, Alabama and North Carolina. Yet right wingers claim America is not racist.

 

[pmv]

It's a complicated business, though, gerrymandering. At the risk of explaining things everyone already knows (I'm just thinking aloud), I understand there are two contradictory approaches - cracking and packing. So they could do it this way, or they could have broken the black population up across multiple districts to the point where they wouldn't have much voting power in any single one.

And drawing up districts involves multiple competing objectives, whether you are gerrymandering or not. Need to ensure many different demographic factors get fair representation, race and political allegiance being just two of them (albeit by far the most significant ones in the US). The more such demographic dividing lines there are, the more horribly complicated it becomes (imagine if you had to ensure fairness for, say, hispanic-blacks and non-hispanic blacks, and maybe further divide those groups by social class, in a situation where those factors affected political alignment...it would quickly become insanely complicated).

Maybe the whole thing could be done differently, on a proportional, whole-state level?

 

[Pens1566]

So, at least 2 more seats will swing back to the D column in '24.

 

[zinfamous]

So, at least 2 more seats will swing back to the D column in '24.

don't forget whenever (if) Devolder gets sent to FPMITA prison.

 

[brycejones]

That's at least 3 states where Republicans were busted by courts practicing systemic if not outright overt racism. Louisiana, Alabama and North Carolina. Yet right wingers claim America is not racist.

Good news we don't need preclearance anymore.

 

[sportage]

Seems to me that ever since Thomas, Roberts and Alito were caught with their pants down, accepting gifts and acting like some elite members only club, they realize the gig is up and they know it. The good times are coming to an end. Now.... people really do care and people are paying attention to what these three lunkheads are up to. So. the three now appear to be acting like justices should act, impartial and ruling from the facts. Not the game of right wing hack jobs. But I could be wrong, it could be a trick to throw people off the track.

 

[dainthomas]

Seems to me that ever since Thomas, Roberts and Alito were caught with their pants down, accepting gifts and acting like some elite members only club, they realize the gig is up and they know it. The good times are coming to an end. Now.... people really do care and people are paying attention to what these three lunkheads are up to. So. the three now appear to be acting like justices should act, impartial and ruling from the facts. Not the game of right wing hack jobs. But I could be wrong, it could be a trick to throw people off the track.

I've for sure gotten the impression that they're trying to "lay low" ideologically in the hope that maybe people will back off.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Maybe the whole thing could be done differently, on a proportional, whole-state level?

Yes, that would be the clear answer to gerrymandering but we will never get it because it would take power away from the two parties.

 

[HomerJS]

Yes, that would be the clear answer to gerrymandering but we will never get it because it would take power away from the two parties.

Dems tried to end political gerrymandering with HR-1 but guess who scuttled it?