[poll] who is right in this argument, me or wife?

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Jaskalas

Lifer
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so we were cleaning up some cabinets and found like 15 canned foods that had gone anywhere from 1 to 2 years past their expiration dates. wife asked me to put them in a box and place them out next to the trash in case any one wants them. weird, never heard of that. she said she saw some show and people do it all the time. instead i ended up tossing them in the garbage as i could not in good conscience allow anyone to eat anything i wouldn't eat myself. she was upset that i threw them away. was i right or was i right?

Maybe they are starving and can decide for themselves if the food is spoiled? :hmm:
 

monkeydelmagico

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So all you folks saying don't chuck it whatcha gonna do with it? Go down to skid row and heave it out the window? The food pantries around here won't take expired foods.
 

rudeguy

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So all you folks saying don't chuck it whatcha gonna do with it? Go down to skid row and heave it out the window? The food pantries around here won't take expired foods.

we are just defaulting that Sandy is wrong. Its a very safe bet.
 

madoka

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Gather round...

1. Cans are set out as wife instructed
2. Enterprising person (homeless or not), finds cans clearly set out to be found and taken.
3. Enterprising person collects cans, then claims they made him/her deathly ill.
4. Enterprising person finds an attorney hungry to make a name for themselves and a few bucks.
5. Attorney files suit against Mr. & Mrs. SandEagle on behalf of client.

6. The Sandeagles claim that those cans did not belong to them. Lawyer realizes case is stupid and drops it.

However, in the real world, no one would ever take the case.

How are you going to prove that the cans were theirs? How are you going to prove that the guy didn't fish the cans out of the trash? How are you going to prove that the food in the cans made the guy sick? How are you going to prove that the guy didn't contaminate the food while cooking it? You can't. The experts you'd have to hire to even think about this case would make it a financial disaster for the lawyer and the insurance companies know it, which is why they won't settle. That's why no lawyer would ever sue.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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6. The Sandeagles claim that those cans did not belong to them. Lawyer realizes case is stupid and drops it.

However, in the real world, no one would ever take the case.

How are you going to prove that the cans were theirs? How are you going to prove that the guy didn't fish the cans out of the trash? How are you going to prove that the food in the cans made the guy sick? How are you going to prove that the guy didn't contaminate the food while cooking it? You can't. The experts you'd have to hire to even think about this case would make it a financial disaster for the lawyer and the insurance companies know it, which is why they won't settle. That's why no lawyer would ever sue.

You don't read the news much do you? You are confusing lawyers and the real world. They can, have and, will sue for anything you can think of.
 

madoka

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You don't read the news much do you? You are confusing lawyers and the real world. They can, have and, will sue for anything you can think of.

I've got a law degree and practiced for over a decade.

And your legal qualifications are?
 

madoka

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The truth hit too close to home? Maybe you could expound on the value of cases like the mickey d 's hot coffee litigation.

Dude, man up and just admit you were wrong. You're just proving your ignorance once again and it's embarrassing.

The McD's case was the result of people reading the headlines or a short blurb and not understanding what really happened in the case or what the damages were for:

https://www.ttla.com/index.cfm?pg=McDonaldsCoffeeCaseFacts

Again, NO one will sue over someone eating discarded cans left on the curb. I'd have better chances suing SE for trolling ATOT than for leaving his expired cans on the street. At least in that case I'd have plenty of witnesses.
 

Megatomic

Lifer
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Content of your post is irrelevant. The wife is right.
Haha, funny stuff. :biggrin: But I did vote for you SandEagle, I'm a stickler for the dates on food packaging. Milk can go a week past as long as it smells like milk, but otherwise it's gone.

I'll clarify: we buy next to nothing canned anways. What we do buy typically gets consumed pretty quickly. Any "fresh" products with dates on them are discarded if they exceed the date by more than a few days.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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Dude, man up and just admit you were wrong. You're just proving your ignorance once again and it's embarrassing.

The McD's case was the result of people reading the headlines or a short blurb and not understanding what really happened in the case or what the damages were for:

https://www.ttla.com/index.cfm?pg=McDonaldsCoffeeCaseFacts

Again, NO one will sue over someone eating discarded cans left on the curb. I'd have better chances suing SE for trolling ATOT than for leaving his expired cans on the street. At least in that case I'd have plenty of witnesses.

Thank you for proving my point. Lawyers will sue for anything if the litigants pockets are deep enough because common sense, morality and, the intent of the law are merely obstacles to overcome on the way to personal wealth. You may be different. I believe there are some lawyers with integrity but you've done nothing to show you're one.
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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Thank you for proving my point. Lawyers will sue for anything if the litigants pockets are deep enough because common sense, morality and, the intent of the law are merely obstacles to overcome on the way to personal wealth. You may be different. I believe there are some lawyers with integrity but you've done nothing to show you're one.

You don't seem to be able to make a coherent argument and you keep moving the goal posts, so I'll stop now.

For everyone else, there's no way you'd get sued for leaving expired cans out on the street. If you could, you'd bet that there'd be dozens of dumpster diving cases already brought against restaurants and supermarkets. The legal system doesn't work that way.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Feb 16, 2003
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Debating this is pointless. The idea is to push the decision off to others who can also see the expiry date and make a decision for themselves. So I side with the wife - obviously for different reasons, but it's not a discussion worth going back and forth on.
 

MotionMan

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You don't seem to be able to make a coherent argument and you keep moving the goal posts, so I'll stop now.

For everyone else, there's no way you'd get sued for leaving expired cans out on the street. If you could, you'd bet that there'd be dozens of dumpster diving cases already brought against restaurants and supermarkets. The legal system doesn't work that way.

I also am a lawyer and I can tell you that, though you can sue someone for anything, suing for this would not be successful.

MotionMan, Esq.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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You don't seem to be able to make a coherent argument and you keep moving the goal posts, so I'll stop now.

For everyone else, there's no way you'd get sued for leaving expired cans out on the street. If you could, you'd bet that there'd be dozens of dumpster diving cases already brought against restaurants and supermarkets. The legal system doesn't work that way.

The thread was never about the legality of putting food out by the trash. The only connectionnwas an off hand comment meant to be amusing. The thread is about the wholesomeness of the food and who was right or, in this case, who was more right. You stepped in with your legal perspective but, didn't limit it to yourself and included the entire legal profession. I mentioned the McD 's case and you thought I didn't understand the facts.
That about right?

The facts are a lady did a stupid thing with a cup of coffee and a group of lawyers convinced the jury that McD 's had partial responsibility to the tune of several million in compensatory and punitive damages for not warning the lady of possible dire consequences of doing a stupid thing with said coffee.
That about right?

Two things. Does anyone except the lawyers think that's a reasonable award? Does anyone think this case would have been persued if, she 'd got the coffee at a mom and pop?
 
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