Poll: Who's version of the IG report do you believe? The report investigating the origins of the Russia probe.

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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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They're trying to contract it out to he Ukrainians. Oh, and Durham commenting publicly about an ongoing investigation is highly unprofessional. His partisan petticoats are showing. Expect his investigation to go on as long as possible & deliver nothing.
I hate saying this, but the fact that he commented without completing his investigation should be.....wait for it.....investigated by the DOJ IG.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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I hate saying this, but the fact that he commented without completing his investigation should be.....wait for it.....investigated by the DOJ IG.
Also, hopefully at that point, Trump's financial empire will be exposed for either being not nearly as big as he likes everyone to believe and or that he's a tax cheat (par for the course for billionaires) and or a money launderer.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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The log awaited investigation of the investigation by IG Horowitz is completed and found there was proper cause to launch the investigation and no political bias was involved.

No evidence Obama "spied" on Trump or did anything improper related to Trump.

Bill Barr came out right behind it and stated his complete disagreement with the results. The Head of the FBI agreed with the IG report and will take action to shore up any shortcoming by the FBI.

My question, who do you believe? Show your work/reasons

I believe Horowitz’s report and the general conclusion that career FBI personnel did not act with malice or political intent, despite there being a few procedural errors and one fairly large error in judgment. His report puts to bed the FBI deep state conspirarcy theories.

The Barr sanctioned investigation is broader in scope and is casting a wider net. He has a higher barrier of trust to overcome, and I would not accept anything less than a smoking gun revelation. I don’t expect his investigation to uncover anything new, but can’t assess something that is still in motion.
 
Nov 29, 2006
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2 100% factually proven liars, vs 1 unproven/known liar. Imma place my money on Horowitz as we already have established precedent on the other 2.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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37 votes in and not a single ballot from one of our conservatives... I guess that says it all .
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Durham weighing in after the IG report says to me that he has something on somebody. He has way more scope and power than the IG. I'm very curious what his investigation turns up and how it will compare to the IG report. The IG doesn't indict people, but Durham can and most likely will, if he has something that rises to the level of criminal wrong doing. If, if, if, obviously.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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That's not the issue. Its inappropriate vs downright corrupt yet the right were ready to have Lynch impeached.
That such a meeting happened at all is an indicator of corruption in and of itself. It also has nothing to do with the charges Trump now faces, but you brought Lynch into the discussion.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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on vu
Durham weighing in after the IG report says to me that he has something on somebody. He has way more scope and power than the IG. I'm very curious what his investigation turns up and how it will compare to the IG report. The IG doesn't indict people, but Durham can and most likely will, if he has something that rises to the level of criminal wrong doing. If, if, if, obviously.

Lol, don’t worry you will get them next time! Do you ever stop to consider why you are never right?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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That such a meeting happened at all is an indicator of corruption in and of itself. It also has nothing to do with the charges Trump now faces, but you brought Lynch into the discussion.
So you would be willing to impeach Lynch on the suspicion of corruption yet Trump's corruption in the open is just a ho hum?

The different standards of behavior are glaringly obvious
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Barr gave NBC an interview where he essentially throws the IG report in the trash and claims that his probe will be the real deal. This is the same guy who was personally chasing down bogus leads in Italy to prove out Trump's insane ramblings and various right wing fever dreams.

It's full of Trump's conspiratorial lies and general horseshit.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...th-probing-trump-n1098986?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

If Conservatives really want to turn the DOJ into a fully partisan vehicle maybe they should think down the road another cycle or two because they won't be in power forever. Clearly that's too much to ask.

Barr is a damned fine liar & a disgrace to his office. Any presidential candidate who puts Flynn, Manafort & Page in their campaign should expect the counterintelligence guys to come sniffing around. They'd be derelict in their duty if they didn't. Add the startling revelation of a massive covert Russian propaganda campaign in support of Trump to round out the picture. And the Trump Tower meeting. And the hacking of Podesta & the DNC. I mean, why would anybody want to look at any of it? Perfectly normal, right?
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I believe Horowitz’s report and the general conclusion that career FBI personnel did not act with malice or political intent, despite there being a few procedural errors and one fairly large error in judgment. His report puts to bed the FBI deep state conspirarcy theories.

The Barr sanctioned investigation is broader in scope and is casting a wider net. He has a higher barrier of trust to overcome, and I would not accept anything less than a smoking gun revelation. I don’t expect his investigation to uncover anything new, but can’t assess something that is still in motion.

What was that large error in judgement, anyway?
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I believe Horowitz’s report and the general conclusion that career FBI personnel did not act with malice or political intent, despite there being a few procedural errors and one fairly large error in judgment. His report puts to bed the FBI deep state conspirarcy theories.

The Barr sanctioned investigation is broader in scope and is casting a wider net. He has a higher barrier of trust to overcome, and I would not accept anything less than a smoking gun revelation. I don’t expect his investigation to uncover anything new, but can’t assess something that is still in motion.
A “higher barrier of trust to overcome?” Ya think??
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Durham weighing in after the IG report says to me that he has something on somebody. He has way more scope and power than the IG. I'm very curious what his investigation turns up and how it will compare to the IG report. The IG doesn't indict people, but Durham can and most likely will, if he has something that rises to the level of criminal wrong doing. If, if, if, obviously.

When Horowitz wouldn't play along with Barr then Durham stepped up in order to maintain the controversy & the underlying conspiracy theory of illegal politically motivated spying. He might be able to stretch it out past the election. His only contribution was to affirm Barr's doubts. He didn't say shit & likely never will.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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So you would be willing to impeach Lynch on the suspicion of corruption yet Trump's corruption in the open is just a ho hum?

The different standards of behavior are glaringly obvious
I’ve said Trump should be impeached on numerous occasions.

Impeachment isn’t a comparative scale. It’s a threshold. Once you’ve passed it...

You’re the one defending Lynch.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Durham weighing in after the IG report says to me that he has something on somebody. He has way more scope and power than the IG. I'm very curious what his investigation turns up and how it will compare to the IG report. The IG doesn't indict people, but Durham can and most likely will, if he has something that rises to the level of criminal wrong doing. If, if, if, obviously.

I'm sure the NEXT investigation will get 'em!

At what point do you just admit you were wrong?
 
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GoPackGo

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 2003
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Durham weighing in after the IG report says to me that he has something on somebody. He has way more scope and power than the IG. I'm very curious what his investigation turns up and how it will compare to the IG report. The IG doesn't indict people, but Durham can and most likely will, if he has something that rises to the level of criminal wrong doing. If, if, if, obviously.

Ethically he shouldn't have said anything.

And I don't care what side of the aisle you sit... you commit a crime, you should pay for it.

Trumps charity fraud should be be enough for him to be removed from office.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I’ve said Trump should be impeached on numerous occasions.

Impeachment isn’t a comparative scale. It’s a threshold. Once you’ve passed it...

You’re the one defending Lynch.
Comparing is not defending. Big difference going 5 mph over the speed limit vs 40 over. That's why enforcement and punishment are different as well.
 
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