If you’re driving off a cliff, does speed limit compliance really matter?
If you’re driving off a cliff, does speed limit compliance really matter?Comparing is not defending. Big difference going 5 mph over the speed limit vs 40 over. That's why enforcement and punishment are different as well.
No but that is what we are doing now. LL allowing Bill on her plane was the 5 mph over. I blame Bill more putting her in the position of "you can't come on the plane". However if LL was committing an impeachable offense she could have called him on the phone.If you’re driving off a cliff, does speed limit compliance really matter?
Not sure why you even brought LL into the conversation as a frame of reference. In perspective, there is a vast order of magnitude difference between LL/Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.No but that is what we are doing now. LL allowing Bill on her plane was the 5 mph over. I blame Bill more putting her in the position of "you can't come on the plane". However if LL was committing an impeachable offense she could have called him on the phone.
I brought her in to show how the standards of behavior have been flipped on their axis since DJT. These people knoew who they are that have adopted the new Trump standards. Barr is committing corruption in the open yet they were ready to impeach Lynch over something simply inappropriate. That was my only pointNot sure why you even brought LL into the conversation as a frame of reference. In perspective, there is a vast order of magnitude difference between LL/Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.
Amazing this one is taking forever but they have managed to put out like 9 reports related to how Trump was investigated in the same amount of time.Seems this tidbit came out in the Oranges of the Russia Investigation, but got buried in all of the noise. They are still investigating whether Guiliani had "friends" in the SDNY office that leaked FBI investigations of Hillary. Apparently, SDNY was Trump land.
DOJ IG: Probe into anti-Clinton FBI leaks “continues to this day"
Horowitz testified to the Senate that he is still investigating alleged anti-Clinton FBI leaks to Rudy Giuliani days before the election.www.salon.com
Well we got 52 now and it seems one of them buys into the bullshit.37 votes in and not a single ballot from one of our conservatives... I guess that says it all .
Well we got 52 now and it seems one of them buys into the bullshit.
I do wonder who it is. We have one poster in this thread that seems to indicate his leaning towards the Barr/pure bullshit version. But it might not be them.
Its highland145, mostly a OTD inhabitant .. havent seen anything crazy from him. You know. Like, some of the crazy we *do* see.Well we got 52 now and it seems one of them buys into the bullshit.
I do wonder who it is. We have one poster in this thread that seems to indicate his leaning towards the Barr/pure bullshit version. But it might not be them.
Oh, ha, I didn't even realize the votes part was clickable.It's a public poll, just click the 1 by the result and you'll see it was @highland145 that voted Barr & Trump.
Because IG Horowitz has a very limited scope that he can investigate.The log awaited investigation of the investigation by IG Horowitz is completed and found there was proper cause to launch the investigation and no political bias was involved.
No evidence Obama "spied" on Trump or did anything improper related to Trump.
Bill Barr came out right behind it and stated his complete disagreement with the results. The Head of the FBI agreed with the IG report and will take action to shore up any shortcoming by the FBI.
My question, who do you believe? Show your work/reasons
Here are the biggest takeaways from the DOJ watchdog's highly anticipated report on the Russia probe's origins
Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on the origins of the Russia probe debunked many of President Trump's claims but found some wrongdoing.www.businessinsider.com
Seems this tidbit came out in the Oranges of the Russia Investigation, but got buried in all of the noise. They are still investigating whether Guiliani had "friends" in the SDNY office that leaked FBI investigations of Hillary. Apparently, SDNY was Trump land.
DOJ IG: Probe into anti-Clinton FBI leaks “continues to this day"
Horowitz testified to the Senate that he is still investigating alleged anti-Clinton FBI leaks to Rudy Giuliani days before the election.www.salon.com
Because IG Horowitz has a very limited scope that he can investigate.
DOJ Inspector General Tells Congress His Report Does Not 'Vindicate Anybody'
Both Democrats and Republicans argue Michael Horowitz's findings bolster their own arguments about the Justice Department's Russia investigation. Horowitz pushed back in a Senate Judiciary hearing.www.npr.org
But, Horowitz told the panel, "Our review identified significant concerns with how certain aspects of the investigation were conducted and supervised."
He said the FBI failed to adhere "to its own standards of accuracy and completeness" when it filed applications under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act regarding former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
"The activities we found here don't vindicate anybody," he said in response to a question about whether former FBI Director James Comey should feel vindicated about how the bureau handled the investigation, dubbed "Crossfire Hurricane."
The 400-plus page report, released Monday, found that the FBI had ample evidence to open its investigation — despite allegations of political bias.
The report found that the bureau's decision to open an investigation "was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced" the decision.
What it does is condemn Trump and all his fucking conspiracy theories. You know, the ones you believed. It also condones the need for the Russian investigation from the beginning. Did you miss that?Because IG Horowitz has a very limited scope that he can investigate.
DOJ Inspector General Tells Congress His Report Does Not 'Vindicate Anybody'
Both Democrats and Republicans argue Michael Horowitz's findings bolster their own arguments about the Justice Department's Russia investigation. Horowitz pushed back in a Senate Judiciary hearing.www.npr.org
But, Horowitz told the panel, "Our review identified significant concerns with how certain aspects of the investigation were conducted and supervised."
He said the FBI failed to adhere "to its own standards of accuracy and completeness" when it filed applications under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act regarding former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
"The activities we found here don't vindicate anybody," he said in response to a question about whether former FBI Director James Comey should feel vindicated about how the bureau handled the investigation, dubbed "Crossfire Hurricane."
Uh oh, take it with a grain of salt, but counterintelligence experts are saying that Barr’s last-minute declassification of Steele details amounted to a “roadmap” of sources and methods for Russian spooks.
All roads lead to Putin.
Watchdog report a 'roadmap' for Russian spooks, intel vets say
Counterintelligence experts say the declassification of sources and methods in a recent inspector general's report is a gift to hostile powers.www.politico.com
“The chief issue with the newly declassified information, national security experts and former officials say, is that it offers identifying details about sources—specifically, how the report describes Steele’s sources, who ostensibly provided the bulk of the information Steele included in a dossier of Trump’s alleged Russia ties, and how the FBI vetted them.”
“I would LOVE a roadmap like this from the Russians or Chinese,” said one former intelligence official, referring to the report’s extensive description of how the Crossfire Hurricane team—named after the codeword given to the FBI’s Russia probe—determined the authenticity of certain intelligence.
The report includes FBI interview notes summarizing conversations with sources, revealing identifying details—one sub-source was described as being the subject of a YouTube video and several press reports, for example, while another was said to have “direct access to a particular former senior Russian government official”—and a description from another intelligence service of one of its former employees.
They will destroy our intelligence resources if need be to protect Trump. After all, he's the second coming.God that's horrifying. No one else has been able to suggest a plausible reason that I've seen for his last minute changes. Intentionally giving away intelligence sources and methods is seriously heinous.
I felt sorry for the lopsided pole.Hey @highland145, care to inform us why you believe Barr and Trump vs the IG??
We would like to know
They will destroy our intelligence resources if need be to protect Trump. After all, he's the second coming.
H said he found no evidence of political bias but he also found no evidence that there was no bias.
The mirror works wonders.I brought her in to show how the standards of behavior have been flipped on their axis since DJT. These people knoew who they are that have adopted the new Trump standards. Barr is committing corruption in the open yet they were ready to impeach Lynch over something simply inappropriate. That was my only point
H also didn't find any biases effected the ability of people to do their job fairly. FBI members sent text messages hating Hillary yet those people weren't hung out on a pole like Strozk and Page.H said he found no evidence of political bias but he also found no evidence that there was no bias.