Poll: Will Biden Help or Hurt Barack Obama?

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I came to vote in the poll.
I figure a man like Biden who has a Doctorate will be a far better help to Obama than a Ryan who only has a bachelors in economics. Ryan will have his head handed to him by the Paul Krugmans of the world who are actual economists.
 

Moonbeam

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Extremely stupid people like to think everybody else knows only what they know. This is so universally true, though only to people who can think, that is has been classed as one of many logical fallacies.
 

cybrsage

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I came to vote in the poll.
I figure a man like Biden who has a Doctorate will be a far better help to Obama than a Ryan who only has a bachelors in economics. Ryan will have his head handed to him by the Paul Krugmans of the world who are actual economists.

I came to vote in the poll too...but his post was funny.

You have heard the phrase "pulling a Biden" before, right? It is another way of saying "putting your foot into your mouth". He does it quite often and in quite fantastic ways. I honestly think that is why Obama picked Biden...it makes Obama look VERY well spoken and intelligent in comparison.
 

Moonbeam

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I came to vote in the poll too...but his post was funny.

You have heard the phrase "pulling a Biden" before, right? It is another way of saying "putting your foot into your mouth". He does it quite often and in quite fantastic ways. I honestly think that is why Obama picked Biden...it makes Obama look VERY well spoken and intelligent in comparison.

I think that if your thinking here is accurate it would make Obama a puss sack because that's what I think that kind of thinking would imply about a person's character. Since I do not believe Obama has such a cunningly cynical moral character as that, I can only infer that you must be projecting. Since I believe your opinion to be totally absurd and yet you hold it, I have to conclude it came from somewhere other than reality.

PS: There isn't really anything funny about the original post that I can see. The only joke VP I can think of lost in the last election. Naturally, one of the scummy things partisans do to win elections is to denigrate the opposition, to make people of great accomplishment seem insignificant, when the folk who specialize in this kind of put down are fleas in comparison.
 
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monovillage

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I came to vote in the poll.
I figure a man like Biden who has a Doctorate will be a far better help to Obama than a Ryan who only has a bachelors in economics. Ryan will have his head handed to him by the Paul Krugmans of the world who are actual economists.

Academically, Biden was undistinguished,[10] but he was a natural leader among the students.[16] He graduated in 1961.[13]

Biden attended the University of Delaware in Newark, where he was more interested in sports and socializing than in studying,[10] although his classmates were impressed by his cramming abilities.[15] He played halfback with the Blue Hens freshman football team,[14] but he dropped a junior year plan to play for the varsity team as a defensive back, enabling him to spend more time with his out-of-state girlfriend.[14][17] He double majored in history and political science and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in 1965,[1] ranking 506th of 688 in his class.[18]

He went on to receive his Juris Doctor from Syracuse University's College of Law in 1968,[19] where by his own description he found it to be "the biggest bore in the world" and pulled many all-nighters to get by.[15][20] During his first year there, he was accused of having plagiarized 5 of 15 pages of a law review article. Biden said it was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and he was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F, which was subsequently dropped from his record.[20] He was admitted to the Delaware Bar in 1969.[19]

Biden received five student draft deferments during this period, with the first coming in late 1963 and the last in early 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam War.[21] In April 1968, he was reclassified by the Selective Service System as not available for service due to having had asthma as a teenager.[21][22] Biden was not a part of the anti-Vietnam War movement; he would later say that at the time he was preoccupied with marriage and law school, and that he "wore sports coats ... not tie-dyed".[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#Early_life_and_education
 

blankslate

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It's more likely that President Obama chose VP Biden because he knew intricately how the Senate and congress as a whole worked and needed that experience on his side so much that even an, at times, unfortunate glibness could be overlooked.


Ordinarily it would be sound reasoning.

Unfortunately Mitch McConnell and friends decided to reconfigure their party into the

G.rand
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cybrsage

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Yet despite being a playboy jock in college he manage to smoke the pants off of Sarah Palin in debates WHILE figuratively chewing on his left foot (his favorite hobby).

I think that qualifies him to be VP.

I bet he did want to have Palin's pants come off.
 

cybrsage

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It's more likely that President Obama chose VP Biden because he knew intricately how the Senate and congress as a whole worked and needed that experience on his side so much that even an, at times, unfortunate glibness could be overlooked.


Ordinarily it would be sound reasoning.

Unfortunately Mitch McConnell and friends decided to reconfigure their party into the

G.rand
O.obstructionist
P. arty



You do realize the dems are some of the most egrgious users of the filibuster, right? The GOP has just recently started to use it, and dems are just upset they are better at it. I posted a chart about it in another thread and if you are interested in seeing it, I can dig it up. If not, then I won't bother to go through the hassle.
 

Thump553

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Actually Biden is doing a tremendous job in the traditional role as VP, which is to deliver the red meat campaign speeches to rally the party faithful. The VP is supposed to be the attack dog while the President remains above the fray, being presidential. If you've ever listened to any of Biden's speeches this year, he's doing a great job of defining Willard and pushing the President's accomplishments and explaining ACA and tax policy.

Biden has also done a decent job as an active VP. It's too bad Obama didn't take his advice on what to do in Afganistan but at least his viewpoint was seriously considered.

Personally I'd classify Biden as substantially exceeding my expectations.
 

cybrsage

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I think he was taken over by a pod person. He did not make a serious gaffe at all that entire time.
 
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