POLL: Will you get the Nexus 7 $0/$199/$249 version

[QueBert]

I think the lack of a microSD slot and the $249 16GB version were probably concessions to Asus for making the zero-margin 8GB version. But the lack of expandable storage also plays heavily into Google's idea that you should depend on their cloud for everything. Google Drive (store 5GB free), Google Music (store 20,000 songs free), Google Docs, GMail, etc.

You can't install apps to your cloud though, I just bought a game that takes up around 700 megs, if I installed every game/app I've bought it would take about 22 gigs. It's retarded that Google sells a product that's not capable of storing even half of the shit I've bought that's made for it. And the games keep getting bigger and bigger. I won't even get into how even get into how to use the cloud I'd need wifi, which I don't have most places I go.

People would spend money on a 64gb version, but at least they could have put out a 32gb one.

 

[WelshBloke]

... Google/Asus are making zero money on the $199 version (especially considering the Google Play $25 credit). The $199 version is a land grab in the tablet space by Google, pure and simple. The Kindle Fire made waves because of its price, but it bypassed the Google Play Store; the Nexus 7 fixes that...

I doubt Asus are making nothing on this. Their profit margin will be included in the price they charge Google.

 

[zerocool84]

You can't install apps to your cloud though, I just bought a game that takes up around 700 megs, if I installed every game/app I've bought it would take about 22 gigs. It's retarded that Google sells a product that's not capable of storing even half of the shit I've bought that's made for it. And the games keep getting bigger and bigger. I won't even get into how even get into how to use the cloud I'd need wifi, which I don't have most places I go.

People would spend money on a 64gb version, but at least they could have put out a 32gb one.

It's just supposed to be a low cost tablet.

 

[vshah]

It does suck but cutbacks definitely had to be made for the price.

Can always by a q if you want HDMI! :awe:

 

[Eug]

You can't install apps to your cloud though, I just bought a game that takes up around 700 megs, if I installed every game/app I've bought it would take about 22 gigs. It's retarded that Google sells a product that's not capable of storing even half of the shit I've bought that's made for it. And the games keep getting bigger and bigger. I won't even get into how even get into how to use the cloud I'd need wifi, which I don't have most places I go.

People would spend money on a 64gb version, but at least they could have put out a 32gb one.

Here's hoping Asus will put out a 16-32 GB 7" model of the Transformer Pad TF300, with IPS screen, Tegra 3, micro-SDXC, and micro-HDMI, for $249-$299. I don't really care about the keyboard part of the Transformer family though. It just needs to be well under 400 grams, preferably closer to 350 grams. (The Nexus 7 is 340 g.)

 

[Red Storm]

Well MHL not working killed my hopes for using it as an HTPC, but I'll still be getting one for the family.

 

[Eug]

The last bit of info we need now is whether or not it supports USB OTG.

EDIT:

It does. In fact it was in Brian Klug's (p)review:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review

" I've had many emails and questions about whether USB-OTG (On The Go) is supported on the Nexus 7, and didn't touch on it when I originally hit publish becuause I wasn't entirely sure. I've now confirmed that USB-OTG is supported on the Nexus 7, and works on the current Android 4.1 non-final build that has been sampled. That's encouraging, and I'll test it myself when I get home and to my miniUSB OTG adapter."

And from the comments section of the preview:

Thank you for contacting Google. It was my pleasure assisting you today.

Though the Nexus 7 doesn’t include an SD card slot, we offer a 16 GB version if you’re looking for additional storage. Yes you can use an external storage through the microUSB.

If there is anything further we can assist you with, please feel free to reply directly to this email or visit our help center at http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.p...

Regards,

Jon
The Google Play Team

Hmmm... Mixed messages. From Brian's mini-review:

Update 2: I've asked for further clarification about what USB-OTG functionality is supported. Using a mouse and keyboard will be supported, and I saw Google using an ethernet to USB adapter over USB-OTG as well. Unfortunately I found out that mounting USB storage will not be supported natively. In addition MHL is not supported.

If true, this is a deal-breaker. I was pondering if I could tolerate using an external SD reader with USB OTG without 4+ GB file size support, but if I can't even mount the media or an external drive, then the decision not to buy is an easy one.

 

[AstroManLuca]

By "not be supported natively" do they just mean you will need a third party app? Someone earlier in this thread said that while Android does support USB OTG, you need an app to enable it because there isn't a setting built into the OS.

 

[ElFenix]

maybe a rom will support it


i want a tablet to take on vacation that i can pull the memory card from my camera and use the tablet to display photos and upload them to cloud services. that's a nice usage model for a tablet. but very few tablets actually support doing that right out of the box (even the ones that have easy access to the card slot use the wrong format). wtf.

i suppose there's the hope that if i can put the camera in something other than mass storage mode google will let me use their product in one of the most useful things it could do.

 

[Eug]

maybe a rom will support it

Not that I'm a developer, but I'm sure a ROM will eventually support it. Same goes for NTFS.

By "not be supported natively" do they just mean you will need a third party app?

Maybe if you root the thing.

Someone earlier in this thread said that while Android does support USB OTG, you need an app to enable it because there isn't a setting built into the OS.

I don't think that's right. Supposedly USB OTG on the Nexus 7 is supposed to work natively with stuff like keyboards and mice. In fact, that's what Brian suggested, if I'm reading his article correctly.

Using a mouse and keyboard will be supported, and I saw Google using an ethernet to USB adapter over USB-OTG as well. Unfortunately I found out that mounting USB storage will not be supported natively.

 

[Bryf50]

I still don't understand why they went with the phone interface as default. The huge empty bar with 3 buttons on it looks awkward. My 7" Galaxy Tab 2 has no problem with the tablet UI and that's only 1024x600.

 

[SAWYER]

what is otg?

 

[SickBeast]

No external media support = deal killer. No Nexus 7 for me.

This.

It's such a joke and such a rip off.

 

[zoiks]

The cloud will not help me when I'm in a plane!

That's why you have the 16gb on board. For the rest of the times when you're not on a plane, you can use external storage sources.
BTW, from what I can tell, you can still attach an external storage drive via the microusb input.

 

[AstroManLuca]

what is otg?

On the go

 

[zerocool84]

This.

It's such a joke and such a rip off.

Rip off? It's the best tablet for the price that's out there.

 

[ponyo]

Galaxy Nexus for some reason doesn't support USB OTG storage natively as well. I had to root and use the StickMount app. Not that I really care. I root all my devices. It does support MHL natively.

I still don't understand why they went with the phone interface as default. The huge empty bar with 3 buttons on it looks awkward. My 7" Galaxy Tab 2 has no problem with the tablet UI and that's only 1024x600.

I like phone interface on 7" tablet. My OG 7" Galaxy Tab is running Gingerbread phone interface and I like it alot. Then again my Galaxy Tab is also a phone.

 

[Eug]

BTW, from what I can tell, you can still attach an external storage drive via the microusb input.

You can't, according to the Google people Brian Klug spoke with. That's what the most recent discussion in this thread was about.

 

[Bateluer]

While I crave expandable storage and consider it an essential feature myself, and quite a few others in this thread agree with me. But, it is amusing to see those same people stating in iPad threads that the iPad lacking expandable storage is perfectly fine. Ooh-ray double standards.

 

[ponyo]

You can't, according to the Google people Brian Klug spoke with. That's what the most recent discussion in this thread was about.

You can, you will just have to root and use something like StickMount app. Given that very few people even know about OTG USB, it's not a big deal if you have to root to use it.

 

[Eug]

You can, you will just have to root and use something like StickMount app. Given that very few people even know about OTG USB, it's not a big deal if you have to root to use it.

Well, if you root it that's a whole different kettle of fish. The hassle increases exponentially the more you hack these devices.

I personally will just wait, to get a device that natively does not have these limitations.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Well, if you root it that's a whole different kettle of fish. The hassle increases exponentially the more you hack these devices.

I personally will just wait, to get a device that natively does not have these limitations.

What hassel. You mean the 30 seconds it takes to open up terminal and type in a few commands?

 

[Eug]

What hassel. You mean the 30 seconds it takes to open up terminal and type in a few commands?

Thanks for being the first off the mark, with the inevitable geek response.

 

[badb0y]

While I crave expandable storage and consider it an essential feature myself, and quite a few others in this thread agree with me. But, it is amusing to see those same people stating in iPad threads that the iPad lacking expandable storage is perfectly fine. Ooh-ray double standards.

There's a 32GB/64GB Nexus 7?

 

[cheezy321]

There's a 32GB/64GB Nexus 7?

Bate is on a personal crusade to attack and demean anyone who doesn't burn apple at the stake like he does. See every post he makes in this forum.