POLLO: Which dead rapper do you miss the most?

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Platypus

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JDilla, though I miss his skills as a producer/beat maker more than his rapping skills.

I have to respect anyone who takes his craft so seriously.
 

KeithTalent

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From that list Eazy E; I remember listening to Eazy-Duz-It on a loop back in junior high. I never understood the appeal of 2Pac or B.I.G., but maybe I'm just too old. :hmm:

KT
 

lxskllr

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You whiteys sure are scared of da black man's musak

Not really. Probably 80%+ of the music I listen to is black. The key word here is "music". Not samples ripped off of real artists, and electronic beats a monkey could program. The genre in general is tedious to to listen to. The rap style is ok for a couple tracks off an album, but any more than that is too much.
 

Dumac

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Not really. Probably 80%+ of the music I listen to is black. The key word here is "music". Not samples ripped off of real artists, and electronic beats a monkey could program. The genre in general is tedious to to listen to. The rap style is ok for a couple tracks off an album, but any more than that is too much.

Okay, you keep telling yourself that.

I'd like to see you make a rap album that didn't suck ass

And 80% of the music you listen to is black? What the hell do you listen to?
 

lxskllr

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Okay, you keep telling yourself that.

I'd like to see you make a rap album that didn't suck ass

And 80% of the music you listen to is black? What the hell do you listen to?

Jazz, blues, funk, old R&B....
 

Platypus

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Not really. Probably 80%+ of the music I listen to is black. The key word here is "music". Not samples ripped off of real artists, and electronic beats a monkey could program. The genre in general is tedious to to listen to. The rap style is ok for a couple tracks off an album, but any more than that is too much.

Much like most genres of music, the vast majority of what you hear on the radio is mass produced bullshit. There is an immense amount of skill involved with proper hip-hop and unfortunately only the uglier side of it gets any popularity. Think about labeling all rock music as tedious to listen to or something a monkey could program if the only shit you ever heard was linkin park or nickleback... it's literally the same comparison. It is not surprising that a lot of people share this sentiment though when you have music kicked out that is entirely produced via autotune and protools and takes relatively little talent to make. The problem is that the real shit never makes the airwaves and therefore public perception of it as an art form is largely based on only a very small part of it.

The truth is, and I'm not even really that big of a fan of the genre all things said, that real hip hop is much more than stealing someone's beats and putting minimal effort into it. It's about creating something out of other ideas (the same exact shit that every other musician does). Do you have any idea how much of rock music is the same goddamn riff over and over, just changed up slightly? It's HIGHLY derivitive but no one ever says anything about that. Fuck, almost all of Led Zeppelin's catalog is straight up stolen from other people. Creating beats and sampling single riffs off of vinyl and beat matching and combining different genres of music together can be absolutely beautiful and awesome, but again, it's not easy to hear that kind of stuff so I don't fault you.

I had an awesome conversation years and years ago with someone that really changed the way I think about music. My friend is SUPER into hip-hop, it's basically all he listened to, or so I thought. He has an entire basement full of old vinyl and he used to make beats and what not. He said that because of hip-hop, he became huge fans of jazz, motown, r&b, rock, classical, etc because he was exposed to it via hip-hop. That blew me away. I thought, "all I hear is people rapping about killing each other and how much money they have," until he showed me that there is far, far more going on that I didn't even know about. It really hit me then that it's the melting pot of music. It might be more up front about wearing its influences on its sleeves but that's what's so cool about it. Rock music does the same shit, blues does the same shit, it's just easier to pick out the influences in hip-hop for most people. The concept of taking someone's ideas and making them your own, combining two completely opposite genres of music, and then speaking your mind over it, I can't think of a cooler way to honor the music and ideas that came before you... and I don't even really listen to hip-hop. I just respect the talent immensely.

That same friend I mentioned can show me a song that I will say I love, then he'll pull out basically a crate of vinyl to trade me and vice versa. He's a casual fan of rock as I am a casual fan of hip-hop. He can't say why he likes a particular guitar riff or drum passage, but I instinctively know exactly what he might be into and I'll counter by giving him some records to listen to. I've built up a huge collection of stuff just based on this basic concept of idea sharing and collaboration over music. We've done stuff together recording wise where he'll send me some rough ideas and I'll add some guitar parts and sent it back, etc.


I didn't mean to single you out in that long winded diatribe, I just feel like most people falsely label rap/hip-hop as something that it really isn't. For your sake, ask someone who's really into the genre for some recommendations because you might be missing out on some really cool shit. Or maybe not, everyone is different
 

lxskllr

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I didn't mean to single you out in that long winded diatribe, I just feel like most people falsely label rap/hip-hop as something that it really isn't. For your sake, ask someone who's really into the genre for some recommendations because you might be missing out on some really cool shit. Or maybe not, everyone is different

I don't know, I guess I'd have to listen to more of it(if I could tolerate it that long :^P). As far as ripping stuff off goes. I have an album by Beautiful People that's entirely Jimi Hendrix samples, with a tiny bit of added instrumentation. I kind of like that album, but that may have more to do with Jimi, than what they did. In general, I don't like rock that's too derivative. That's hard to get away from, but some bands are worse than others. Lenny Kravitz can go to hell. He's like a 1970's juke box, and it drives me nuts hearing all the stolen riffs/licks he sprinkles his music with :^D
 

Legendary

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Bitches I like 'em brainless
Guns I like em stainless
Steel, I want the fuckin fortune like the wheel
 

mrjminer

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Crono

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Agreed with everything you said.

What I find funny is that the people who love rock and metal almost exclusively make comments about how rap is "noise" - it's funny because the same things were said about those genres by the older generations and by people who didn't even take the time to examine the range of the music itself.

I remember seeing a PBS series on jazz, and one of the big issues that people had with it initially is that it was said to be the lewd (which it often was, but not all of it) music of untalented, lower class people. Amazing how it's now considered to be a classic style of the 20th century, even by people who don't necessarily like it.

Even if you don't like rap or hip-hop as genres, you can't generalize. There are plenty of positive and talented artists out there.

If I wanted to be a douche, I could go around trolling every thread about rock saying how inferior it is to baroque and classical music, how it's just dissonant noise, and that it's all rock "musicians" are just drug addicts pushing sex and a self destructing lifestyle, and that rock lyrics are utter trash. I would then conveniently ignore every single rock star that doesn't quite fit the mold and just point to the mainstream of x number of years ago. To finish my trolling, I would say "the only good rock star is a dead one".

(I wouldn't, but that's because I appreciate rock as a genre like I do many other musical genres).
 
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Sho'Nuff

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Finally. Someone else who appreciates the oldies.

Poe was the original gangsta.

"Come! let the burial rite be read- the funeral song be sung!
An anthem for the queenliest dead that ever died so young-
A dirge for her the doubly dead in that she died so young."

Sounds like the 18th century way of sayin "Pour some likka on the curb fo you ded homiez."

"Up early in the morning, dressed in black
Don't ask why? 'Cause I'm down in a suit and tie
They killed a homie that I went to school with (Damn!)
I tell ya life ain't shit to fool with
I still hear the screams of his mother
While my awesome dude laid dead in the gutter (Shit!)
And it's getting to my temple
Why is that the only time black folks get to ride in a limo?
It makes me so mad I want to get my sawed-in
And have some bodies hauled in
But no, I pay my respects and I'm through (whaddup Cube?)
Hug my crew, and maybe shed a tear or two
And I wanna get blitz
Grab my 40 ounce and then I reminisce
About a brother who had to be the one and only
So I dedicate this to my dead homiez..."

-Cube
 
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Zebo

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Notorious B.I.G. by a huge margin. Lyrically he pwned Pac, Pac was basically a charming pretty boy IMO. Never had one urge to listen to him.
 

Zebo

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Where is Big L, Big Pun, MC Trouble, Buffy? I put them all above Pac as well.
 
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