Ponitac GTO info

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Is that a stick shift I see inside? I'm sure Pontiac will see fit to get rid of it.

6 speed manual is an option.

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Is that a stick shift I see inside? I'm sure Pontiac will see fit to get rid of it.

Please do some reading before you make comments.

 

[Renob]

Nice car, How much?

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: Renob
Nice car, How much?

Most are figuring $30-$35k

 

[StageLeft]

It will be a cold day in hell before I own a Pontiac (not like I could afford this anyway), but that car looks pretty darn nice I gotta say.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Cfour

Originally posted by: BDawg
Is that a stick shift I see inside? I'm sure Pontiac will see fit to get rid of it.

Please do some reading before you make comments.

Hey, all I know is Pontiac's track record with auto only "performance" cars.

 

[Electric Amish]

From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

 

[Farbio]

i have liked the looks and possible performance of this car from the first time a holden was shown as the donor, glad to see they haven't messed it up yet

Hmmmmm - not sure what to say to this. The interior is quite handsome, actually, though there are an awful lot of small buttons on the stereo and HVAC controls. The exterior is a bit dowdy and overly plain given the car's performance, and what worries me is that I expect Pontiac may get carried away with trying to dress the car up - I find some of the basic shapes of modern Pontiacs attractive, but they always seem to mess them up with too-bold detailing. At least they have stopped using plastic cladding (per Bob Lutz).

the lots of little buttons probably incorporate a gps system in it....or perhaps they will change that a bit to fit in onstar

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

Fair enough, but I would not call this two-door design a sedan; it is more like a large coupe (like the original). IMO this is a legitimate use of the GTO name - obviously in the 21st century nobody will make a car as crude as the original Goat, nor would most buyers want such a car. At least (unlike, say, the godawful Monte Carlo) this car is a high-powered V-8 RWD car with available manual.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Cfour

Originally posted by: BDawg
Is that a stick shift I see inside? I'm sure Pontiac will see fit to get rid of it.

Please do some reading before you make comments.

Hey, all I know is Pontiac's track record with auto only "performance" cars.

Considering that the GTO is more for the 1/4 mile than for the road course, an automatic is the natural choice. Automatics are generally better for drag racing.

ZV

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

Fair enough, but I would not call this two-door design a sedan; it is more like a large coupe (like the original). IMO this is a legitimate use of the GTO name - obviously in the 21st century nobody will make a car as crude as the original Goat, nor would most buyers want such a car. At least (unlike, say, the godawful Monte Carlo) this car is a high-powered V-8 RWD car with available manual.

That's what pisses me off about car designs today. They all look the same.

Anyone that tries something different (Aztech, Baja, PT Cruiser, etc) gets shunned.

Bleh! It's still ugly. I don't care what engine they put in it, I wouldn't buy it.

amish

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

That's what pisses me off about car designs today. They all look the same.

Anyone that tries something different (Aztech, Baja, PT Cruiser, etc) gets shunned.

Bleh! It's still ugly. I don't care what engine they put in it, I wouldn't buy it.

amish

I don't disagree with you that car designs are pretty homogenous nowadays, but I would not say all different designs are "shunned." The PT Cruiser (which I love) is Chrysler's best-selling car, and the New Beetle and Mini Cooper have been big sellers as well. The Aztek is a monstrosity in my eyes (and apparently most other people's), and was rather overpriced on its introduction, which I think accounts for its eye-wateringly poor sales. The Baja is strange but purpose-built, and I imagine highly individualistic Subaru buyers will embrace it.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

That's what pisses me off about car designs today. They all look the same.

Anyone that tries something different (Aztech, Baja, PT Cruiser, etc) gets shunned.

Bleh! It's still ugly. I don't care what engine they put in it, I wouldn't buy it.

amish

I don't disagree with you that car designs are pretty homogenous nowadays, but I would not say all different designs are "shunned." The PT Cruiser (which I love) is Chrysler's best-selling car, and the New Beetle and Mini Cooper have been big sellers as well. The Aztek is a monstrosity in my eyes (and apparently most other people's), and was rather overpriced on its introduction, which I think accounts for its eye-wateringly poor sales. The Baja is strange but purpose-built, and I imagine highly individualistic Subaru buyers will embrace it.

It not like the Subaru actually looks that different from one of those SUV/truck hybrids either... it just looks more carlike. It'll sell... just a question if there's really as much market for it as Subaru thinks. The Baja is a nice car but I didn't really like the design that much, didn't look familiar enough. At least the Beetle and Cooper and even the PT (to a lesser degree) draw in prior cars for a familiarity in the design.

And when I think of GTO... I do think of a Coupe/Sedan bodied car... and a big fat torquey powerful V8 that can vaporize your tires.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

What the hell do you think the original was? What do you think ALL musclecars were? They were two door sedans aka coupes. They weren't low slung sports cars, they weren't mid engined supercars, they were coupes.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

What the hell do you think the original was? What do you think ALL musclecars were? They were coupe versions of sedans. They weren't low slung sports cars, they weren't mid engined supercars, they were coupes.

But back then, not all sedans looked the same. NOTHING looked like a GTO.

You can call the body style anything you want. I call it ugly.

amish

 

[ohtwell]

Very nice!!


: ) Amanda

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

What the hell do you think the original was? What do you think ALL musclecars were? They were coupe versions of sedans. They weren't low slung sports cars, they weren't mid engined supercars, they were coupes.

But back then, not all sedans looked the same. NOTHING looked like a GTO.

You can call the body style anything you want. I call it ugly.

amish

You can "back then" all you want... but I was born in 1984, and when I look at a book of old cars, they all look damned similar. What would you like GM to do? Cover it in barnacles, gills, and fins like other Pontiacs? Cars of every era look the same as other cars of the same era. That's the way fashion works.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
From it's looks, it's a disgrace to the GTO name!!

amish

Aren't you the same person who likes the looks of the Aztek and the Subaru Baja?

Yes, but they are new designs and don't have a legacy. When I think of GTO I don't think of a friggin' sedan.

amish

What the hell do you think the original was? What do you think ALL musclecars were? They were coupe versions of sedans. They weren't low slung sports cars, they weren't mid engined supercars, they were coupes.

But back then, not all sedans looked the same. NOTHING looked like a GTO.

You can call the body style anything you want. I call it ugly.

amish

You can "back then" all you want... but I was born in 1984, and when I look at a book of old cars, they all look damned similar. What would you like GM to do? Cover it in barnacles, gills, and fins like other Pontiacs? Cars of every era look the same as other cars of the same era. That's the way fashion works.

Similar? How did a GTO look like a Camaro, Mustang, Chevelle, Roadrunner, Charger, etc? They were all kinda square looking. You see any of those cars you know immediately what it is. You see this new GTO on the road and you don't know. Could be a GTO. Could be a Monte Carlo. Could be a Cadillac.

amish

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Similar? How did a GTO look like a Camaro, Mustang, Chevelle, Roadrunner, Charger, etc? They were all kinda square looking. You see any of those cars you know immediately what it is. You see this new GTO on the road and you don't know. Could be a GTO. Could be a Monte Carlo. Could be a Cadillac.

amish

Another perfect example of nostalgia creating a delusioned opinion. I can easily spot the difference between the GTO, Monte Carlo, Accord, CTS, Camry, etc, and I'm sure quite a few others can as well. Why? Because I know what to look for. Most musclecars of your era look the same to me, but I'm sure you could point out the various nuances of the different models with ease. To you they appear vastly different.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Cfour

Originally posted by: BDawg
Is that a stick shift I see inside? I'm sure Pontiac will see fit to get rid of it.

Please do some reading before you make comments.

Hey, all I know is Pontiac's track record with auto only "performance" cars.

Cause Auto's are faster on the dragstrip and in street racing when powered by Tigers... everyone with a mechanical I.Q. of 10 or higher knows that

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish


Similar? How did a GTO look like a Camaro, Mustang, Chevelle, Roadrunner, Charger, etc? They were all kinda square looking. You see any of those cars you know immediately what it is. You see this new GTO on the road and you don't know. Could be a GTO. Could be a Monte Carlo. Could be a Cadillac.

amish

If you think the new GTO looks like the current Monte Carlo which also looks like any current Caddy, well then hate to be offensive then you really do not have an eye for cars.

To say this Monaro/New GTO

Looks like this Monte Carlo (just snagged one from their fan site)

Or even like this Caddy CTS

To me, the GTO looks like the design team at BMW and Honda got together to draw it up and allowed some good ole American engine power to be introduced.

I love it.

I wouldn't mind getting it, however I am a Grand Prix guy and I may have to keep with that in the future; something about a full size car I like.

 

[Babbles]

Oh just to add something else about how many cars today are begining to look a bit similar.

There is a scientific reason for that, actually. But, being a bad scientist I can't remember where I read that article, so just have to take my word for it.

Basically, due to wind tunnel tests and performance tests that all the different producers perform they get the same results and that means they will start using the same designs.
Therefore most of the designs are discovered independently (ie Toyota isn't copying Honda, and GM isn't copying Nissan, etc) but rather the best design in a wind tunnel just happens to work across the board therefore all of the producers use a design similar to that.

Follow me?

Cars will be begin to look even more similar in the future as more performance tests will refine the optimal shape of the vehicle's body.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Electric Amish


Similar? How did a GTO look like a Camaro, Mustang, Chevelle, Roadrunner, Charger, etc? They were all kinda square looking. You see any of those cars you know immediately what it is. You see this new GTO on the road and you don't know. Could be a GTO. Could be a Monte Carlo. Could be a Cadillac.

amish

If you think the new GTO looks like the current Monte Carlo which also looks like any current Caddy, well then hate to be offensive then you really do not have an eye for cars.

To say this Monaro/New GTO

Looks like this Monte Carlo (just snagged one from their fan site)

Or even like this Caddy CTS

To me, the GTO looks like the design team at BMW and Honda got together to draw it up and allowed some good ole American engine power to be introduced.

I love it.

I wouldn't mind getting it, however I am a Grand Prix guy and I may have to keep with that in the future; something about a full size car I like.

I thinks the GTO and the Monte Carlo look almost identical.

amish