Poor Yellow Pony (*Car) :-(

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JDMnAR1

Lifer
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Just thought I would chime in here with a couple of things that come to mind.

First of all, I don't believe that you can accurately determine how much, if any, lift was on the truck from that one picture. It looks from that shot that the front axle has been pushed back, as the wheel is in the fender. It also appears that the 'stang has lost some altitude, and the front end of the truck may be resting on it, not allowing the front shocks to fully compress. It may have a very mild lift kit on it - but no way it is "a foot or two". If you had a full profile shot, might be able to tell more from the slope of the hood, roofline, whatever, but as it is can't tell a whole lot. I can tell you that in my stock-height F250, the typical Mustang roofline is about even with the lower edge of my window, and the F350s have a stiffer suspension and generally ride a touch higher.

And hate to break it to you, but there are already plenty of lift laws on the books through out the country (link). Of course, much like gun laws, having them on the books doesn't do any good if you don't enforce them.

With that said, there are plenty of vehicles on the road that would not fare well at all should they happen to encounter my non-lifted SuperDuty up close and personal. For those of you saying how dangerous lifted vehicles are, what would your rallying cry be if I were to have a head-on with some little ground hugger like a Corvette? You think I wouldn't be all over that hood, and me with no lift?
 

Evadman

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Feb 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: JDMnAR1
First of all, I don't believe that you can accurately determine how much, if any, lift was on the truck from that one picture.
The truck has a 4 inch lift kit from Pro-Comp installed. Not 'feet and feet' as was previously indicated. The truck was well within Illinois DOT specs. I have no idea what the lift law is wher ethe accident happened though. They vary greatly from state to state.
 

Howard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Evadman
My God, some people have serious problems. I would go off on another rant at the pure stupidity in this thread, but I will not. Mostly because I am feeling lazy tonight.

Let me just say this. F350 Vs. Mustang = F350. Doesn't matter weather it is lifted or not. Mass always wins, there are no exceptions. DraftHorsePower (the driver of that mustang) lost the battle before it started. As soon as the driver of the truck decided to not pay attention, DraftHorsePower's fate was sealed.

If the truck was not lifted, the result would have been nearly the same. The same amount of kenetic energy would have been disapated by the mustang.
What some people are saying is that the height of the truck caused the crumple zones to be bypassed.

 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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I think people driving more dangerous vehicles (like SUVs and trucks) need to be more responsible in driving their cars. They should realize their vehicle can crush smaller cars in a collision. Harsher penalties should be given to large mass vehicle owners in auto accidents
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Howard
What some people are saying is that the height of the truck caused the crumple zones to be bypassed.
When a 350 hits you, your entire car becomes a crumple zone.
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: jagec
My MR2 may be a deathtrap if I hit someone else, but having the engine behind me is an advantage if I get rear-ended

I agree with the idea that bumper height could be regulated, so people with lifts need to lower their bumpers if they wish to drive on public roadways.

For the off-road guys, I'm sure some company could come up with a "retractable" bumper design that can lift up to give you ground clearance off-road. I'm sure if you can afford gas, insurance, tires, and the lift kit itself, you can afford something like that.

Originally posted by: Fingers

Case and point though, if you don't feel safe in a little car driving around then do something about it. Nobody made you purchase such a small car.

Economics did.:roll:

I hate the "well, if you can afford this, then you can afford that" argument..blah.

Anyway...a good friend of mine has a ~5" lift on his truck, but it's a '93 GMC Sonoma (the lift eliminated tire rubbing)..it's still not all that high.

It's a heck of a lot easier to change a clutch when you can lay under the truck without jackstands, though..
 

Shawn

Lifer
Apr 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: DP
one of the main reasons i like my 4 door yukon.
(i'm not beating on cars, i just feel safer in my yukon)

People shouldn't have to buy SUVs to feel safe. Sh|t like this should be outlawed. It's not like the mustang is a tiny car.
 

Piobaireachd

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DP
one of the main reasons i like my 4 door yukon.
(i'm not beating on cars, i just feel safer in my yukon)

People shouldn't have to buy SUVs to feel safe. Sh|t like this should be outlawed. It's not like the mustang is a tiny car.



Outlawed? Absolutely not. If it's street legal, then anyone with the cash should be able to buy it. This isn't the old Soviet Union.
 

BrokenVisage

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: Piobaireachd
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DP
one of the main reasons i like my 4 door yukon.
(i'm not beating on cars, i just feel safer in my yukon)

People shouldn't have to buy SUVs to feel safe. Sh|t like this should be outlawed. It's not like the mustang is a tiny car.



Outlawed? Absolutely not. If it's street legal, then anyone with the cash should be able to buy it. This isn't the old Soviet Union.

However in Soviet Russia, Mustang crushes F350!

 

Piobaireachd

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Apr 6, 2005
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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Piobaireachd
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DP
one of the main reasons i like my 4 door yukon.
(i'm not beating on cars, i just feel safer in my yukon)

People shouldn't have to buy SUVs to feel safe. Sh|t like this should be outlawed. It's not like the mustang is a tiny car.



Outlawed? Absolutely not. If it's street legal, then anyone with the cash should be able to buy it. This isn't the old Soviet Union.

However in Soviet Russia, Mustang crushes F350!

OK, thanks for making me shoot Pepsi through my nose...

 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Piobaireachd
Originally posted by: Shawn
People shouldn't have to buy SUVs to feel safe. Sh|t like this should be outlawed. It's not like the mustang is a tiny car.
Outlawed? Absolutely not. If it's street legal, then anyone with the cash should be able to buy it. This isn't the old Soviet Union.

well if it's outlawed, it wouldn't exactly be street legal now would it?
 

Yellow Dog

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Apr 1, 2005
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Maybe you should get over your lifted truck thing. You in effect walked away. Had this been a normal or lowered car and the fact it hit you apparently without hitting the brakes, it could have gone under your car, got the gas tank, and toasted you on the spot.

I venture the guy that hit you is some hard core drunk/bad driver. The system should stomp on him, and you need to sue what is left, AND the guy that let him drive his truck.
 

Piobaireachd

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Piobaireachd
Originally posted by: Shawn
People shouldn't have to buy SUVs to feel safe. Sh|t like this should be outlawed. It's not like the mustang is a tiny car.
Outlawed? Absolutely not. If it's street legal, then anyone with the cash should be able to buy it. This isn't the old Soviet Union.

well if it's outlawed, it wouldn't exactly be street legal now would it?

True. I guess what I ment to say is we can't "outlaw" any big vehicle just because it might look scary to someone driving a Yugo.

I have as much of a right to drive a big ol' honkin' SUV as I would driving a Kenworth, Perterbilt, or Mack (as long as I was properly licensed).

I hate it when the first words out of someones mouth is "we should ban it" just because they don't like it.
 

Piobaireachd

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Originally posted by: Yellow Dog
I venture the guy that hit you is some hard core drunk/bad driver. The system should stomp on him, and you need to sue what is left, AND the guy that let him drive his truck.

Exactly. If this is the case then the system should deal with him quickly and severely.

 
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