Pope Benedict to step down on February 28

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lxskllr

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The Pope runs the entire Church and is the top of the hierarchy of the entire ecclesiastical structure of the Catholic Church across the world. Not to mention that he is also the sovereign ruler of an independent country. I'd say there is PLENTY of responsibility for any Pope.

You say "run" like he's sitting at a workstation, tweaking knobs, optimizing the network throughput, or making any decision that needs to be quicker than 'some time in the next year or so'. The organization is self sustaining, and doesn't need input from any individual. The Pope is to the church, as Mickey Mouse is to Disney.
 

cronos

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It doesn't matter. When the Pope dies, executive power over Vatican City and the Church is maintained by the Camerlengo and a revolving set of 3 members of the College of Cardinals until a new Pope is chosen.

Nothing to worry about. Ewan McGregor will take care of things.
 

NetWareHead

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Like what?

I just listed two major job responsibilities of the Papacy in my previous post.

If you think all the Pope does is bless people *name of the father son holy spirit* with his right hand and that's his only responsibility then you need to do some reading and research. The Pope is a priest first before he became Pope and any ministerial position of almost any faith is strenuous and time demanding.
 

Baked

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You know a religion is dead when the chosen one abandons ship. The pope has given up on God!

With that said, I want Morgan Freeman to be the next pope. He will do a fine job.
 
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gorcorps

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Honest question here... What changes if there is no Pope designated right away? I mean, what's the drawback?

Nothing

I mean, don't they usually go until death (which is unpredictable) and then they go through picking a new pope again? So every time this happens there's a delay in having a pope, so it's not really new. It's just different when there's a definite date on it. Are they going to wait until he's actually done or do they start looking now that they have a date in mind?
 

DougK62

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What exactly are his job responsibilities? How often does he have to meet with god and discuss things?

The Pope isn't unlike the President. He spends tons of time traveling, promoting, responding to current social issues, dealing with his direct reports, etc. It's an exhausting job. He is head of one of the largest organizations in the world, which has more than a billion followers.
 

EagleKeeper

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Sometimes they get assassinated.

From wiki:
Apparently the RCC has become civilized

Not very recently when verified as murder
Chronological list of popes murdered
  • Stephen VI (896&#8211;897): Strangled[5]
  • Stephen VII/(IX) (939&#8211;942): Mutilated[citation needed]
  • John XII (955&#8211;964): Presumed Murdered
  • Benedict VI (973&#8211;974): Strangled[6]
  • John XIV (983&#8211;984): Either by starvation, ill-treatment or direct murder[7]
  • Gregory V (996&#8211;999): Poisoned[citation needed]

Chronological list of popes who are alleged to have been murdered

  • John VIII (872&#8211;882): Allegedly poisoned and then clubbed to death[8]
  • Adrian III (884&#8211;885): Allegedly poisoned[citation needed]
  • Leo V (903): Allegedly strangled[9]
  • John X (914&#8211;928): Allegedly smothered with pillow[10]
  • Stephen VII/(VIII) (928&#8211;931): Allegedly murdered[citation needed]
  • Sergius IV (1009&#8211;1012): Allegedly murdered[citation needed]
  • Clement II (1046&#8211;1047): Allegedly poisoned[11]
  • Damasus II (1048): Allegedly murdered[citation needed]
  • Boniface VIII (1294&#8211;1303): Death possibly (though unlikely) from the effects of ill-treatment one month before[12]
  • Benedict XI (1304&#8211;1305): Allegedly poisoned; no evidence provided[citation needed]
  • Pope Pius XI (1922-1939): Allegedly, due to the fact that his doctor was the father of Benito Mussolini's mistress.
  • John Paul I (1978): death just 33 days after Papal election led to conspiracy theories.[13]
 

KeithTalent

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You say "run" like he's sitting at a workstation, tweaking knobs, optimizing the network throughput, or making any decision that needs to be quicker than 'some time in the next year or so'. The organization is self sustaining, and doesn't need input from any individual. The Pope is to the church, as Mickey Mouse is to Disney.

Exactly. Dude's just like The Queen.

KT
 

NetWareHead

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You say "run" like he's sitting at a workstation, tweaking knobs, optimizing the network throughput, or making any decision that needs to be quicker than 'some time in the next year or so'. The organization is self sustaining, and doesn't need input from any individual. The Pope is to the church, as Mickey Mouse is to Disney.

I say "run" as in the Pope exercises ecclesiastical jurisdiction over the entire Church. The pope interprets doctrine and guides the way of the entire church and its faithful. I know what you mean by your example, he doesnt tweak/optimize but there is a tremendous amount of reading and writing of documents and issuing of edicts. Popes write papers and decides with input from staff (cardinals etc...) on how to run the church, conduct masses and what services are beneficial to the people.

I was about to type that the papacy is primarily a desk job but I had to reconsider. Popes make trips to countries to preach. Popes receive foreign dignitaries and meet with world leaders. As a leader of an independent country (Vatican City) the Pope has to deal with foreign policy. I'm sure there is much more to his responsibilities, maybe someone else can chime in.

The Catholic Church is as "self-sustaining" as any business is. There needs to be someone at the top making choices and guiding the organization.
 
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Sonikku

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Bah, I should be pope. Between my progressive thinking, open mindedness and empathy towards others I think I would be just the one to bring the church into the 20th century.
 

NFS4

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Why don't they get a younger Pope? Seems like many of these guys have one foot in the grave when they take office.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Why don't they get a younger Pope? Seems like many of these guys have one foot in the grave when they take office.

You don't get to a position where you can dig up enough dirt on the other cardinals to be able to coerce their votes until later in life. The election process for pope is so corrupt and so rife with greed, bribes and back-stabbing that it makes the U.S. elections look like a Mormons tea party.
 

JM Aggie08

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You don't get to a position where you can dig up enough dirt on the other cardinals to be able to coerce their votes until later in life. The election process for pope is so corrupt and so rife with greed, bribes and back-stabbing that it makes the U.S. elections look like a Mormons tea party.

Mormons can't drink tea.
 

JulesMaximus

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The Pope isn't unlike the President. He spends tons of time traveling, promoting, responding to current social issues, dealing with his direct reports, etc. It's an exhausting job. He is head of one of the largest organizations in the world, which has more than a billion followers.

How hard could that be really?

Gays and abortion = bad
10 commandments, having babies and giving money to the church = good

Pretty simple isn't it? A pre-recorded message could do that.
 
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