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Originally posted by: LoKe
You can't get cooties from pictures, don't worry.
T3H TRUTH !
Originally posted by: LoKe
You can't get cooties from pictures, don't worry.
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: AndrewR
In this respect, the US has more in common with Muslim countries than with Europe. Porn is so titillating because it's hidden and shunned. We can't look at a woman's breasts without buying a magazine wrapped in plastic and hidden on the top shelf. We make it sordid by creating a mystique of elicitness. In France, where I lived for a little while, nudity was more common but less shocking.
We all have bodies, and most of us have sex so why is it considered so awful to see them both? As someone said, as long as it doesn't control your life, I see no harm in it. I also think most men can differentiate between porn stars and real women, unless they are also making themselves feel very inadequate watching the horse hung male porn stars.
do you want to see people having sex in public? there is such a thing as decency. i don't care whether people watch porn, even though it is my opinion that you shouldn't (and yes i've watched tons and tons of porn, i'm not perfect). i agree with the life controlling part, as that would cause a huge problem in relationships.
"Decency" and "modesty" in this context are nothing more than cultural affectations taught to us by a society that is for some strange reason ashamed of sexuality and the human body.
Originally posted by: TheGingerbreadGenius
If we can hold a mature (yadda yadda) conversation about whether we think it's a good or bad thing, what ages people should access it at, whether it's too prevelant on the internet or whatever. Anything like that.
This thread's sorta sparked by me reading the thread in the OS Forum about removing porn from someone's PC. So I'd like to hear some opinions si vous plait.
It'd be very interesting to hear some female points of view on this subject too. Do you enjoy porn, find it repulsive?
If you're in a relationship, do you still view porn, does your partner know?
Personally I'm not a fan of porn. I'm a 15yr old male teenager and I've been there and done that. I quit by force of will but I'll be honest and say that IMO it had got to a vague addiction level. I've got lots of friends who look at it though and it doesn't have an affect on their personality, never did for me either. I just didn't like being sucked into something like that. I'll explain why I don't like the porn industry:
It seems to me that our society is becoming increasingly obsessed by sex. It's used everywhere, marketing and the like. I don't like living in a world where six year old kids can watch near naked women on TV easily? It's rammed down our throats too much. I think that sex is a part of love and needs to be seen and celebrated for that, but we teenagers need to be left to discover it. We need to be allowed to discover the different intimacies of whatever. We shouldn't be seeing some porn star do something and then think 'Should I be doing that during sex?'. Sex education should stay of course and the contraception message needs to be increased but I don't think that people should have all this eroticism surrounding them all the time. It takes the magic etc out of it. It gives sex the wrong image and IMO stuff like the teen porn is very borderline.
Heck, I'm coming to the conclusion that the 'stereotypical' attractive woman image that most teenage males is only held because it's been pushed onto them. If they thought about it enough it wouldn't appear attractive. S'what happened to me. I find it disturbing that this 'ideal' woman touted by a load of porn circles is basically a pre-pubescent girl with huge breasts (lack of pubic hair etc). We should be allowed to make up our own minds from scratch about what we think is attractive.
I just don't like the way sex is used to sell so much, and the way that what used to be the ultimate expression of love has become this warped image of lust etc.
Kids are being pushed to become sexual too young IMO, we ARE growing up too fast in that respect, I don't think it's right in society that I can have 11yr old kids yell at me insulting and disgustingly intimate questions pertaining to my girlfriend and I.
Btw: I know that I'm using the wrong words for some of this when I say things like 'porn is pushed on us' it's obviously 100% on when we view it or not but I do feel like society encourages us to take to it too much.
But still, I don't think it's really that harmful to most people and I'm a huge advocate of free choice so people should do whatever they want. Whether it's looking at porn or not. I just choose not to and dislike the porn industry in general.
Thoughts?
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: AndrewR
In this respect, the US has more in common with Muslim countries than with Europe. Porn is so titillating because it's hidden and shunned. We can't look at a woman's breasts without buying a magazine wrapped in plastic and hidden on the top shelf. We make it sordid by creating a mystique of elicitness. In France, where I lived for a little while, nudity was more common but less shocking.
We all have bodies, and most of us have sex so why is it considered so awful to see them both? As someone said, as long as it doesn't control your life, I see no harm in it. I also think most men can differentiate between porn stars and real women, unless they are also making themselves feel very inadequate watching the horse hung male porn stars.
do you want to see people having sex in public? there is such a thing as decency. i don't care whether people watch porn, even though it is my opinion that you shouldn't (and yes i've watched tons and tons of porn, i'm not perfect). i agree with the life controlling part, as that would cause a huge problem in relationships.
"Decency" and "modesty" in this context are nothing more than cultural affectations taught to us by a society that is for some strange reason ashamed of sexuality and the human body.
yes, because it's perfectly reasonable for children to see sex, try and emulate that, and wind up with their own kids at the age of 12:disgust:
i'll repeat part of a previous post of mine: at my home, every single daycare in public high schools in the tri-county area is at maximum capacity. that's unacceptable. it's money taxpayers shouldn't have to spend, and responsibility those kids shouldn't have to bear, because they're sure as hell not in a great position to raise a family.
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: AndrewR
In this respect, the US has more in common with Muslim countries than with Europe. Porn is so titillating because it's hidden and shunned. We can't look at a woman's breasts without buying a magazine wrapped in plastic and hidden on the top shelf. We make it sordid by creating a mystique of elicitness. In France, where I lived for a little while, nudity was more common but less shocking.
We all have bodies, and most of us have sex so why is it considered so awful to see them both? As someone said, as long as it doesn't control your life, I see no harm in it. I also think most men can differentiate between porn stars and real women, unless they are also making themselves feel very inadequate watching the horse hung male porn stars.
do you want to see people having sex in public? there is such a thing as decency. i don't care whether people watch porn, even though it is my opinion that you shouldn't (and yes i've watched tons and tons of porn, i'm not perfect). i agree with the life controlling part, as that would cause a huge problem in relationships.
"Decency" and "modesty" in this context are nothing more than cultural affectations taught to us by a society that is for some strange reason ashamed of sexuality and the human body.
yes, because it's perfectly reasonable for children to see sex, try and emulate that, and wind up with their own kids at the age of 12:disgust:
i'll repeat part of a previous post of mine: at my home, every single daycare in public high schools in the tri-county area is at maximum capacity. that's unacceptable. it's money taxpayers shouldn't have to spend, and responsibility those kids shouldn't have to bear, because they're sure as hell not in a great position to raise a family.
And you have evidence to support your hypothesis that porn is the cause of this? Please detail any research you have done on the subject, other than just mindless ranting here.
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: AndrewR
In this respect, the US has more in common with Muslim countries than with Europe. Porn is so titillating because it's hidden and shunned. We can't look at a woman's breasts without buying a magazine wrapped in plastic and hidden on the top shelf. We make it sordid by creating a mystique of elicitness. In France, where I lived for a little while, nudity was more common but less shocking.
We all have bodies, and most of us have sex so why is it considered so awful to see them both? As someone said, as long as it doesn't control your life, I see no harm in it. I also think most men can differentiate between porn stars and real women, unless they are also making themselves feel very inadequate watching the horse hung male porn stars.
do you want to see people having sex in public? there is such a thing as decency. i don't care whether people watch porn, even though it is my opinion that you shouldn't (and yes i've watched tons and tons of porn, i'm not perfect). i agree with the life controlling part, as that would cause a huge problem in relationships.
"Decency" and "modesty" in this context are nothing more than cultural affectations taught to us by a society that is for some strange reason ashamed of sexuality and the human body.
yes, because it's perfectly reasonable for children to see sex, try and emulate that, and wind up with their own kids at the age of 12:disgust:
i'll repeat part of a previous post of mine: at my home, every single daycare in public high schools in the tri-county area is at maximum capacity. that's unacceptable. it's money taxpayers shouldn't have to spend, and responsibility those kids shouldn't have to bear, because they're sure as hell not in a great position to raise a family.
And you have evidence to support your hypothesis that porn is the cause of this? Please detail any research you have done on the subject, other than just mindless ranting here.
i'm not trying to argue that porn is the cause of this, i'm arguing that a overly liberal attitude towards sex, which has serious consequences (having kids), is the cause of this. widespread porn is a part of that. i'm not suggesting regulation of it by any means, just stating an opinion about it.
Originally posted by: eits
i look at porn daily.... can't help myself.
however, i don't agree with it... i think it's bad. i think that it gives girls who were abused as kid an unhealthy outlet. it also desensitizes people to the joys, thrills, and feeling of exclusiveness during sex.
hey, i'm a hypocrit on this issue... i know i am. at least i've got the balls to say it rather than try to justify it.
Originally posted by: Reck
american culture is the only culture that HATES sex. :disgust:
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Originally posted by: eits
i look at porn daily.... can't help myself.
however, i don't agree with it... i think it's bad. i think that it gives girls who were abused as kid an unhealthy outlet. it also desensitizes people to the joys, thrills, and feeling of exclusiveness during sex.
hey, i'm a hypocrit on this issue... i know i am. at least i've got the balls to say it rather than try to justify it.
You really believe that girls who were abused as a child are going to go out and find some alternative to doing porno if porno wasnt around? You dont think they might just slut around?
i never implied that. what i was trying to say is that there's something wrong about getting your jollies from a girl who got the way she is because she was abused as a kid. rather than sort out her problems constructively and see a therapist, she resorted to porn. that's not to say that ALL pornstars were abused or that all abused people end up in porn.
as for people who were abused and couldn't get into porn, sure... they'd probably end up being sluts or junkies or whatever, but at least it's not plastered all over society to readily and progressively desensitize people to sex.
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: meltdown75
i can't imagine going through puberty with the amount of pr0n available these days.
honestly, i would have wacked myself to death!
I did my fair share of it without any porn. It's not entirely necessary for the process, after all
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Originally posted by: eits
i look at porn daily.... can't help myself.
however, i don't agree with it... i think it's bad. i think that it gives girls who were abused as kid an unhealthy outlet. it also desensitizes people to the joys, thrills, and feeling of exclusiveness during sex.
hey, i'm a hypocrit on this issue... i know i am. at least i've got the balls to say it rather than try to justify it.
You really believe that girls who were abused as a child are going to go out and find some alternative to doing porno if porno wasnt around? You dont think they might just slut around?
i never implied that. what i was trying to say is that there's something wrong about getting your jollies from a girl who got the way she is because she was abused as a kid. rather than sort out her problems constructively and see a therapist, she resorted to porn. that's not to say that ALL pornstars were abused or that all abused people end up in porn.
as for people who were abused and couldn't get into porn, sure... they'd probably end up being sluts or junkies or whatever, but at least it's not plastered all over society to readily and progressively desensitize people to sex.
So its better that they get aids and become drug addicted then make mad bank getting fvcked on camera...
And who are we to say these women were abused. Surely some of them were. But should we do anything about it...is there anything we could do about it? Ban the production of porn, it'll just go underground and these women will strip...maybe become prostitutes. What is a safer industry to be in...the porn industry or prostitution? You can't save people that don't want to be saved. We banned drugs...that sure got rid of the problem. We tried banning booze for awhile...that didn't seem to go over to well.
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Originally posted by: eits
i look at porn daily.... can't help myself.
however, i don't agree with it... i think it's bad. i think that it gives girls who were abused as kid an unhealthy outlet. it also desensitizes people to the joys, thrills, and feeling of exclusiveness during sex.
hey, i'm a hypocrit on this issue... i know i am. at least i've got the balls to say it rather than try to justify it.
You really believe that girls who were abused as a child are going to go out and find some alternative to doing porno if porno wasnt around? You dont think they might just slut around?
i never implied that. what i was trying to say is that there's something wrong about getting your jollies from a girl who got the way she is because she was abused as a kid. rather than sort out her problems constructively and see a therapist, she resorted to porn. that's not to say that ALL pornstars were abused or that all abused people end up in porn.
as for people who were abused and couldn't get into porn, sure... they'd probably end up being sluts or junkies or whatever, but at least it's not plastered all over society to readily and progressively desensitize people to sex.
So its better that they get aids and become drug addicted then make mad bank getting fvcked on camera...
And who are we to say these women were abused. Surely some of them were. But should we do anything about it...is there anything we could do about it? Ban the production of porn, it'll just go underground and these women will strip...maybe become prostitutes. What is a safer industry to be in...the porn industry or prostitution? You can't save people that don't want to be saved. We banned drugs...that sure got rid of the problem. We tried banning booze for awhile...that didn't seem to go over to well.
so, all pornstars will become prostitutes if they couldn't do porn?
Originally posted by: Crescent13
I'm a 14 y/o male teenager
Like you said, been there, done that, and I'm tired of porn now.