Portal 2 releasing early?

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Texashiker

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Got up this morning, turned steam on and a message pooped up saying portal 2 is now available. Last night at around 10:3opm central time the steam page said P2 would be available in about 11 hours, so maybe the game did release a few hours early?

Decrypting game files now, but have to wait until I get home from work to play. Today is going to be a long day
 

Liet

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At about midnight last night I checked and saw Portal 2 would unlock at about 12:30. Silly Valve... I have a job. I went to sleep.

Played for 20 minutes this morning, and loved it. Felt like coming home again. The trick is going to find a fun partner for co-op, as mentioned.

Also, the DLC is fucking ridiculous. You want me to pay $3 for a beanie, Valve? You can go fall in a pit and take your microtransaction ingame store with you. Assholes.
 

Texashiker

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There seems to be a lot of "thats it?" going on in the steam forums. People are reporting they finished P2 in around 5 - 5.2 hours.

I hope P2 offers more then just a few hours of gameplay like people are posting.
 

Texashiker

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uhhh, yeah ... P1 was about that long, wtf?

I got P1 as part of the orange box, so I did not mind it being a short game.

If I paid $43 for a game that has less then 10 hours playing time, that is going to bite pretty bad.

The main reason why I bought P2 was to have something new until Brink or Duke nukem forever was released, or until the new left 4 dead 2 content is released.

Plus, I want to play the P2 multi-player with my kids.
 

Liet

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Given the choice between 5 or 20 hours, I'd of course choose 20. However, I'd pay Portal 2 prices for Portal 1, and that was also short.

I'm disappointed you can't get more of a good thing, but in the end, it's a quality game and I'm thankful SOME major dev out there made one recently. Well, Shogun 2 is pretty kickass, too.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Sep 3, 2001
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The co-op campaign is amazing fun. Easy GOTY material.

I don't see that happening.

A. sequels can never truly recapture the same charm as the original, as much improved as this game is, it simply isn't a brand new experience, there are a few more tricks here and there but its ultimately just a sequel.


B. Just like Portal 1, I really don't see the replay value here. Single player is a good deal longer/more complex than the original, but its ultimately not that much longer gameplay-wise, again because it isn't original - puzzles that utterly stumped us in Portal 1 are easy peasy here and single player shouldn't take any ardent Portal 1 vet more than 6-8 hours to complete.

Heck, I just finished it in a little over 6.5 hours and I felt like I took my time looking for easter-eggs and trying to do achievements. And outside of farming achievements I really can't see myself running through single player again any time soon, any easter-eggs I missed will surely be on you-tube soon enough.


C. so while the single player feels decently long enough, it definitely is what I'd say is worthy of a $50 game, especially when the puzzles are so easy at least up until a point where they become nearly impossible out of the blue. Don't get me wrong, I say impossible for effect, I still managed to figure out the puzzles and keep moving to beat them game in relatively short order. However its all about the flow, I'm moving along and moving along and then all of the sudden I spend a half an hour trying to figure out a puzzle that has to be solved in such a particular way that if you mess it up its a PITA to do everything over even if it is only a couple extra minutes or even seconds (the game could have used a sprint function). This problem also occured in Mirror's Edge where anytime you have to stop and figure out how to get from one part of that game to another was kind of a drag because you just wanted to keep moving.

I dunno, I guess I'm just a bit disappointed because it really just felt like a far more polished Portal 1 with the same kind of puzzles but with different elements as opposed to having more puzzles that could be solved in a mutlitude of ways. I was hoping for a more open world that could be explored more instead of being as on-rails as it was.


D. However co-op is where its at, that's for certain. The most unique/fun/satisfying experiences from this game are from playing co-op.

But the only chance this game has for being considered for GOTY is just how long co-op is. I have yet to complete it, but I'm pretty sure my buddy and I were already just over half way through it before he had to go to bed, which would be disappointing.

Inferring that to be the case, or that its at least no longer than single player, I think we'd definitely need to see new test chamber maps on a regular basis, whether official or usermade (and if they're usermade they need to be very easily implemented). I'll definitely run through the co-op maps a couple of times with different buddies (if only to try and grief each other by trying to get the other killed at unexpected moments) but outside of that I don't see a point to keep playing over and over.

Sure, you can try and beat best times, but that simply doesn't match the thrill of live opponents where no 2 play-throughs will feel exactly the same.




Conclusion: Don't get me wrong, so far I have really enjoyed the game and fully expect to get more than my money's worth. I just don't think its anywhere near GOTY material from what I have seen so far (played through single player, half of co-op). I simply don't see it having any chance at all of beating any of the other anticipated blockbusters like Battlefield 3... or The Old Republic... or Skyrim... or Duke Nukem Forever... or Rage... or Brink... or Deus Ex: Human Revolution... or Mass Effect 3... etc...
 
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people who complain about game length without any consideration to the game itself are morons. 5 hrs of something like portal is > than 50 hrs in some bullshit RPG grinding for loot.
 

JujuFish

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There seems to be a lot of "thats it?" going on in the steam forums. People are reporting they finished P2 in around 5 - 5.2 hours.

I hope P2 offers more then just a few hours of gameplay like people are posting.
This is exactly why I chose not to preorder it. I'll get it when it gets its first big Steam sale.
 

Liet

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people who complain about game length without any consideration to the game itself are morons. 5 hrs of something like portal is > than 50 hrs in some bullshit RPG grinding for loot.

Totally true... BUT, if they can produce 5 hours of quality SP, they could have done 10 without too much more effort, ya know?
 

Scouzer

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So is the coop campaign separate? Is it a 5 hour ish SP campaign + another, different 5 hourish coop campaign? If so... I can deal with that.
 

JTsyo

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So is the coop campaign separate? Is it a 5 hour ish SP campaign + another, different 5 hourish coop campaign? If so... I can deal with that.

Not sure how long MP campaign is but it's different than SP.

It's better to have a short game than to make it longer with grind (say getting keys from different parts of the map and going back and forth.) With what Valve likes to do with mircotransactions don't be surprised with map DLCs. Though I think they grow out 1 or 2 free ones too.
 
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Grooveriding

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The game is not an epic saga of length. That can't be argued. But the game is amazing. Considering how much complete crap comes out every month, this game is head and shoulders above the rest.

I don't think it's feasible to make 20+ hours of gameplay for a game like this. The co-op campaign is easily matching in length to the single player as well, so you get about 12 hours of gameplay. Also for some people who don't use cheats and are not that quick with the puzzles, the gameplay will take longer.

The co-op experience is absolutely amazing. In my experience and opinion this is the best game to have been released last year or this year.

I'm sure there are going to be additional campaigns released for this game. My guess is new co-op campaigns will come out. I sure hope the modding community comes forth and puts out custom co-op puzzles. If it is in the form of paid DLC on the PC (guaranteed it will be paid on console) I will be disappointed but I'll still pay for it.

With all the crap out there today, I am grateful for every decent title that makes its way out.
 

Childs

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The first two chapters took me about an hour, but I'm looking at everything, listening to everything etc. If it is 10 - 12 chapters it might be a little short, but if the puzzles are good then I'm happy with it. I can always replay the game in a month or two when I've forgotten how to solve the puzzles.
 
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Can someone make an 'official' portal 2 thread? I searched last night and couldn't find one; I won't be a frequent poster in PC Gaming so I didn't want to have to mess with keeping the OP updated etc...
 

frostedflakes

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They have challenges and stuff too like the original Portal don't they? I spent a fair amount of time in the original trying to improve speed, use as few portals as possible, stuff like that. Some of the challenges could be pretty fun and tricky and required quite a bit of thought and practice.

As with many games I'm sure you get as much out of it as you put in. Obviously if you breeze through the main story and don't bother to do any of the extras, you won't get much enjoyment out of it.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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people who complain about game length without any consideration to the game itself are morons. 5 hrs of something like portal is > than 50 hrs in some bullshit RPG grinding for loot.

I haven't played it yet as my copy hasn't come in yet but 5hrs of gameplay for a $50/$60 game still sucks.
 
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