Possible coup in Turkey

[LegendKiller]

So this Taha Ozhan guy on CNN now says this whole thing was led by a group in Pennsylvania??

 

[tynopik]

So this Taha Ozhan guy on CNN now says this whole thing was led by a group in Pennsylvania??

they blame him for everything, of course they blame him for this too

if they suffer a drought, they would say it's his fault

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So this Taha Ozhan guy on CNN now says this whole thing was led by a group in Pennsylvania??

It had to be led by the Amish Mafia.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

It will be interesting. Turkey is one of the US's biggest allies in the area. We have a joint US airbase there with nuclear weapons. So far, the base and US soldiers have not been affected.

I'd imagine a massive military base would be one of the safest (best defended) places there. I think there is a massive (friendly) Cypress/British base, somewhat nearby.

What confuses me somewhat, is having a volatile unstable country like that (Turkey), could spark a war between it, and other(s). Then NATO would be drawn in, to something silly, like Turkey vs Syria or something.

I presume there are very good military reasons for having Turkey as a NATO member, since that region is one of the hottest (as in dangerous) parts of the world, in many respects. (Middle East).

 

[sportage]

This could have been really bad.
US base located in Turkey and they have nukes.
If they were threatened, the full force of the United States military would come down upon Turkey to protect our base AND our nukes.
And no doubt Putin was a little nervous as well, to say the least.

When it all comes out, if it all comes out, I'd wager Obama was on the phone with President Erdogan and Putin, offering US support and averting the situation from worsening. As much as Obama was able to.
After all, that communication would have been in our best interest, to say the least.
And in Putin's best interest as well.

One has to wonder how a president Donald Trump might have handled this situation?
Would Trump tweet out that ISIS was at the root of all this?
Would president Trump immediately send in ground troops, without first evaluating the situation?
Would a failed coup have become much much worse by the actions of a know nothing, or know it all (whichever you chose) US president Donald Trump?
Or, would people assume Trump simply turn the whole matter over to his cabinet, the Trump administration, to figure out and then decide for Trump what to to?
And how dangerous would that possibly have been, president Trump handing this over to third party administration officials, then solely relying on their take of the situation to make president Trump's final decision on what to do, if anything?

Under a Trump presidency, just who would be making the hard decisions?
And how would we know what minds and brains were actually behind those decisions?
Especially when knee jerk tweet king Donald Trump handed every hard decision over to others to decide?

If president JFK had been president Donald Trump, we would have had WWIII between the United States and Soviet Union. Full on war, and a nuclear war to boot.
JFK had the brains and self control to run the show during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
JFK averted war.
However, military leaders during JFK were all too eager to take on the risks of war, and that included using nuclear weapons.

If Donald Trump had been president instead of JFK, the military leaders would have entered the entire world into war. Nuclear war directly between ourselves and the Soviet Union.
And bobble-head president Trump would have fully agreed with that decision from his military leaders. What else could he do, considering his total lack of leadership, knowledge, and judgment?
And I doubt us Anandtech members would be here to post in these lovely Anandtech forums.

Think about THAT Trump supporters....

 

[Londo_Jowo]

LMAO!!!! Do you actually think anyone is going to pay attention to your wall of text drivel, specially a undecided voter

 

[Racan]

Very worrying: Erdogan promised to purge the army "This uprising is a gift from God to us because this will be a reason to cleanse our army"

https://twitter.com/Sophiemcneill/status/754220130037530624

 

[Racan]

Erdogan will now have a free hand to transform Turkey into an Islamic state.

 

[AtenRa]

If that was a Military coup then im the Pope of Rome.

This seams like it was a well orchestrated "play" from the beginning to make Erdogan stronger inside Turkey. We will witness the next months how much stronger Erdogan will be. This "coup" will have exactly the opposite effect than what a real military coup would have made on the political structure of the country.
Instead, now the Politicians will become even stronger and they will have the people celebrating on top of that. People will celebrate a democratic victory over the "Military coup" and at the same time Erdogan will be more powerful and be able to completely rule with less and less public rights.

My best wishes to neighbors

 

[DeathReborn]

2,745 judges & prosecutors dismissed after this failed coup of a dictator, yup democracy is alive and well in Turkey...

Can't believe the EU wants Turkey inside, it's almost like they want to implode.

 

[flexy]

As someone else mentioned yesterday, coups are rarely ever a good thing.

But from little what I learned yesterday, the Turkish military is not under gvt control and sees it as their duty to restore a more democratic (secular) gvt more to what Atatürk had in mind.

Here it was simply the case that the military likely saw it about time to remove Islamofascist Erdogan from power, which I WOULD NOT HAVE MINDED AT ALL.

Erdogan is a fucking dictator, and I don't think a more secular Turkish gvt would have been a worse alternative...

 

[Orignal Earl]

It's usually best not to mess with US nuclear weapons.
If you don't want your entire country to glow in the dark.

Is that how it works?
A country lets the US move nukes into the country, the US loses a nuke, nuke the country?

 

[Jaskalas]

Erdogan will now have a free hand to transform Turkey into an Islamic state.

That is exactly what happens next.

 

[bshole]

This is what the people of Turkey want, a Muslim theocracy. It is a lost cause. Do not dare to say that there is not ideological warfare going on. Do not dare to say that we are not losing. We sure the fuck are. Humanity is going over the cliff. We are sliding back down into the abyss of religiosity, faith and unreason. A very very dark day for sure.

 

[Jaskalas]

The mob in the streets has already beheaded one soldier.

 

[MongGrel]

I seriously doubt anyone was anywhere near threatening the weapons bunkers at Incirlik.

http://thebulletin.org/status-us-nuclear-weapons-turkey

Is another site I usually at least glance at on a daily basis.

http://thebulletin.org/

 

[bshole]

The mob in the streets has already beheaded one soldier.

It is sickening to see the one secular Muslim state fall. There is now not a single Muslim country in the entire fucking world that any rational person could point to as a model of how civilization should be organized. The West and America has a great deal of responsibility for this state of affairs but the Islamic religion and the people of Muslim faith living in those regions have at least an equal if not greater share of the responsibility as well.

 

[LegendKiller]

It is sickening to see the one secular Muslim state fall. There is now not a single Muslim country in the entire fucking world that any rational person could point to as a model of how civilization should be organized. The West and America has a great deal of responsibility for this state of affairs but the Islamic religion and the people of Muslim faith living in those regions have at least an equal if not greater share of the responsibility as well.

Obama's brilliant global strategy. He loves the Muslim brotherhood. He loves edrogan. He loves Iran. He hates israel.

This whole thing was a setup. Dismissing thousands of judges and prosecutors? Him "escaping" and suddenly showing up again hours later?

 

[kage69]

Obama's brilliant global strategy. He loves the Muslim brotherhood. He loves edrogan.

When you find yourself regurgitating the same nonsense as Steve Doocey, it might be time to re-evaluate your life.

I know it's been said before, many times, but seriously LK: get help. A grown adult believing the things you do points to issues I hope you won't ignore. Good luck.

 

[LegendKiller]

When you find yourself regurgitating the same nonsense as Steve Doocey, it might be time to re-evaluate your life.

I know it's been said before, many times, but seriously LK: get help. A grown adult believing the things you do points to issues I hope you won't ignore. Good luck.

How am I wrong? Most grown adults that aren't liberals believe what I believe. Your faux intellectual superiority blinds you.

 

[kage69]

How am I wrong? Most grown adults that aren't liberals believe what I believe. Your faux intellectual superiority blinds you.

Obama was already in a committed relationship with North Korea, duh.

You parrots forget your own talking points so quickly!

 

[LegendKiller]

Obama was already in a committed relationship with North Korea, duh.

You parrots forget your own talking points so quickly!

That's about the only country he hasn't sucked up to

 

[MongGrel]

Obama's brilliant global strategy. He loves the Muslim brotherhood. He loves edrogan. He loves Iran. He hates israel.

This whole thing was a setup. Dismissing thousands of judges and prosecutors? Him "escaping" and suddenly showing up again hours later?

Your so ignorant in most areas it is truly amazing.

Turkey is still a Parliamentary Democracy at the moment, whether you like who is in power or not. Has been for a long time now, way before Obama was elected.

Our XO in the Marine Squadron I was in in 1982-1984 was of Turkish origin, the CO later went on to take over a major position there on a rotation.

The US has had dealing with Turkey for decades, most posters here seem to be pretty clueless in general on some topics and fire from the hip.

The EU still will recognize it as a Democratic Republic, I agree it is not the most enlightened one in many areas, but even the Saudis are still a Kingdom.

 

[LegendKiller]

Your so ignorant in most areas it is truly amazing.

Turkey is still a Parliamentary Democracy at the moment, whether you like who is in power or not. Has been for a long time now, way before Obama was elected.

Our XO in the Marine Squadron I was in in 1982-1984 was of Turkish origin, the CO later went on to take over a major position there.

The US has had dealing with Turkey for decades, most posters here seem to be pretty clueless in general.

The EU still will recognize it as a Democratic Republic, I agree it is not the most enlightened one in many areas, but even the Saudis are still a Kingdom.

Wow, so you had one interaction 30 years ago. Congrat-u-fucking-lations.

No shit sherlock. Howevet, everybody knows that edrogan has been slowly eroding the democracy. You'd have to be dumb, deaf, and blind not to know that.

The EU isn't even a democratic entity and they appear to be in love with non democratic methods at this point and inviting as many refugees in as possible. So who gives a shit what they do. Their liberal cucks suppress rapes, torture, crimes, and other such things from the native populace.

 

[MongGrel]

Wow, so you had one interaction 30 years ago. Congrat-u-fucking-lations.

No shit sherlock. Howevet, everybody knows that edrogan has been slowly eroding the democracy. You'd have to be dumb, deaf, and blind not to know that.

The EU isn't even a democratic entity and they appear to be in love with non democratic methods at this point and inviting as many refugees in as possible. So who gives a shit what they do. Their liberal cucks suppress rapes, torture, crimes, and other such things from the native populace.

Your not even worth trying to have a conversation with. Your basically just a rude shit poster, more or less. I've been well aware of what Edrogan has been up to a long time now.

My point was in mentioning that was I have had a pretty interactive knowledge of what has been going on in Turkey for almost over 30 years, not that is was one interaction.

Talk about faux intellectual superiority, you're pretty much the definition of it.