Possible GOP VP candidate calls for religious test in US. Fail, get deported

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Orignal Earl

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You could, quite frankly, phrase this as changing or tightening our screening for Islamic terrorism. But obviously US citizens cannot be deported.
Extremists who are not citizens, should damn well be deported, no?

Is it just the Islamic Extremists that you would want deported or all Extremists?
Say I have some neo nazi buds coming in from France to visit? No-go ?
 
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Is it just the Islamic Extremists that you would want deported or all Extremists?
Say I have some neo nazi buds coming in from France to visit? No-go ?

Until neo nazis start driving trucks into crowds, bombing airports, shooting up and torturing theaters, clubs, and cafes full of people, and flying planes into buildings, our focus on islam is undeniably justified.
 

Orignal Earl

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Until neo nazis start driving trucks into crowds, bombing airports, shooting up and torturing theaters, clubs, and cafes full of people, and flying planes into buildings, our focus on islam is undeniably justified.

I can think of lot's of groups who have done all those things including neo nazi's
You need to adjust your scanners a shit load
 

Orignal Earl

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You're right. This is real life, where each death has a profound and lasting impact on families and communities. The stakes couldn't be higher.

So, kill count?

You want me to find a total number of people that have drove trucks into crowds, bombed airports, shot up and tortured theaters, clubs, and cafes full of people, and flew planes into buildings
Then figure out how many of them were Muslims?
Could you help me get started?
You do the non Muslim part, I'll do the Muslim part
 

ivwshane

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You're right. This is real life, where each death has a profound and lasting impact on families and communities. The stakes couldn't be higher.

So, kill count?

I'm curious, what's the acceptable number of deaths by extremists you are ok with? Are you ok with one murder but two is too much? Or are you ok with five murders but six is where you draw the line and think the constitution and American values no longer apply?
 
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I'm curious, what's the acceptable number of deaths by extremists you are ok with? Are you ok with one murder but two is too much? Or are you ok with five murders but six is where you draw the line and think the constitution and American values no longer apply?

What are you going on about?

Foreign muslims are afforded NONE of the protections of our constitution.

Government action against U.S. citizens is restrained by the constitution. Of course, being a violent muslim and U.S. citizen is biting the hand that feeds you, and spitting in the eye of the greatest country western civilization has yet produced.

As for any other type of extremist, murdering innocents equally wrong. Take a wild guess as to which extremist group has the highest kill count and number of attacks, though.
 
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You want me to find a total number of people that have drove trucks into crowds, bombed airports, shot up and tortured theaters, clubs, and cafes full of people, and flew planes into buildings
Then figure out how many of them were Muslims?
Could you help me get started?
You do the non Muslim part, I'll do the Muslim part

Sure, tally that, AND tally the number of people killed by muslims in these attacks.

You might find it illuminating.
 

Orignal Earl

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Of course, being a violent muslim and U.S. citizen is biting the hand that feeds you, and spitting in the eye of the greatest country western civilization has yet produced.

I did some tallying

Americans murder 23 times as much as Canadians
Americans rape 147 times more then Canadians
Americans smoke the weed 9% more then Canadians

Overall though I think the vast majority of you are fine folk
 
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I did some tallying

Americans murder 23 times as much as Canadians
Americans rape 147 times more then Canadians
Americans smoke the weed 9% more then Canadians

Overall though I think the vast majority of you are fine folk

Most of us definitely are fine folks, and our crime stats look even better when you factor out certain demographic groups that bump up our averages.

Oh wait, that's racist.
 

raildogg

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Most of us definitely are fine folks, and our crime stats look even better when you factor out certain demographic groups that bump up our averages.

Oh wait, that's racist.

So your saying that we shouldn't look at the supposed crime stats as a whole but rather in segmented demographics ? Why does that really matter? We could look at everything in certain segments and prove our point.
 

nickqt

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Most of us definitely are fine folks, and our crime stats look even better when you factor out certain demographic groups that bump up our averages.

Oh wait, that's racist.

Oh, you're totally right.

Remove the male demographic of crime and the US is the most angelic place on the planet.

#DeportMales
 

ivwshane

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What are you going on about?

Foreign muslims are afforded NONE of the protections of our constitution.

Government action against U.S. citizens is restrained by the constitution. Of course, being a violent muslim and U.S. citizen is biting the hand that feeds you, and spitting in the eye of the greatest country western civilization has yet produced.

As for any other type of extremist, murdering innocents equally wrong. Take a wild guess as to which extremist group has the highest kill count and number of attacks, though.

Actually anyone who is in the US is protected by the constitution. This is basic shit unless you are an idiot.
 
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Actually anyone who is in the US is protected by the constitution. This is basic shit unless you are an idiot.

In the borders, sure. Outside the borders, no. Furthermore, laws can be made for immigrants that can't be made for U.S. citizens.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...o_noncitizens_have_constitutional_rights.html

"Because immigration is considered a matter of national security and foreign policy, the Supreme Court has long held that immigration law is largely immune from judicial review. Congress can make rules for immigrants that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens."
 

Orignal Earl

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Most of us definitely are fine folks, and our crime stats look even better when you factor out certain demographic groups that bump up our averages.

Oh wait, that's racist.

I never said you were fine folk
You defiantly come off as rapey and no doubt on the weed
 

ivwshane

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In the borders, sure. Outside the borders, no. Furthermore, laws can be made for immigrants that can't be made for U.S. citizens.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...o_noncitizens_have_constitutional_rights.html

"Because immigration is considered a matter of national security and foreign policy, the Supreme Court has long held that immigration law is largely immune from judicial review. Congress can make rules for immigrants that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens."

Oh so you are only talking about keeping out new immigrants and not the ones already here?
 

wirelessenabled

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Just what do you want us to do with people who want to kill us (and you) so much that they are happy to die also to get that accomplished?

Jim

What people are you talking about? Muslims in general or specific individuals?

The problem with Newt and Trump is that they want to lump all Muslims in together.

The country would probably be better served if we deported all Catholic priests as they have demonstrated a higher rate of pedophilia than the general population.
 

Greenman

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So your saying that we shouldn't look at the supposed crime stats as a whole but rather in segmented demographics ? Why does that really matter? We could look at everything in certain segments and prove our point.

Of course you look at as segmented demographics. The entire point is to gain information from the numbers.
 

Jaskalas

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Is it just the Islamic Extremists that you would want deported or all Extremists?
Say I have some neo nazi buds coming in from France to visit? No-go ?

Some little skinhead !@#$es didn't commit an act of war on September 11th.
But if there was a large foreign population of them causing systemic trouble, then hell yes they should be screened OUT of any possible immigration and their visas should be revoked.

Why the hell should our door be open to terrorists?
And why the hell would anyone (yourself included) think otherwise?
 

jackstar7

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Why the hell should our door be open to terrorists?
And why the hell would anyone (yourself included) think otherwise?

Our door is open. It's an American principle.

No amount of screening is going to prevent all terrorists.

The world is forever an uncertain place. And yet, it remains true that most men lead lives of quiet desperation.
 
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