Possible warning on Opty 144/146/148 Etc...

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Thanks for the heads-up. Maybe it was a good thing that I impulse-bought a 170...

:thumbsup: Exactly.. if stock disappears may even become in more demand and sell for profit! specially you get a 0530.

 

[Drizzy]

wish we could verify this - i want one but $$ is tight right now..

 

[bigpow]

Originally posted by: Mucker
Get em' while their hot!!!

I'm afraid that's exactly what They want you to think..

 

[Mucker]

Originally posted by: bigpow

Originally posted by: Mucker
Get em' while their hot!!!

I'm afraid that's exactly what They want you to think..

IMO, I don't think so. The Opteron is a robust chip compared to the rest of the A64 lineup. The memory controllers are quite strong, just shy of FX grade. The 144 is a 1.8 GHz part that has hit 3.2 GHz. That's 1400 MHz OC :Q. Of course all of them don't hit that, however, the average is probably 2.7-2.8 GHz (900 to 1000 MHz). We're talking about $145 retail cpu. The new CAB2E's are hitting 3.0 GHz. The A64's simply can't hold a candle to them.

Typical A64 OC = 400 to 1000 MHz
Typical Opty OC = 600 to 1400 MHz

The closest comparable A64 is the SD3700 which retails at $233. Honestly, I don't know what AMD was thinking when they released these for 939 at the prices they did. Nobody in there right mind would touch an A64 if the course held steady. AMD simply can't afford to produce server grade 939 chips and expect to sell the less stringently tested A64's.

Why they created this scenario is a mystery to me, better chip for less money. Simply doesn't add up. I can see this speculated move happening very easily....

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Tankguy--do you have any in stock right now and are you expecting to receive any more? Did your supplier tell you that he wasn't sure he could continue to get them to you?

 

[VStrom]

You guys are freaking me out...hehe. I might order a Opty 175 (I haven't even received my 148 yet!). The wife will kill me :disgust:

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Tankguy--do you have any in stock right now and are you expecting to receive any more? Did your supplier tell you that he wasn't sure he could continue to get them to you?

Nope, I don't have anymore 144/146's available right now. If I did, I wouldn't have posted this thread for fear of seeming like I was just trying to fear-monger and blow out my stock.

I do have a few 165's coming in Monday that are still available, but I haven't heard any info on them so I am not worried on those yet.

Most of my suppliers have no 144/146 available or any on order anymore. The last one is trying to snag every last one he can and ship them to us, but I have no idea if he can find any, or how many that would even be.

My main point in posting this was so if any of you were intersted, you could go out and buy them anywhere while you still could.

 

[rise]

oh, so its only the single core they may be pulling back?

 

[TankGuys]

Originally posted by: rise4310
oh, so its only the single core they may be pulling back?

I'm honestly not sure. I haven't seen any distinction between the two, but the comment came up in reference to 146's. So really, I just don't know yet.

 

[VoteQuimby]

Wow I'm glad I got my order in yesterday to TankGuys. Makes sense to me that they would pull this chip. Originally I was going to purchase the 3700+ which goes for around $230. But for $65 cheaper I can score the 146 and make up the difference in MHz. This has to be harshing their A64 sales.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: rise4310
oh, so its only the single core they may be pulling back?

I'm honestly not sure. I haven't seen any distinction between the two, but the comment came up in reference to 146's. So really, I just don't know yet.

btw, thanks for the heads up TG :thumbsup:

 

[VStrom]

Decisions, decisions...anyone wanna byuy an unused 148?

 

[jazzboy]

To be honest I can see why AMD would do this sort of thing. Although overclocked CPUs make up a small percentage of overall CPU sales, when compared to just workstation and server cpu sales its a big portion. And if enthusiasts are now buying lots of opterons, then it could put more pressure in AMD to produce opterons them in sufficient quantities.

 

[Tu13erhead]

Just ordered a 148 from Newegg, $239 - $100 credit they owe me - $~120 or so for selling my CPU = $20 for an Opteron 148.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Mucker

Originally posted by: CP5670

I picked up the other one that guy was selling, although I didn't get the coupon code. I eventually got sick of trying to determine which online vendor was selling what steppings/weeks based on forum posts, so I figured paying a bit more for a guaranteed one was worth it especially now that the prices are over $200 everywhere else anyway. Hopefully it will be a good one, although I won't be able to use to its full potential on my current motherboard (will get a DFI in a few weeks). In any case, it will be way better than my current ES unit, which is stuck at 2.2ghz at 1.5v.

You won't be dissapointed. These CABYE 0540's are hitting 2.8-3.0 GHz with low voltage. You'll need excellent cooling however, they will get hot....

Good choice on mb, DFI nF4 :thumbsup:

Well, I dont know about the hot part. I am running the same vcore on my 170 as my 3800's and 4400. 1.475 seems to be the magic number. They all are in sonata cases, and all use XP90 HSF's, and the Opteron runs 38c full load on both cores, where the other three run ~48-50c. At the same time, it runs 2600, and the bext I could get out the X2's was 2550. I can get 2650, but I have to raise the vcore a lot, and it just isn't worth it.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Mucker

Originally posted by: CP5670

I picked up the other one that guy was selling, although I didn't get the coupon code. I eventually got sick of trying to determine which online vendor was selling what steppings/weeks based on forum posts, so I figured paying a bit more for a guaranteed one was worth it especially now that the prices are over $200 everywhere else anyway. Hopefully it will be a good one, although I won't be able to use to its full potential on my current motherboard (will get a DFI in a few weeks). In any case, it will be way better than my current ES unit, which is stuck at 2.2ghz at 1.5v.

You won't be dissapointed. These CABYE 0540's are hitting 2.8-3.0 GHz with low voltage. You'll need excellent cooling however, they will get hot....

Good choice on mb, DFI nF4 :thumbsup:

Well, I dont know about the hot part. I am running the same vcore on my 170 as my 3800's and 4400. 1.475 seems to be the magic number. They all are in sonata cases, and all use XP90 HSF's, and the Opteron runs 38c full load on both cores, where the other three run ~48-50c. At the same time, it runs 2600, and the bext I could get out the X2's was 2550. I can get 2650, but I have to raise the vcore a lot, and it just isn't worth it.

Hes talking about single core. Single cores run cool.

 

[chieftang]

Originally posted by: TankGuys
I'm hearing through some sources that AMD is no longer going to be selling the 939 opterons through distribution/retail units anymore. Word is that they don't like these chips being used for anything but servers, so they will ONLY be shipping them directly to System Integrators.

I haven't been able to completely confirm this yet, but I wanted to give you guys a heads up. If you want one of these, and you can find one ANYWHERE (no, I don't have any more available ) then I'd recommend you buy it. Chances are good that you won't see them available anymore.

I'll let you all know when I find out anymore info. As I said, I can't be 100% sure this is true, but it's the rumors I'm hearing from a few suppliers....

Tough to believe because they like making money too. And if they wanted a server only chip then why did they produce the s939 version in the first place? Simple: volume. Perhaps they will slow down production, but I don't believe it'd be because they don't "like" them being used for non-servers. Perhaps yields are dropping or something. Because they like high volume sales. Period.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: chieftang

Originally posted by: TankGuys
I'm hearing through some sources that AMD is no longer going to be selling the 939 opterons through distribution/retail units anymore. Word is that they don't like these chips being used for anything but servers, so they will ONLY be shipping them directly to System Integrators.

I haven't been able to completely confirm this yet, but I wanted to give you guys a heads up. If you want one of these, and you can find one ANYWHERE (no, I don't have any more available ) then I'd recommend you buy it. Chances are good that you won't see them available anymore.

I'll let you all know when I find out anymore info. As I said, I can't be 100% sure this is true, but it's the rumors I'm hearing from a few suppliers....

Tough to believe because they like making money too. And if they wanted a server only chip then why did they produce the s939 version in the first place? Simple: volume. Perhaps they will slow down production, but I don't believe it'd be because they don't "like" them being used for non-servers. Perhaps yields are dropping or something. Because they like high volume sales. Period.

I'd have to agree with this. If they wanted to keep opterons as server cpu's why make them in the 939 verision? Change to a desktop package, sell a bunch of them, then decide they don't want them on the desktop and stop selling them? That would be world class stupid.

 

[trueimage]

lets try and get some confirmation on this. i dont wanna spend the extra on the chip just to see the supply increase in the new year

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: Mucker

Originally posted by: CP5670

I picked up the other one that guy was selling, although I didn't get the coupon code. I eventually got sick of trying to determine which online vendor was selling what steppings/weeks based on forum posts, so I figured paying a bit more for a guaranteed one was worth it especially now that the prices are over $200 everywhere else anyway. Hopefully it will be a good one, although I won't be able to use to its full potential on my current motherboard (will get a DFI in a few weeks). In any case, it will be way better than my current ES unit, which is stuck at 2.2ghz at 1.5v.

You won't be dissapointed. These CABYE 0540's are hitting 2.8-3.0 GHz with low voltage. You'll need excellent cooling however, they will get hot....

Good choice on mb, DFI nF4 :thumbsup:

Yeah, I've read a lot of good things about this stepping/week. I'm not sure exactly how the different FPxW batches compare, but it seems that they aren't any major differences between them. I will try out my current XP90 with its high speed Panaflo and see how far it goes. If that's not enough then I might look into a Ninja or SI-120, although I'll be quite happy if it hits 2.8.

 

[Mucker]

My first 146 CABYE 0536 GPMW hit 2.75 GHz in the blink of an eye, but was bumping on 50C load at that speed (xp-90, AS5) It needed volts too from 2.65 GHz +. Alot of the 0540 FPxW look like they are hitting 2.8 with stock volts. I think 2.7-2.8 is where things start to heat up. I see the same thing with the SD3700 I am currently running. I still may look at a Big Typhoon, but there were some initial problems with the mounting hardware on the DFI nF4. I don't now if they ever solved this...

 

[VStrom]

I went ahead and ordered a Opty 175 from Monarch today...LOL, I haven't even received the 148 I ordered yet (should be here Monday). I guess I'll be selling that one.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: VStrom
I went ahead and ordered a Opty 175 from Monarch today...LOL, I haven't even received the 148 I ordered yet (should be here Monday). I guess I'll be selling that one.

You'll be on the couch tonight buddy! Hope it oces well for you.

 

[mamisano]

The main Reason Opty went to 939 was for the Workstation market, where AMD was falling behind due to lack of 940 support in that area.

Could it be that AMD will be Discontinuing the single core Optys in favor of dual core? They can command a higher premium on those parts.

 

[IfReborn]

next we will no longer be able to overclock cpu's. This will happen some time next year when some one in the head office realizes how much money they are loosing as a direct result of overclocking :/

it is so true too if you think about it. As they become more and more financially commercially successful they will depend less and less on the ?do it your selfers? and stick it to the same customer base that helped make them.

Just the way of the Cooperate world