Honestly don't let reality encroach on this nonsense. Much like TSLA, Ron Paul and other randomly-popular topics, there's a circle of followers that simply don't need facts to subscribe.
Clearly a guy with very shady background that just came up with the most world changing invention ever, is only willing to let 3rd string barely-physics academics non-independently evaluate it, yet ready and willing to sell it to anyone for $$$MILLION$$$ is bound to be real.
A.R. only trusts these people for now. He has no patent or technology protection. He's has been deeply burned in the past by the system...
His behavior makes total sense to me. I would not give up a fountain of youth pill for free; rather I'd make all of you my slaves...Sorry
Do you even realize how retarded what you wrote sounds?
Top 20 pharma drugs pull in $300+B annually in the US alone, and they're on a 15 year patent life cycles. Their only recourse for their respective creators is the patent system, anyone can take a pill to a lab and see what's in it. Yet somehow Lipitor is still bringing in truckloads of cash for Pfizer... but hey I guess Pfizer never got "burned by the system", right?
You're either the most dedicated troll on this planet, or either have aspergers or 2 digit IQ.
Seriously, have you ever been diagnosed with any autism spectrum disorder or similar learning disability? If so, I apologize for my previous hashness.
The main problem is that most of the LENR based claims are automatically rejected by the USPTO. Also, the energy production is a very sensitive sector. It's tricky. People and countries go to war over energy and energy security. I can tell you than most of the entities using the Ecat system would elect to not pay any royalties to A.R. unless absolutely forced to. Your sorry ass patent is not enough.
As for the rest of your post, I won't comment on it. You just don't get it. Maybe I don't get it either but I am not attempting to troll anyone.
If this technology does indeed work as claimed why wouldn't Rossi arrange a test of the E-cat at an advanced academic setting, say MIT or another university of high academic standards, he need not reveal what his secret "catalyst" is, just bring one over here and let it be tested, if indeed MIT tested this device and verified that it did in fact produce more energy then was put into it (the resistive heating coils) then the debate would be over, measuring a device's energy output is a fairly straightforward affair and this new "discovery" could be verified for all to see..
And the same with all the others. Professors, unpublished, no research backgrounds. Just basically teachers.
And, at the same time, you don't realize that he's "sold" it to a firm in China, a country not known to really care about patents. You've gone full retard.The main problem is that most of the LENR based claims are automatically rejected by the USPTO. Also, the energy production is a very sensitive sector. It's tricky. People and countries go to war over energy and energy security. I can tell you than most of the entities using the Ecat system would elect to not pay any royalties to A.R. unless absolutely forced to. Your sorry ass patent is not enough.
As for the rest of your post, I won't comment on it. You just don't get it. Maybe I don't get it either but I am not attempting to troll anyone.
And, at the same time, you don't realize that he's "sold" it to a firm in China, a country not known to really care about patents. You've gone full retard.
A.R. only trusts these people for now. He has no patent or technology protection. He's has been deeply burned in the past by the system...
His behavior makes total sense to me. I would not give up a fountain of youth pill for free; rather I'd make all of you my slaves...Sorry
And all of that would have been done years ago if it actually worked, because that is the only way for it to gain mass acceptance. Instead he's hiding in dark corners and passing out aluminum foil hats along with his newsletters.
Is this thread still here? What a colossal waste of time. Oh also the plane on a treadmill does not take off. Not unless Ahnold Schwartzenhoofah comes along and tells it to get off the treadmill and get in ze choppah. Then it takes off.
Gizmodo seems to think Industrial Heat is in North Carolina and not China.
http://gizmodo.com/a-u-s-company-bought-the-rights-to-this-dubious-cold-f-1508731448?rev=1390658643
Which reminds me, Rossi has been convicted of tax fraud and has had two previous companies which were purported to produce miracle technology which produced nothing, failed and went bust. Hell, Italy claims that one of his companies was dumping toxic waste. How the hell does a guy like this find anyone to give him money?
It's like one of those things that was forecast to die a long time ago, but alas, it's still here!
Time to break out the wrecking ball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBTK624gepk
I find this explanation perfect.
from
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgib...ment_blogAndPostId/blog/comment/1337-970-1822
I’m not a geologist or physicist but I am an astrophysicist with a professional interest in nucleosynthesis.
All the elements on the periodic table you saw on the wall in high school chemistry, other than hydrogen and some of the helium, and a tiny amount of lithium, were manufactured by fusion processes in stars. A majority of stars, referred to as main sequence stars such as the sun, are happily fusing hydrogen (H) to helium (He) and releasing huge amounts of energy. They do this for most of their lives. It takes 4 hydrogens to produce 1 helium. If you looked at the atomic masses on those chemistry classroom walls, you would see that a He is 0.7% less massive than 4xH. This missing mass, which is referred to as binding energy, is where the energy that powers the universe comes from via Einstein’s famous equation. The binding energy of atomic nuclei decreases from H to Fe and then increases from Fe (and one Ni isotope) to uranium and beyond.
The problem with Mr Rossi’s e-cat is that fusion only produces energy for elements up to iron (Fe). This is because the mass of elements from from H to Fe is less than the total mass of the lighter elements fused to synthesize them. When stars start producing iron in their cores, their life is over as there are no more energy producing fusion reactions that can take place.
So, you might ask, where do the other elements – cobalt and beyond – come from? The answer is, during the dramatic collapse that occurs when the core stops producing energy in the seconds after iron synthesis begins, the gravitational potential energy of the star is released causing the the internal temperature of the star to spike to hundreds of millions of kelvins and all the heavy elements are produced and then blown out into space in the supernova explosion that ends the stars life. Heavy element synthesis requires energy input! The heavier the element, the more rare it is. Of course heavy elements can produce energy by fission where the reaction products are lighter than the starting nucleus, which is how all nuclear energy on earth is currently produced.
Now to the question of how copper (Cu) is made in nature. it happens in supernova explosions and require a huge energy input. Cu has 29 protons and either 34 or 36 neutrons. It has an standard mass of 63.546 atomic mass units (amu). Nickel has 28 protons and 30, 32, 33, 34 or 36 neutrons with an standard mass of 58.6394 amu. Also, hydrogen has one proton and either 0, 1 or 2 neutrons and an standard mass of 1.00794 amu. So depending on the isotopes involved, Ni can be fused with 1 to 9 H to make Cu. If you do the calculations for the 9 possible fusion reactions to produce Cu from Ni and H, you come up 0.05 amu short. This small mass deficit is made up by the energy input to the reaction to make it run. To put this into perspective, the fusion reaction for 58.6394 grams of nickel plus 4.857g of H to get 63.546g of copper needs an extra 0.05g of energy. Using E=mc^2, the energy requirement is about 4.49 terajoules which is 250 megawatts of power input.
There is no energy output in making copper from nickel. That is of course unless Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Enrico Fermi, Erwin Schrodinger, Richard Feynman and others are wrong and Rossi is right. When Einstein said Newton was wrong about gravity, he was courteous enough to publish a paper in 1905 pointing out the problems with Newtonian gravity and how General Relativity addressed them. Rossi is essentially declaring Quantum Theory and Special Relativity incorrect and has provided nothing to explain why. In a Rossi universe, everything would be uranium or heavier elements as the physical laws as we understand them would not apply.
I do not approve of intellectual dishonesty.
Recently Australian entrepreneur Dick Smith offerred Andrea Rossi $1,000,000 if he could prove that Rossi’s Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat) cold fusion (or Low Energy Nuclear Reaction) system actually works as claimed. Rossi immediately turned down the challenge.
really guys, let it die. if next year we get flying cars and robot g/f, you can call me an idiot.seriously, is this still alive?
This is a classic italian swindle that exploits the antiscience people.
Stamina is the most recent one and it's going to end soon with people in prison.
In this case, it was a philosophy professor who claimed to have invented a cure to SLA and similar illnesses with staminal cells.
Rossi is a philosophy graduate as well.
Rossi is known for an older swindle where he claimed he could produce petroelum from waste (Petroldragon), and resulted in a bunch of toxic waste being left around. The companies involved paid some money in reparations but the waste is still there, Petroldragon failed and Rossi is out of prison only because he hasn't finished his appeals yet (italian justice is very slow) and fraudolent bankruptcy and similar financial crimes aren't persecuted seriously in Italy.
He's behaving exactly like Vannoni (the stamina guy), evading real scientific verifications that would expose the swindle but wanting to get people or the state to invest money at the same time by exploiting the ignorance that runs rampant in Italy.
Here is a small screen cap from a recent presentation done by this little known organization called NASA about Cold Fusion powered aircrafts. "Nothing to see here, just move along, move along".
https://connect.arc.nasa.gov/p1zygzm2h3i/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal
But hey, I'll better listen to what ATOT has to say...
I still maintain you may be retarded. Earlier in the this very thread people linked to academic conferences regarding LENR; this is a field that is and has been studied by physicists.
The only difference is that the actual physicists write papers and patent working ideas, where as scammers make claims and sell black boxes for $1M a pop.