Possibly the most important science breakthrough happened today (not really)

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Rossi has been granted US patent:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...2015+AND+lithium&RS=(ISD/20150825+AND+lithium)

The Industrial Heat (aka 2 billion dollars Cherokee Investment Partners VC http://cherokeefund.com/) who owns the ECAT tech has filed an international patent application here:

ENERGY-PRODUCING REACTION DEVICES, SYSTEMS AND RELATED METHODS
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search...=&sortOption=&queryString=&tab=PCTDescription

The objective summary of recent developments can be read on the "Math Druge" here
http://experimentalmath.info/blog/2015/08/cold-fusion-heats-up-fusion-energy-and-lenr-update/

and now, also on the Huffington:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-h-bailey/post_10010_b_8052326.html

Keep denying, please...but the elephant in the room is getting bigger and bigger, almost the size of the Woolly mammoth now LOL.

Enjoy

Yeah, patents don't mean jack shit. You can literally patent shit that doesn't exist and you have no intention of making. Plus, um, weren't you using the arguments that he obviously wouldn't get patents because he wouldn't want people stealing his design/idea?

Anyone wanna wade through to see if there's actually anything new or if adlep is once again just posting blather articles that are just about the same shit, just months later, and acting like somehow that ups the validity? From what I can tell scanning those two later links they're not.

Seriously that last and 2nd to last article are the same fucking thing, written by the same fucking people. And its about more than Rossi. Their little bit about him is just the same shit (citing that horrible test from months back, that we've already covered is entirely flawed) with a mention about the patent. Big fucking whoop.
 

smackababy

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I am glad this thread exists. Every time it gets bumped and more of this silliness is brought forth, I smile.
 

Ichinisan

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Hehe..
I am still around.
Rossi got a patent and this interesting article came along:

https://aeon.co/essays/why-do-scientists-dismiss-the-possibility-of-cold-fusion

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a18673/cold-fusion-essay/

IMO, this will ultimately work and if it will, all of our institutions will have to be reformed (education and government)...
Too little too late.
Didn't you say...

Listen, each story has a conclusion. Once this one plays out and the end result will lead to a fraud, I'll be the FIRST one to apologize and nail myself to a cross. I'll need 12 more months. How about that?

Lets up the ante:

I am willing to bet with each of you $100.00 paid via pp that this technology is real and it will get validated and accepted this year. I am guessing that we will start to hear mainstream media stories about this very soon. Who is in?
Lets exchange heat afterwards...

Quoted by NASA

"Soon"...I gave my word, till the end of this year. I am expecting "We interrupt this program.." type of a message for the masses. And then what?
Rather than calling me an idiot, can we suppose that I am right with calling it? What kind of consequence of such an new energy technology would be?
common work with me here for a sec:
Fire away:
 
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adlep

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The technology is still being validated. The test of the prototype 1MW factory will end by March. It runs every day and it has been producing useful output for 10 months by now.

"I would like to say how truly sorry I am that society has attacked you for the last three decades. The treatment of Fleischmann and Pons, and the treatment of many of you, by mainstream institutions and the media will go down in history as one more example of scientific infanticide, where entrenched interests kill off their divergent progeny. This seems to be a dark component of human nature, and I note the irony of it – we are in Padova, Galileo’s home."
 

CZroe

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IMO, this will ultimately work and if it will, all of our institutions will have to be reformed (education and government)...

Too little too late.


Opinions are worthless in science.

Welcome back though.
 

Ichinisan

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The technology is still being validated. The test of the prototype 1MW factory will end by March. It runs every day and it has been producing useful output for 10 months by now.

"I would like to say how truly sorry I am that society has attacked you for the last three decades. The treatment of Fleischmann and Pons, and the treatment of many of you, by mainstream institutions and the media will go down in history as one more example of scientific infanticide, where entrenched interests kill off their divergent progeny. This seems to be a dark component of human nature, and I note the irony of it – we are in Padova, Galileo’s home."

If it turns out to be legit, how strange would that be?! A convicted fraudster!
 

Ruptga

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The prototype factory is working and producing heat/useful output.

Updates from the man himself here:
http://www.rossilivecat.com/

Read the book abt Rossi here:
http://animpossibleinvention.com/

All of the people criticizing Rossi in here are wrong

You boarded this hype train 4 years ago, and 2 years later you asked for just one more year to see everything borne out. It's been a full year since that deadline passed, and all we have is the usual hot air and empty promises. You're a dupe and/or a troll and you don't even have enough integrity to stand by your word. It's pathetic.
 

PowerEngineer

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adlep, welcome to 2015!

No validation or acceptance of E-CAT "technology" in 2014. No mainstream media stories either. Thankfully, I don't think any of us wanted to take advantage of your overoptimistic expectations.



You've been doggedly predicting for more than three years that proof of Rossi's "technology" was "right around the corner", but no convincing proof has ever been presented. It's past time to reassess your blind faith in Rossi and his E-CAT (and time to lock this thread).

Rather than "exchange heat", let's exchange best wishes for the new year.

adlep, welcome to 2016! (or thereabouts)

Still no validation or acceptance of E-CAT "technology" in 2015. No mainstream media stories either.

You've been doggedly predicting for more than four years that proof of Rossi's "technology" was "right around the corner", but no convincing proof has ever been presented. It's way past time to reassess your blind faith in Rossi and his E-CAT (and time to lock this thread).

How about a new year's resolution to recognize that if (really when) Rossi fails yet again to deliver scientific proof that his E-CAT works in 2016, that you acknowledge that there is no real science backing up Rossi's claims.

I would love to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Chicago fans have a better chance of eventually being vindicated by the Cubs than you have of ever being vindicated by Rossi.

Best wishes for the new year anyway!
 
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I've seen this thread occasionally pop up over the years. Could someone explain why being optimistic about this is different than being optimistic about that potential new space drive (the one that seems to produce more thrust than possible thats still being tested)

**Is this Rossi guy only giving the plan on how to build one to people who pay?**
 

Ichinisan

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I've seen this thread occasionally pop up over the years. Could someone explain why being optimistic about this is different than being optimistic about that potential new space drive (the one that seems to produce more thrust than possible thats still being tested)

**Is this Rossi guy only giving the plan on how to build one to people who pay?**

They aren't hiding anything with the space drive and the anomalous thrust. They're detailing the test conditions precisely. They aren't claiming to understand how it works. Since we don't understand why it produces thrust, it might not even work away from the influence of Earth's magnetic field...and they haven't claimed that it would.

Rossi refuses to reveal important things about his testing. He's also a convicted fraudster.
 
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They aren't hiding anything with the space drive and the anomalous thrust. They're detailing the test conditions precisely. They aren't claiming to understand how it works. Since we don't understand why it produces thrust, it might not even work away from the influence of Earth's magnetic field...and they haven't claimed that it would.

Rossi refuses to reveal important things about his testing. He's also a convicted fraudster.

Thanks
 

sdifox

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I've seen this thread occasionally pop up over the years. Could someone explain why being optimistic about this is different than being optimistic about that potential new space drive (the one that seems to produce more thrust than possible thats still being tested)

**Is this Rossi guy only giving the plan on how to build one to people who pay?**

Cuz this breaks physics
 

zinfamous

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failed to repeat Rossi's findings by independent investigators 4 years out.

Rossi is a fraud.

OP is a maroon....and he owes us all $100 each, with 1 year's past-due interest.
 
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