Post pics of your setup!

[alkemyst]

man some nice gear, but you guys need to spend some on getting a decent room. I am willing to bet that top end gear sounds worse than junk bin items in those room setups.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Rubycon
nvm video is fubar'd

It worked when I tried it the first time

Really? It would play 1 second and stop here. Stupid connection and youtube is acting up again! We had the subs turned up and dust was staying airborne in the wavefronts. I actually got a headache from that. I need a SPL meter that goes higher than 140dB too.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
man some nice gear, but you guys need to spend some on getting a decent room. I am willing to bet that top end gear sounds worse than junk bin items in those room setups.

Not necessarily, while a better room would improve the sound certainly, I know I have done quite a bit of work optimizing speaker position within the room. If you work diligently and have decent software and microphone, (and free time), it is possible to minimize room acoustic problems.

Placing the listening position at 0.38 of the room's length does a huge amount to minimize modal problems at the listening position. Speaker toe-in can help tremendously with minimizing first reflection off side-walls. Keeping speakers 3'+ away from side walls and the front wall helps greatly in minimizing SBIR associated with those walls. Finally, placing speakers at non 1/4 dimensions of the room helps to smoothen the response.

Is it perfect? Hell no, far from it! Is it enjoyable? Hell yes!

Does junk bin items sound better than what I currently have? No, not in this room especially after I have meticulously set everything up properly. Can junk bin items be made to sound their best using careful setup? Yes!

So, I agree, your point is applicable to people who just toss their equipment in and pick their listening position poorly. However, once care is put into the placement of equipment, don't underestimate the value of proper placement .

Proper placement costs nothing and yields excellent results. While getting a proper room is certainly very worthwhile, you cannot beat the price/performance ratio of proper placement [and as a college student price/performance is key ]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Really? It would play 1 second and stop here. Stupid connection and youtube is acting up again! We had the subs turned up and dust was staying airborne in the wavefronts. I actually got a headache from that. I need a SPL meter that goes higher than 140dB too.

LOL!

Although no hearing protection that I know of would keep your ears from getting some sort of damage at >140dB.

 

[Rubycon]

Hearing protection really isn't the issue with lower frequencies. One has to worry about concussions from their brain banging into their skull.

Back in May I killed a workstation when a bass hit ripped the PCI-E cards right out of the slots. Systems don't like that much. :laugh:

The nice thing is I don't have to worry about building integrity - a steel ship is very strong. Things will rattle and I used to pop lights all the time but now the bulbs are clipped down. Sometimes a tube will snap from vibration though.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
Hearing protection really isn't the issue with lower frequencies. One has to worry about concussions from their brain banging into their skull.

Back in May I killed a workstation when a bass hit ripped the PCI-E cards right out of the slots. Systems don't like that much. :laugh:

The nice thing is I don't have to worry about building integrity - a steel ship is very strong. Things will rattle and I used to pop lights all the time but now the bulbs are clipped down. Sometimes a tube will snap from vibration though.

lol, too bad, i've only experienced 120dB bass (pants flapping, feels like my heart is getting its beats reassigned). Mere childs play compared to what you have going on.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Rubycon
nvm video is fubar'd

It worked when I tried it the first time

Really? It would play 1 second and stop here. Stupid connection and youtube is acting up again! We had the subs turned up and dust was staying airborne in the wavefronts. I actually got a headache from that. I need a SPL meter that goes higher than 140dB too.

Yeah, it showed all the connections in back and then went around to the front to show all the pretty lights

 

[TVNoob]

Lots of help on these forums on the choice and setup I have, so thanks & here are some pictures!

Sharp Aquos 52 inch LCD TV - LC-52GX4W

http://www.sharp-world.com/corporate/news/070702.html

Sony HT-SF2000 sound system

http://www.sonystyle.com/webap...Id=8198552921665238643


Room

Front

Back

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Lots of help on these forums on the choice and setup I have, so thanks & here are some pictures!

Sharp Aquos 52 inch LCD TV - LC-52GX4W

http://www.sharp-world.com/corporate/news/070702.html

Sony HT-SF2000 sound system

http://www.sonystyle.com/webap...Id=8198552921665238643


Room

Front

Back

Where you gonna put that picture thats on the floor by the door

BTW, nice TV

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Lots of help on these forums on the choice and setup I have, so thanks & here are some pictures!

Sharp Aquos 52 inch LCD TV - LC-52GX4W

http://www.sharp-world.com/corporate/news/070702.html

Sony HT-SF2000 sound system

http://www.sonystyle.com/webap...Id=8198552921665238643


Room

Front

Back

If possible get a real subwoofer, make the other tenants happy!

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Lots of help on these forums on the choice and setup I have, so thanks & here are some pictures!

Sharp Aquos 52 inch LCD TV - LC-52GX4W

http://www.sharp-world.com/corporate/news/070702.html

Sony HT-SF2000 sound system

http://www.sonystyle.com/webap...Id=8198552921665238643


Room

Front

Back

Nice set up, but where is the rest of your living room?

I take it you live in an expensive city?

 

[TVNoob]

Hehe thanks for the comments. My living room is long and thin, the TV is in one half and the PC & table is in the other half (where I stood to take the picture). My PC is connected with DMI & digital coax cables to the TV and decoder/receiver.... that is where I play all the content from.

I live in Tokyo, so you could say it is an expensive city.

I will consider upgrading the sound sometime I guess - there isn't too much "warmth" from those Sony speakers, the sound is there and clear but it doesn't seem to fill the space as I hoped it would.... maybe I just need to shed my inhibitions and crank the volume up a bit

As for that picture - good point - it was going to hang where the TV is.... until I decided to buy and buy a TV!

My next purchase is the final step in this system - a new (80 USD lol) CPU on my PC so I can play 1080p without the occassional stutters I see at the moment in fast moving content...

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Hehe thanks for the comments. My living room is long and thin, the TV is in one half and the PC & table is in the other half (where I stood to take the picture). My PC is connected with DMI & digital coax cables to the TV and decoder/receiver.... that is where I play all the content from.

I live in Tokyo, so you could say it is an expensive city.

I will consider upgrading the sound sometime I guess - there isn't too much "warmth" from those Sony speakers, the sound is there and clear but it doesn't seem to fill the space as I hoped it would.... maybe I just need to shed my inhibitions and crank the volume up a bit

As for that picture - good point - it was going to hang where the TV is.... until I decided to buy and buy a TV!

My next purchase is the final step in this system - a new (80 USD lol) CPU on my PC so I can play 1080p without the occassional stutters I see at the moment in fast moving content...

You may want to check-in at General Hardware forums here at AT to see if just changing out the CPU will grant you that. I'm under the impression that perhaps GPU might have to be involved as well...

 

[TVNoob]

I have a Nvidia 8800 GT, which is pretty much top of the range... it has onboard decoding for HD video. For every 720p title I've watched it has been perfect... but for a couple of 1080p movies/documentaries hit 100% CPU occassionally and I get a jerky playback.

My CPU is only an Athlon 1800 GHz, not even dual core... pretty old so switching it out for a quicker dualcore model shoudl solve it I think.

On the upside, I found an AFD button on the audio remote and it seems to switch between 2.1, Dolby Digital and other systems.... now the sound is much better... By using all 4 of the surround speakers it's much more immersive now! just have to find out what all the modes mean, Multi St vs Dolby PL vs PL2 II MV vs AF2 Auto...

 

[montypythizzle]

With a DVD it should pass a DD signal, a light will come up on your receiver and play properly when in Auto Decode. Make sure your DVD player or HTPC is set to pass the DD stream.

 

[TVNoob]

Cheers.. that makes sense... Been experimenting now with a few different streams from different sources (real DVDs, downloaded DD5.1/DTS films, internet radio etc) and checking what happens.

Seems "A.F.D Auto" sounds like what I should select, but it doesn't seem to pick up when DD5.1 or DTS is being fed in (through the digital co-ax). When I use the A.F.D. button to change to Dolby Digital PL it lights up all 6 speakers and starts using them.

Never seems to have an option for DTS.. even though it's definitely DTS compatible.

Hmmm.. wish I had an English instruction book!

 

[TVNoob]

Seems the problem was on my AC3Filter.... I ticked "disallow PCM output in SPDIF mode" and now it is passing through SPDIF output correctly.... now no noises my PC makes (MSN Messenger new message, email coming in, mp3s) are sent through to the receiver....

Instead the encoded audio stream gets shunted out of the digital coax lead and the normal PC noises go out to my PC speakers - perfect!!!!!

Thinking back, I remember YOyoYOhowsDAjello mentioning encoded streams were just passed through and my sound card wasn't capable of encoding DD5.1 output... this brings it sharply in focus, along with the cool FAQ on the AC3Filter forum

http://ac3filter.net/forum/vie...&postorder=asc&start=0

Now it's time to go and re-watch some films play sound properly and see how they sound!!!!!!

EDIT: Damn, seems my sound card doesn't support DTS passthrough.... only DD. Waaaaaa

EDIT x2 : Yippeeeee a new driver updated fixed it! DD5.1 and everything playing ok now.... strange the driver on Asus website is not up to date, as the one on Realtek's website is much more recent and properly supports DTS.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Athlon 1800 GHz

:shocked:

 

[TVNoob]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Athlon 1800 GHz

:shocked:

It's 3 years (well 2 years 11 months) since I built the PC, definitely time to upgrade

Just ordered a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ DualCore which should be a nice speed boost, bargain for about 70 USD!

I think I meant 1.8 GHz ;-)

 

[nsafreak]

This fell off the front page but thank goodness search found it.

Here are a pair of pics of mine:

Picture 1
Picture 2

Components:

H/K AVR-230
Sharp MD-R3 3 CD Changer & Minidisc deck
Panasonic DMR-ES15 DVD Recorder
Motorola 3412 HD DVR
Xbox 360 with HD DVD add on
Xbox original (soon to be replaced by a HTPC)
Samsung 42" DLP (I forget the model number but its a fairly recent one with 2 HDMI inputs)
Sony SS-BM3000 fronts
Cerwin Vega V-3C center
KLH rears
Paradigm PDR-10 subwoofer

 

[iRONic]

bbzzdd no werky;


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[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: TVNoob

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Athlon 1800 GHz

:shocked:

It's 3 years (well 2 years 11 months) since I built the PC, definitely time to upgrade

Just ordered a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ DualCore which should be a nice speed boost, bargain for about 70 USD!

I think I meant 1.8 GHz ;-)

LOL, I am still running my Socket A AMD Athlon 1800+ with Radeon 9800pro as my main computer and still runs CS:S at 1920x1080 Office fine

 

[iRONic]

Updated

Harmony 880
SA8300HD DVR
Toshiba HD-A2 DVD
Technics SL-7 Turntable
Onkyo TX-SR805 Receiver
Sony CDP CX-200 CD Jukebox
Samsung HL-S5087W 50" 1080p DLP HDTV

Klipsch KSW-10 - Sub
Klipsch RC-25 - Center
Klipsch Heresy II - Fronts
Klipsch Promedia 5.1 Ultra - Rears

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: iRONic
Updated

Harmony 880
SA8300HD DVR
Toshiba HD-A2 DVD
Technics SL-7 Turntable
Onkyo TX-SR805 Receiver
Sony CDP CX-200 CD Jukebox
Samsung HL-S5087W 50" 1080p DLP HDTV

Klipsch KSW-10 - Sub
Klipsch RC-25 - Center
Klipsch Heresy II - Fronts
Klipsch Promedia 5.1 Ultra - Rears

Nice!

Now that you have had more time with the system as it is arranged, have you felt that the RC25 center channel doesn't quite cut it compared to the heresy II? Or does it work out OK?

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Tiamat

Originally posted by: TVNoob

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: TVNoob
Athlon 1800 GHz

:shocked:

It's 3 years (well 2 years 11 months) since I built the PC, definitely time to upgrade

Just ordered a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ DualCore which should be a nice speed boost, bargain for about 70 USD!

I think I meant 1.8 GHz ;-)

LOL, I am still running my Socket A AMD Athlon 1800+ with Radeon 9800pro as my main computer and still runs CS:S at 1920x1080 Office fine

I am still running my original Athlon 700, but it's been relegated to torrent.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: Tiamat

Originally posted by: iRONic
Updated

Harmony 880
SA8300HD DVR
Toshiba HD-A2 DVD
Technics SL-7 Turntable
Onkyo TX-SR805 Receiver
Sony CDP CX-200 CD Jukebox
Samsung HL-S5087W 50" 1080p DLP HDTV

Klipsch KSW-10 - Sub
Klipsch RC-25 - Center
Klipsch Heresy II - Fronts
Klipsch Promedia 5.1 Ultra - Rears

Nice!

Now that you have had more time with the system as it is arranged, have you felt that the RC25 center channel doesn't quite cut it compared to the heresy II? Or does it work out OK?

Thanks.

The RC25 is fine with the Heresy II's. It will be even finer once I get a solid Audyssey tweaking finished. I have a bad cable, wrong setting, or dead Pre Out chan to my sub. Doing some troubleshooting.