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007ELmO

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you won't even be able to get rid of something that big (i.e. garbage pickup), i'm more of a minimalist though but to each their own!

i've learned i reorganize my house every couple years until something seems to fit right, i.e. different furniture/etc.
 

Golgatha

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Old speakers - Klipsch Synergy series circa 2003-2004. 10in powered Klipsch Synergy series sub (not shown).


New Setup - Klipsch Reference RF-600, RC-500, RS-400, and a SVS SB13-Ultra subwoofer. Sony STR-DN1040 Receiver, which is not as new as the new speakers, but I did get it for myself this last (2013) Christmas.

You can't see them in the pictures, but I do have roll-down blackout material shades for that huge bank of windows, which are parallel with my entertainment center. Eastern facing wall makes TV viewing impossible without them.











 
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tential

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it fits (just barely)


I wish I had known about your speakers/more people knew. If I had gone the DIY route from the start I'd be a very happy camper. I instead thought I had to pay 1000s to get quality. I'm happy with my Polk Monitor 70s but the Fusion Tempests are nice and the new Fusion 1099s are a must have for me. I'll love em, but neighbors won't.
 

alkemyst

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I wish I had known about your speakers/more people knew. If I had gone the DIY route from the start I'd be a very happy camper. I instead thought I had to pay 1000s to get quality. I'm happy with my Polk Monitor 70s but the Fusion Tempests are nice and the new Fusion 1099s are a must have for me. I'll love em, but neighbors won't.

In reality, most DIY routes end horribly.

If you thought you had to spend $1000's and ended with just Polks, you probably didn't do your due diligence.

One also has to keep in mind room volume and the like. I have seen most spend way beyond (and even more way below) what they really need. Fortunately, ignorance is blind.

Back in 1995, I bought a system that was into 5 figures deep (please OT members keep your riff-raff out; cost is RELEVANT!).

I entered a divorce and lost my Definitive Technology setup with Rotel amps and all that.

I ended up with a pre-owned Klipsch Quartet/Academy, Yamaha RX-V1050, PSB-200 set up in 1997. Lost my Mitsubishi 35" (with a corian top like that was important ) and picked up a Toshiba 32" with a better picture quality.

I sold that Academy off around 1999 because it was too big for the apartment I ended up in eventually (with original box and manual). One of my biggest Audio mistakes ever as 5 years or so later the price to replace that speaker was 4 figures alone.

My current setup is the same Quartets and another Academy (upgraded to better X-overs and titanium diaphragms), some SS-25's and a Emotiva Ultra-12 sub powered and/or controlled by a simple Yamaha HTR-5960. I am getting ready to update that receiver to HDMI since now I have gaming consoles in the home and LCD TV's.
 

Anubis

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define most? because every person who I know who has gone the DIY/AIY route has had great success

tential the 1099 looks like a real winner if you can get past the blue/purple woofers which many hate

actually all of the designs coming out of the SEOS project are pretty amazing, ive built 4 different pairs, and i have 3 of the 15" horns just sitting here waiting for me to do something with them

lastest have been 2 of the coaxials, and these things are pretty nuts for ~150$



also 2 of the anarchy taped horns, that are waiting for it to be warmer so i can finish them
 

alkemyst

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define most? because every person who I know who has gone the DIY/AIY route has had great success

That's really great!

I'd love to see all those projects completed and the rooms they ended up in.

Please share.
 

007ELmO

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can someone here help me with infinite baffle subwoofer array? i need to build it into my theater stage.
 

alkemyst

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Added details to the original post.

Pretty cool upgrade, I love Klipsch. Even got my dad to go with Chorus and an Academy after hearing my Quartet Setup.

My brother went the Definitive Tech route (BP8s originally) and just snagged Polk RTi 12's and the CSi5 center) which was a great upgrade for him.

I have debated upgrading, but every time I shop I have to wonder am I really going to improve over what I have already. The Emotiva Ultra 12 sub is the only thing I think I can go a little deeper in range with something better. I got it for a steal in one of their sales.
 

vi edit

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also 2 of the anarchy taped horns, that are waiting for it to be warmer so i can finish them http://www.rootminus1.com/admin/AVS/...223_193515.jpg

Oooh. Interested to hear your feedback on this. Those little guys are intriging, especially for the cost. Have some obvious skepticsm on their output due to the small size of the drivers, but loaded horns do some crazy things to small speakers.

Let us know what you think.
 

tential

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define most? because every person who I know who has gone the DIY/AIY route has had great success

tential the 1099 looks like a real winner if you can get past the blue/purple woofers which many hate

actually all of the designs coming out of the SEOS project are pretty amazing, ive built 4 different pairs, and i have 3 of the 15" horns just sitting here waiting for me to do something with them

lastest have been 2 of the coaxials, and these things are pretty nuts for ~150$



also 2 of the anarchy taped horns, that are waiting for it to be warmer so i can finish them

That's why I didn't reply. AVSforum and partsexpress have tons of documented builds and the SEOS project has been going very well.

That's actually PERFECT that you just built those coaxials. I have 0 clue what to do with a PCB as I'm more of an assemble it yourself person. Any help as to what I'm supposed to do? I want the 10 inch sealed version. For $133 shipped each that's a steal. 94 db sensitivity with 400 RMS power handling (And from what I've been reading they're really conservative on their RMS power handling. Just reading on tux's 1099 explanation of why he chose his 400 RMS and then reading Mark Seaton's replies that speaker has to be a beast I wish I could afford it now!) in a small 10 inch cube? Can't wait to put them up against my Polk Monitor 70s. Was going to get the Fusion 6, but I want something with higher sensitivity than my Polk Monitor 70s. Also the fact that they're 10 inch cubes makes me want to build em as I have some good ideas as to how I can make them blend into my room perfectly. They'll hold me over til I can afford to build the 1099s. There are so many more speaker designs that are being finished within the next 2 months so I'm very interested.

You're making me jealous now with those volts and that anarchy build
 

Anubis

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the PCB is pretty self explaniatory, its for the corssover, and there are only like 5 or 6 compnents for it,, you just need a soldering iron, its printed on it where each one goes, and if you still need help you could just send it to me and id do it and send it back.

i have not heard the 10- but the 8 is no joke, after the xover tweek to bring the high end up a bit its will run just about anything from 80Hz on up. We compaired them to the JTR S8 and a the Beyma Coaxial at the last G2G and there is not that much of a difference, and for the price a better deal on a surround or height would be had to find.

we hooked the V8 up to a to a XLX2K i think, might have been larger but they can take a TON of power
 
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iRONic

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Oooh. Interested to hear your feedback on this. Those little guys are intriging, especially for the cost. Have some obvious skepticsm on their output due to the small size of the drivers, but loaded horns do some crazy things to small speakers.

Let us know what you think.
Yep, I've got fully horn loaded mains and they're great.

I'm looking to build one of the ATHs this summer.
 

tential

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the PCB is pretty self explaniatory, its for the corssover, and there are only like 5 or 6 compnents for it,, you just need a soldering iron, its printed on it where each one goes, and if you still need help you could just send it to me and id do it and send it back.

i have not heard the 10- but the 8 is no joke, after the xover tweek to bring the high end up a bit its will run just about anything from 80Hz on up. We compaired them to the JTR S8 and a the Beyma Coaxial at the last G2G and there is not that much of a difference, and for the price a better deal on a surround or height would be had to find.

we hooked the V8 up to a to a XLX2K i think, might have been larger but they can take a TON of power

Haven't heard of the Crossover Tweek to bring the highend up a bit. The 8 and 10 are listed at the same price so I think I'll just get the 10. The 8 ported and the 10 sealed use the same box. There isn't much of a difference (8 gets a little bit lower due to ports and 10 has 1 DB of sensitivity more than the 8s) but they're just discussing this over at AVSforum and you'd be hard pressed to find the difference.

I hadn't heard that they'd been tested vs the JTR S8. That's close to a $1k price difference in speakers. What other speakers did you guys have there to look at?

Like I said before, it's really amazing what the DIY community has done in terms of bringing high quality performance to price ranges that anyone can afford. I'll have to take that crossover build into consideration but I'd really like to attempt it myself. I just am an electrical newbie but I really want to learn!

@Vi edit
I don't know the theory at all/science behind such a design so I've been interested to see how it works out for people.

@Ironic
On a forum where most people built their own PCs to save cash and get exactly what they want it's insanely surprising that you wouldn't look at other things to see if it's possible to do it yourself as well. The retail markup on many speakers is simply astounding.
I'm honestly surprised more people in the DIY community didn't start their own speaker companies or get hired by one.
 

iRONic

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@Ironic
On a forum where most people built their own PCs to save cash and get exactly what they want it's insanely surprising that you wouldn't look at other things to see if it's possible to do it yourself as well. The retail markup on many speakers is simply astounding.
I'm honestly surprised more people in the DIY community didn't start their own speaker companies or get hired by one.
Join the Klipsch forums. There's several cats over there who have developed cottage industries for speakers, crossovers, tube amps, etc.
 

Anubis

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Haven't heard of the Crossover Tweek to bring the highend up a bit. The 8 and 10 are listed at the same price so I think I'll just get the 10. The 8 ported and the 10 sealed use the same box. There isn't much of a difference (8 gets a little bit lower due to ports and 10 has 1 DB of sensitivity more than the 8s) but they're just discussing this over at AVSforum and you'd be hard pressed to find the difference.

I hadn't heard that they'd been tested vs the JTR S8. That's close to a $1k price difference in speakers. What other speakers did you guys have there to look at?

Like I said before, it's really amazing what the DIY community has done in terms of bringing high quality performance to price ranges that anyone can afford. I'll have to take that crossover build into consideration but I'd really like to attempt it myself. I just am an electrical newbie but I really want to learn!

@Vi edit
I don't know the theory at all/science behind such a design so I've been interested to see how it works out for people.

@Ironic
On a forum where most people built their own PCs to save cash and get exactly what they want it's insanely surprising that you wouldn't look at other things to see if it's possible to do it yourself as well. The retail markup on many speakers is simply astounding.
I'm honestly surprised more people in the DIY community didn't start their own speaker companies or get hired by one.

it was only for the 8 and i think they changed it if you order them now, all we (Matt the designer did) was change the value of one of the resistors on the crossover. they didnt sound bad before on their own but when compaired to something else you could tell they were ~3db down on the high end. He actually had the resistors with him in jan and i thought of doing it on the spot but it was just too busy of a day.

this was the G2G,
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1512849/january-18th-loudspeaker-gtg-results-thread/700_100#post_24419296
 
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alkemyst

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Best way to deal with that tool...

I have been called in to help fixing "builds" gone wrong.

No one posts their messed up project.

Most don't honestly tell the total cost either (with tools and supplies added).

I have an insane amount of tools though.

Unfortunately, I don't use them as much anymore. I am getting ready to do a entire rebuild on my fiancee's 2005 Honda Accord with 140k miles.

Many DIY projects fail. I never said all do.

You 'guys?' saying otherwise are being unhonest or admitting you don't have the experience outside your own knowledge.
 

alkemyst

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@Ironic
On a forum where most people built their own PCs to save cash and get exactly what they want it's insanely surprising that you wouldn't look at other things to see if it's possible to do it yourself as well. The retail markup on many speakers is simply astounding.
I'm honestly surprised more people in the DIY community didn't start their own speaker companies or get hired by one.

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?207897-Please-post-pix-of-your-worst-WAF-disasters&
 

MongGrel

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The gist of it anyway.

The old Trip 7's are dual Subs off the bottom receiver, and some satellites that are not pictured in the rear of the room.
 
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queequeg99

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Many DIY projects fail. I never said all do.

I think you also have to more clearly define "DIY." Many boards consider speakers built from well established designs (or, god forbid, from flat packs) to not be DIY. These guys feel that the only true DIY speakers are those you completely design and build by yourself.

I tend to be in the not-so-strict crowd. If you take a bunch of wood (whether it be in 5x5 sheets or pre-cut), speaker components, glue, fastener, amps, etc. and end up with something that creates sound, you have joined the DIY speaker crowd (at least IMHO).

In my case, I built a BFM design and ended up with absolutely outstanding results. He designs his projects for complete newbies with relatively few tools (although having good skills and tools will definitely make things easier). You can judge the appearance yourself (my pics are posted up above somewhere). I came to the project with no prior speaker building experience and next to no fine woodworking experience. I used a circular saw with a home-built straight edge jig (sorry, no table saw), drill, router, and jig saw. I have just 4 decent sized clamps. When listening to music, the results compare favorably to my Hsu VTF-15H (although the Hsu easily wins with lower frequency movie sound).

BTW, I loved some of the pics on that disaster site you linked to. I've definitely engaged in some home improvement projects that met with, shall we say, muted acceptance from my wife. Here's the latest (you can actually see the predecessor ringer in the setup pics I posted above):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og988DWEciw
 
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