Post pics of your setup!

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD
Denon 1906
Paradigm Studio 40 (front)
Polk R15 (rear)
80GB DT TiVo
Motorola HD-DVR
Xbox 360
Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player (not pictured)
Harmony 880

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I have some updated pictures of my setup.

Rear
updated front</end quote></div>

What speaker stands are those?

Lovan Affinitis. I'm not sure if mine are IIs or not.

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[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: sdifox

This I like Got a good flac or mp3 of it?

Why?

The WMP 10 codec at 24/44.1 is better quality than any mp3.

That would be a downgrade in quality.

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD
Denon 1906
Paradigm Studio 40 (front)
Polk R15 (rear)
80GB DT TiVo
Motorola HD-DVR
Xbox 360
Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player (not pictured)
Harmony 880

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I have some updated pictures of my setup.

Rear
updated front</end quote></div>

Nice Front Speakers!

Looking to upgrade to Studio 60 some day!

They sound fantastic; I'm extremely happy with them. These are going to tide me over for a while until I can afford to move up to Signature S8s or even something better than that when I get a better room (buy a house).

 

[Twinpeaksr]

Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD
Denon 1906
Paradigm Studio 40 (front)
Polk R15 (rear)
80GB DT TiVo
Motorola HD-DVR
Xbox 360
Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player (not pictured)
Harmony 880

Text.</end quote></div>
I have some updated pictures of my setup.

Rear
updated front</end quote></div>

Nice Front Speakers!

Looking to upgrade to Studio 60 some day!</end quote></div>
They sound fantastic; I'm extremely happy with them. These are going to tide me over for a while until I can afford to move up to Signature S8s or even something better than that when I get a better room (buy a house).

I have slowly been building my Theater for 6 years using a complete 7ch matched set of Monitors. I will no long buy any other speakers! My AV dealer had a 7.1 setup of Signatures with Anthem Amps, that was the best sound I have ever heard! Good luck with working towards the upgrade!

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: montypythizzle
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD
Denon 1906
Paradigm Studio 40 (front)
Polk R15 (rear)
80GB DT TiVo
Motorola HD-DVR
Xbox 360
Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player (not pictured)
Harmony 880

Text.</end quote></div>
I have some updated pictures of my setup.

Rear
updated front</end quote></div>

What speaker stands are those?</end quote></div>
Lovan Affinitis. I'm not sure if mine are IIs or not.

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Any B&M place sell them?

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: montypythizzle
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BornStar
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD
Denon 1906
Paradigm Studio 40 (front)
Polk R15 (rear)
80GB DT TiVo
Motorola HD-DVR
Xbox 360
Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player (not pictured)
Harmony 880

Text.</end quote></div>
I have some updated pictures of my setup.

Rear
updated front</end quote></div>

What speaker stands are those?</end quote></div>
Lovan Affinitis. I'm not sure if mine are IIs or not.

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Any B&M place sell them?

I got them from my local audio store. I doubt you'd find them at any chain.

Check here.

 

[sdifox]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Rubycon
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox

This I like Got a good flac or mp3 of it?</end quote></div>

Why?

The WMP 10 codec at 24/44.1 is better quality than any mp3.

That would be a downgrade in quality.
</end quote></div>

you mean if I sign up on that website I can download it?

Never mind, signed up and I can download the file. Thanx.

 

[Rubycon]

I'm not a big fan of putfile BUT-

It's free and seems to work OK with my connection.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
I'm not a big fan of putfile BUT-

It's free and seems to work OK with my connection.

It has gotten to the point where I have the browser handle non critical logins...

 

[NanoStuff]

http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.

why would you spend 700 on headphones?

 

[NanoStuff]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.</end quote></div>

why would you spend 700 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?

 

[Twinpeaksr]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.</end quote></div>

why would you spend 700 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Because I have never felt an explosion during a movie with a pair of headphones.

Though good headphones will have better sound reproduction due to less power needed to reproduce lower amplitude waves than most loudspeakers, the sound waves traveling through my body and everything else in the nearby area (or block in some cases) creates and sound stage that is like nothing any headphones can produce.

Enjoy your headphones, I do at times, but I enjoy 1300watts (RMS) into my 7.1 setup much more.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.</end quote></div>

why would you spend 700 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Because I have never felt an explosion during a movie with a pair of headphones.

Though good headphones will have better sound reproduction due to less power needed to reproduce lower amplitude waves than most loudspeakers, the sound waves traveling through my body and everything else in the nearby area (or block in some cases) creates and sound stage that is like nothing any headphones can produce.

Enjoy your headphones, I do at times, but I enjoy 1300watts (RMS) into my 7.1 setup much more.

I have never felt a presence in a movie with speakers because the room reverberation makes everything sound like it's coming from my room, not from the location in the movie. There's your nasty limitation of speakers. FYI sound waves traveling through a body don't create 'soundstage', but you are right, headphones don't create ripples through a body, but that's something I'm willing to overlook considering the benefits. I could always use my subwoofer with a restrictive low pass filter if I so desired the effect, but it never concerned me much.

 

[Twinpeaksr]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.</end quote></div>

why would you spend 700 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?</end quote></div>

Because I have never felt an explosion during a movie with a pair of headphones.

Though good headphones will have better sound reproduction due to less power needed to reproduce lower amplitude waves than most loudspeakers, the sound waves traveling through my body and everything else in the nearby area (or block in some cases) creates and sound stage that is like nothing any headphones can produce.

Enjoy your headphones, I do at times, but I enjoy 1300watts (RMS) into my 7.1 setup much more.</end quote></div>
I have never felt a presence in a movie with speakers because the room reverberation makes everything sound like it's coming from my room, not from the location in the movie. There's your nasty limitation of speakers. FYI sound waves traveling through a body don't create 'soundstage', but you are right, headphones don't create ripples through a body, but that's something I'm willing to overlook considering the benefits. I could always use my subwoofer with a restrictive low pass filter if I so desired the effect, but it never concerned me much.

To each their own.

For clarification I was not stating the sound waves through me created the sound stage, the room does that, if properly laid out and designed.

Enjoy what you have, that is why there are many options (I tried using only headphones with my computer and had to go back to speakers, I enjoy the sound better!)

 

[NanoStuff]

Rooms don't create soundstage, they only break it. A 'properly laid out' room will just break it less.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.

why would you spend 700 on headphones?

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?

Who spends 70K on speakers??? headphones have their places, but for 700 bux, you can get a pair of speaker that will blow those headphones away.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.

why would you spend 700 on headphones?

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?

Because I have never felt an explosion during a movie with a pair of headphones.

Though good headphones will have better sound reproduction due to less power needed to reproduce lower amplitude waves than most loudspeakers, the sound waves traveling through my body and everything else in the nearby area (or block in some cases) creates and sound stage that is like nothing any headphones can produce.

Enjoy your headphones, I do at times, but I enjoy 1300watts (RMS) into my 7.1 setup much more.

I have never felt a presence in a movie with speakers because the room reverberation makes everything sound like it's coming from my room, not from the location in the movie. There's your nasty limitation of speakers. FYI sound waves traveling through a body don't create 'soundstage', but you are right, headphones don't create ripples through a body, but that's something I'm willing to overlook considering the benefits. I could always use my subwoofer with a restrictive low pass filter if I so desired the effect, but it never concerned me much.

In other words, you need a better room. In your particular case, I can see why headphone will fare better. But still. I don't think I can deal with headphones all the time.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
http://blog.neochen.com/pics/06100901.jpg

Stax 3030
$700 and beats the shit out of, well, anything Not a bad deal.

why would you spend 700 on headphones?

Why would you spend 70,000 on speakers when a 700 pair of headphones will surpass their performance, that's the real question here. Why would you spend 20 on headphones?

Because I have never felt an explosion during a movie with a pair of headphones.

Though good headphones will have better sound reproduction due to less power needed to reproduce lower amplitude waves than most loudspeakers, the sound waves traveling through my body and everything else in the nearby area (or block in some cases) creates and sound stage that is like nothing any headphones can produce.

Enjoy your headphones, I do at times, but I enjoy 1300watts (RMS) into my 7.1 setup much more.

1300W RMS you say, that's nothing my subs alone got 1000W, plus 165X5 for my 5 speakers...

Of course it makes 0 difference in how loud it can play It clearly exceeds my tolerance level.

BTW, I am really liking this quote fixing script...

 

[NanoStuff]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
for 700 bux, you can get a pair of speaker that will blow those headphones away.</end quote></div>
No, you can't You can certainly try though.

Speakers can sound great in a room, but it really requires an exceptional configuration with soffit mounting and very thorough absorption, something pretty much nobody is going to attempt because of the massive cost and necessary knowledge. I have heard studio setups that would amaze you to no end, but that really is an exception. For everyone else, headphones solve all these problems by default. Being electrostatic headphones without a crossovers is only more indication that no dynamic speaker out there can surpass their performance.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: sdifox
for 700 bux, you can get a pair of speaker that will blow those headphones away.

No, you can't You can certainly try though.

where are you located, we have have to do a showdown...

 

[NanoStuff]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: NanoStuff
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sdifox
for 700 bux, you can get a pair of speaker that will blow those headphones away.</end quote></div>
No, you can't You can certainly try though.

</end quote></div>

where are you located, we have have to do a showdown...</end quote></div>

I'm in Toronto. What showdown? A big subwoofer and loud speakers don't impress me. Unless you have something particularly exceptional to show that I haven't heard before, I already have a pretty good idea what to expect. I have a pretty nice home speaker system myself, Yorkville monitors and a Rava SE subwoofer, with room equalization. The speakers sound as good as they can considering the inevitable limitations, but there are no speakers in the world I can bring into this room that would surpass the performance of my headphones, which is the reason I bought them, well after I bought the speakers. Simple crossfeed or sophisticated HRTF is required to get rid of the in-your-head headphone feeling, but once that's taken care of it's perfection.

I wanted to buy a pair of Adam Audios some time ago, which is pretty much the peak of dynamic speaker sound quality. I decided to get good headphones first and only then did I realize the full extent of how detrimental a room is, even with a favorable listener to wall ratio.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: sdifox
for 700 bux, you can get a pair of speaker that will blow those headphones away.

No, you can't You can certainly try though.

where are you located, we have have to do a showdown...

I'm in Toronto. What showdown? A big subwoofer and loud speakers don't impress me. Unless you have something particularly exceptional to show that I haven't heard before, I already have a pretty good idea what to expect. I have a pretty nice home speaker system myself, Yorkville monitors and a Rava SE subwoofer, with room equalization. The speakers sound as good as they can considering the inevitable limitations, but there are no speakers in the world I can bring into this room that would surpass the performance of my headphones, which is the reason I bought them, well after I bought the speakers. Simple crossfeed or sophisticated HRTF is required to get rid of the in-your-head headphone feeling, but once that's taken care of it's perfection.

I wanted to buy a pair of Adam Audios some time ago, which is pretty much the peak of dynamic speaker sound quality. I decided to get good headphones first and only then did I realize the full extent of how detrimental a room is, even with a favorable listener to wall ratio.

Lol, my normal listening volume is -30db, I don't really get to blast it either (kid and wife, what can I say).

I am sure headphones can blast your eardrums given the short distance. But can it make your follicles tingle?

I have always found headphone sound to be tight. I am not fond of tight sounding things. I grew up in an electronics distributor (my dad's business, my home was the warehouse) so I got to play with all sort of crap. Even remember wooden crates full of straws used as protection for Browning Tube

Only active monitors I like are the Genelecs and Tannoys. Genelec still sounds tight to me though.

One day, I would like to own a pair of Duntech Sovereign and a pair of old Tannoy Westminster.

 

[Maiora]

One day, I would like to own a pair of Duntech Sovereign and a pair of old Tannoy Westminster.

I have a pair of Sovereigns on one of my systems. They were a good match for my FM Acoustics Resolution 811 amp.

 

[NanoStuff]

If I understand your definition of tight, it means high resolution. So yes electrostats are about as tight as you can get. The thing here is, you can adjust the sound to your preference, if it's too 'tight', you can 'untighten' it with customization/plugins, you can't make a slowly responsive speaker faster however, it's a physical limitation. I like my audio to be 'reference', that is to properly reproduce source material without adding coloration, which is why I prefer pro audio over home audio. You can put any number of names on a speaker that cannot faithfully reproduce source material. You can call it warm, soft, 'untight', 'british sounding', but all of those are really the same thing, a speaker that distorts the input signal.

One day you will get a pair of Duntechs or Tannoys, because they're apparently not too tight for you, I however will one day rid myself of speakers and headphones altogether and get myself an audio input device that surpasses natural hearing itself. This will most likely be a cochlear, cochlear nucleus or auditory nerve implant. They already surpass natural hearing in at least one fundamental aspect, minimum perceivable amplitude differences between two sounds. The cause for this is the bypass of cochlear compression, or the mechanical conduction in the cochlear fluid, and possibly the entire conduction from the tympanic membrane up. Still ways to go, but that's sound quality that can't even be imagined. While I do prefer headphones at the moment, in reality any headphone or speaker to date is a crude air stirring device that could never ever at least match the perception of a real life sound, much less surpass it in objective sound quality. Neither speakers or headphones can or will get much better than what they are today, the only direction left to go is small, internal and non-mechanical. Headphones just happen to be closer to that ideal than speakers I've always considered the idea of 5 or worse, 7 speakers an absurd solution for two ears.