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Amused

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My current prediction. Texas looks lost, even with massive turnout. The polls are just too consistently in the wrong direction.

 
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woolfe9998

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The way I see it overall is this. MI and WI are showing Biden +8 and look like a lock for Biden right now, unless the polling is WAY off, by way more than it was in 2016. That and all the known blue states put Biden at 268. That means Biden only needs to win one of the following states: PA, GA, NC, FL, AZ, OH, IA or TX. In PA the polls are showing Biden at +5. The rest he's anywhere from +3.1 to - 1.8.

Trump's path to victory is then to deny Biden winning any of those 8 states. PA's margin for Biden is just slightly more than the polling error in 2016, while the rest of the states are within that error margin. So in theory, IF swing state polling is systemically off by about 5 in Biden's favor, then Trump wins.

Since pollsters have corrected for under-sampling non-college educated whites last time around, I highly doubt we'll see that sort of error margin again. But you never know. There are many odd variables in this election.
 
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Jhhnn

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The way I see it overall is this. MI and WI are showing Biden +8 and look like a lock for Biden right now, unless the polling is WAY off, by way more than it was in 2016. That and all the known blue states put Biden at 268. That means Biden only needs to win one of the following states: PA, GA, NC, FL, AZ, OH, IA or TX. In PA the polls are showing Biden at +5. The rest he's anywhere from +3.1 to - 1.8.

Trump's path to victory is then to deny Biden winning any of those 8 states. PA's margin for Biden is just slightly more than the polling error in 2016, while the rest of the states are within that error margin. So in theory, IF swing state polling is systemically off by about 5 in Biden's favor, then Trump wins.

Since pollsters have corrected for under-sampling non-college educated whites last time around, I highly doubt we'll see that sort of error margin again. But you never know. There are many odd variables in this election.

Your math is off. If you start from the actual 2016 map from the library, flipping WI & MI gives Biden 258. Trump could lose either AZ or IA but not both & still win. He can't win if he loses any other swing state. I figure he'll lose a lot more than that.
 
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zzyzxroad

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Your math is off. If you start from the actual 2016 map from the library, flipping WI & MI gives Biden 258. Trump could lose either AZ or IA but not both & still win. He can't win if he loses any other swing state. I figure he'll lose a lot more than that.
The suspense is killing me and I really hope you are right.
 

Amused

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@Amused
I like your map minus Georgia.

If the GOP lawsuits to disenfranchise over a hundred thousand drive thru votes fail in Harris County TX, I'm just about ready to shift TX blue in my prediction.

The turnout in TX has been astoundingly high.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Expecting a lot of voter suppression on Tuesday via the hitler trains that have been having dry runs shutting down highways and GOP governors in Arizona, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Georgia won't send in state troops to open access to polling spots in Democratic neighborhoods when the brownshirts try to block access in their trucks. Election goes to the courts for Pennsylvania and the nation burns for the next week. Refuse to expect anything less from 2020.

 

SteveGrabowski

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Is there ANY evidence of any polls tightening?

Doesn't need to be if you have massive suppression on Tuesday. None of those models factor in Trump's death cult going and trying to jam polling areas in areas unfavorable to them.
 

maddie

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A stupid clueless non- American here thinks Trump will have a shockingly massive win, but what do I know as a foreigner.
 

woolfe9998

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If the GOP lawsuits to disenfranchise over a hundred thousand drive thru votes fail in Harris County TX, I'm just about ready to shift TX blue in my prediction.

The turnout in TX has been astoundingly high.

Good news.

 

Amused

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Good news.


Unfortunately, it is now in front of a very conservative federal judge.

 

Paratus

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Unfortunately, it is now in front of a very conservative federal judge.


It should be thrown out:
  • Waiting specifically until the last minute when it’s been known since at least March
  • Possible standing issues: Everyone in the jurisdiction, Dems and republicans, had equal access to the polling location
  • Precedence: judicial branch not making last minute changes that affects an election
  • The legislature effectively authorizing these types of polling locations
The fact that I can’t say for certain it will get thrown out is what is disturbing.
 

Jhhnn

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It should be thrown out:
  • Waiting specifically until the last minute when it’s been known since at least March
  • Possible standing issues: Everyone in the jurisdiction, Dems and republicans, had equal access to the polling location
  • Precedence: judicial branch not making last minute changes that affects an election
  • The legislature effectively authorizing these types of polling locations
The fact that I can’t say for certain it will get thrown out is what is disturbing.

Add the fact that the Texas SCOTUS has denied the petitioners repeatedly.
 
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