Post your 3dmark05 results

[Zebo]

Every single review i've seen favors the XTPE over Ultra/UX... read the conclusions if you have any doubt.

Then read over at Hard forums or trust me when I tell you the card has wierd split second freezes in games dispite smooth frames. Then look how it uses more power, is larger, and gives weid ghosting effects in games. link

Basically for $400 plus tax I should'nt have the problems.

Ed: heres what some reviews have said about performance...So much for nvidia "leads"

"the new performance leader is ATi's Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition." _toms Hardware

"Just when we thought NVIDIA?s GeForce 6800 Ultra was the new king of the hill, ATI comes back and reclaims the performance crown " -Firing Squad

"The Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition goes even further and burns through these games like a hot knife through butter, besting NVIDIA?s 6800Ultra by an easily noticeable real-world margin. If the flagship is what you want, be assured the ATI Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition was the top performer allowing us to play today?s demanding games at higher resolution and quality settings than any 3D graphics accelerator we have ever experienced." -Hard OCP

"ATI's reply is now here and NVIDIA are going to need that Extreme if they want the speed crown back, having only held it for these scant three weeks." Hexus

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
2424 -> 2678 once i overclock my 9800 pro from 378/338 to 430/380...now time to overclock the cpu

Don't bother. Your CPU has no effect on your 3dmark05 score. It is a purely graphic benchmark. If you want a full system performance synthetic test, run 3dmark01.

 

[Marsumane]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Every single review i've seen favors the XTPE over Ultra/UX... read the conclusions if you have any doubt.

Then read over at Hard forums or trust me when I tell you the card has wierd split second freezes in games dispite smooth frames. Then look how it uses more power, is larger, and gives weid ghosting effects in games. link

Basically for $400 plus tax I should'nt have the problems.

I wouldnt just trust anyone on the ghosting fact. I'm sure more reliable sites and more ppl would have found this to be true if it was for all of the 6x00 series. I'm not saying its not true, just maybe its a rare occurance. And it only uses barely any more power then the x800 series. Tomshardware and another site (cant remember) did testing on this and they both concluded that it really doesnt use that much more power. It was like 63 vs 72w or something like that under load. And as far as the sites go, I dont agree with either of u. Basically sites switch back and forth. The only consistancy ive seen is within the lower/midrange where the 6600gt and 6800gt is usually reccomended over the ati competition. Lately theyve been slightly more nv prone for the 6800u due to doom 3, but as far as 3dmark goes, they are giving ati more credit now. Its utterly rediculous in my opinion.

And user1234, do u have a link to the sales of both companies? I'd really be interested in that if u did.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Marsumane

Originally posted by: Zebo
Every single review i've seen favors the XTPE over Ultra/UX... read the conclusions if you have any doubt.

Then read over at Hard forums or trust me when I tell you the card has wierd split second freezes in games dispite smooth frames. Then look how it uses more power, is larger, and gives weid ghosting effects in games. link

Basically for $400 plus tax I should'nt have the problems.

I wouldnt just trust anyone on the ghosting fact. I'm sure more reliable sites and more ppl would have found this to be true if it was for all of the 6x00 series. I'm not saying its not true, just maybe its a rare occurance. And it only uses barely any more power then the x800 series. Tomshardware and another site (cant remember) did testing on this and they both concluded that it really doesnt use that much more power. It was like 63 vs 72w or something like that under load. And as far as the sites go, I dont agree with either of u. Basically sites switch back and forth. The only consistancy ive seen is within the lower/midrange where the 6600gt and 6800gt is usually reccomended over the ati competition. Lately theyve been slightly more nv prone for the 6800u due to doom 3, but as far as 3dmark goes, they are giving ati more credit now. Its utterly rediculous in my opinion.

And user1234, do u have a link to the sales of both companies? I'd really be interested in that if u did.

Dude the picture is right there. and even in certified drivers look at the pier pylons. Yes it's rare, only happens on peir pylons in fc

As far as pwr. Nvidia cards are power hogs look here http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...ti-vs-nv-power_10.html

 

[lordtyranus]

For example - X800XT get 20% higher score than 6800U at stock speeds. How many games do you know where X800XT produces 20% faster frame rate than the 6800U on the exact same machine ? I know of many games where 6800U is faster, and sometimes 25% or more faster. So again, what's the relevance of 3dm5 score here ?

I can name 2 of the top of my head: Farcry and HL2. Only the XTPE has a 30% lead in Farcry.

And as far as the sites go, I dont agree with either of u. Basically sites switch back and forth. The only consistancy ive seen is within the lower/midrange where the 6600gt and 6800gt is usually reccomended over the ati competition. Lately theyve been slightly more nv prone for the 6800u due to doom 3, but as far as 3dmark goes, they are giving ati more credit now. Its utterly rediculous in my opinion.

There is a general trend of the 16 pipe x800 cards being faster under AA/AF conditions and high res. It's present in nearly every review.

BS-crap, and especially surprising to hear from a heavy Nvidia user like yourself. Nvidia is dominating in sales in all the medium and high market segments, and its 6x00 cards are recommended over ATI by just about every computer magazine and website.

Their stock certainly wasn't reflecting that earlier this month.

And this 3dcrack rigged horrid app can't even put a small dent in that. Of course driver optimizations can change things, but I we will have to wait for real benchmarks with the new drivers to see if there is a significant change. At least for Nvidia, the new beta driver does improve scores a little even in more reliable benchmarks (I noticed about 1% improvement).

A: The drivers fixed a bug and bumped AGP x800s up to PCI levels.
B: It's not rigged towards ATI. If anything 3dmark05 is rigged towards Nvidia with DST shadowing.

Maybe you're blinded by the excitement of getting a new card, but please let's stick to the facts - it is currently widely accepted that in the new generation of video cards, nVidia GPUs are on top.

Completely wrong.

 

[exdeath]

5451 is all I'm good for without overclocking anything.

FX53 @ 2400
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
1024 MB Corsair XL DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5-1T
eVGA 6800 Ultra @ 425/1100

My '03 for comparison is 13,479

Anything better than this at STOCK clock speeds?

 

[Zebo]

My god Look at all these GT problems, the whole forum is littered with them right on the front pages!

http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=88
http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

need help with 6800 GT: really low 3DMark score; games not that fast


evga 6800GT too loud. Where can I find another fan?

BFG 6800 GT OC crashes games ( 1 2 )

I think my new BFG 6800GT isnt running the way it should, help!


nVidia's duel SLI falls to an OCed X800...already! ( 1 2 3 4 )


Let's quit the whining about the 6800GT...O.K.? ( 1 2 3 4 5 )

Dead bfg 6800gt in less than a week!!!

dead 6800 gt?

I RMA'd my 6800GT and went back to my Geforce3Ti 200

and on and on and on...

LMAO, yea great bang for the buck all right! Costs losta bucks goes out with a bang. Especially considering guys are generating a XTPE for $400 which no GT OC can match.

 

[piesang]

Ouch!
1531 3dmarks

slideshows suck
9500pro not cutting it any more...

 

[HumblePie]

don't bother arguing with user1234. It's an Nvidia Fanboi to the core. Look, this card is my first ATI card ever. I've owned matrox, Savage 3d, Banshees, Voodoo2's, TNT2' Ultra's, Geforce 2, Geforce 4 ti4600, and now this x800 pro modded @XT PE+ speeds.

Every single time I BUY a video card I like to know specifically how that card performs for 3D. Nothing else. Pure 3D performance is indicative of ALL gaming performance. If your video card SUCKS, I don't care how good a sound card you have, your gaming is going to SUCK.

These benchmarks are also PERFECT for determining good drivers from bad drivers. If I'm using a good set of drivers for a benchmark which only stresses that ONE item in my system. Then I can rule out all other variables which may screw around with my score otherwise.

And user1234 said these scores mean nothing because you can't compare them to other people.... HELLO? McFly? I want to compare VIDEO CARD PERFORMANCE SCORES, not system scores.

Also, the 6800 GT is the only card from nvidia that "beats" out the ATI card of the equivilant price. The GT in many games and most resolutions will beat the x800 pro. There are a few games though that the x800 pro will beat the GT no matter the resolution or settings. Also, there are some games that take 1600x1200 resolution and higher along with 4xaf and 16xaa before the x800 pulls ahead of the 6800GT.

that being said, the XT PE TROUNCES everything else made by Nvidia in the majority of games. In the few games it DOES loss, and I'm talking by a fractional margin, the XT PE will still win after the resolution is set to max along with AF and AA maxed out. The only game I can think of that continually shows the Nvidia cards beating the ATI cards right now Doom 3. And that is such a horrible piece of .... at least in my opinion. When I was looking to buy a video card recently, I looked at all the reviews, and came to the conclusion I would not buy a Nvidia product this time, as tempting as the GT is.

Now, depending on the game and price point, I will still recommend people to buy either the 6800 vanilla or GT. I can't recommend the ultra because the XT PE is frankly, better. If you can manage to find a x800 pro that you can flash to an XT PE then I would recommend that over the GT. That is what I did.

Quite frankly, this 3Dmark05 test shows EXACTLY how much Nvidia is struggling with the higher end eye candy settings of newer games and games that are going to come out in the future. Look, they screwed the pouch ROYALLY with the GFX5xxx series of cards. the 6x00 series is much better but nvidia can stil be brought to it's knees HORRIBLY. Just turn on all the DX9 stuff and grab some popcorn for the slideshows. That is what is happening here. ATI actually made better and faster pixel shaders and made their cards more compliant with DX9 features. Have since the 9200 series came out while nvidia really JUST STARTED.

 

[Uhtrinity]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
6318

Nice setup. I love to see value systems hanging with the big boys. Well, relative value

What mem are you using and what card was able to flash?Are you Oced?

I am so getting a x800pro vivo. Between the new benchmarks with new cat drivers showing total domination, not just this bench either, Nvidia driver WHQL failures and cheats and inferior AA/AF it really looks like ati is the card to buy.

Video card is a Powercolor VIVO X800 pro flashed to an X800XT PE, clocked to 575 core, 595 memory. CPU is an Athlon 64 3000+ oced to 2.4 Ghz @1.65v, FSB is at 240, and memory is KingMax DDR 466 at 480 (2 X 512Mb), CL2.5, 4, 4, 6. I have also used some A-Data DDR 500 (2 X 256 Mb) at the same speed. Both the CPU and GPU are running on an homemade water cooling system, temps hover around 30 - 35C, GPU will spike at 40c under heavy load. Pretty much semi value all the way around.

 

[apoppin]

3DMark Score: 2581
GT1 - Return to Proxycon 10.6 fps
GT2 - Firefly Forest 7.4 fps
GT3 - Canyon Flight 14.0 fps

CPU Score: 3581
CPU Test 1 1.9 fps
CPU Test 2 3.0 fps

Stock 9800xt speeds . . . . i HATE taking two nights to D/L over dial-up
:roll:

 

[Golgatha]

3DMark Score 5628 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.0 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.5 FPS
CPU Score 3984 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 2.1 FPS
CPU Test 2 3.4 FPS


P4 3.2EE, X800 XT PE, 1GB Crucial PC3200.

Edit: Nothing like a new Futuremark benchmark to bring current hardware to its knees.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Zebo
My god Look at all these GT problems, the whole forum is littered with them right on the front pages!

http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=88
http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

need help with 6800 GT: really low 3DMark score; games not that fast


evga 6800GT too loud. Where can I find another fan?

BFG 6800 GT OC crashes games ( 1 2 )

I think my new BFG 6800GT isnt running the way it should, help!


nVidia's duel SLI falls to an OCed X800...already! ( 1 2 3 4 )


Let's quit the whining about the 6800GT...O.K.? ( 1 2 3 4 5 )

Dead bfg 6800gt in less than a week!!!

dead 6800 gt?

I RMA'd my 6800GT and went back to my Geforce3Ti 200

and on and on and on...

LMAO, yea great bang for the buck all right! Costs losta bucks goes out with a bang. Especially considering guys are generating a XTPE for $400 which no GT OC can match.

You do realize why there are so many 6800gt threads right???



Because damn near everyone, save a few, bought one.


If I went to a board where 70% of people owned a certain card, I would expect 70% of threads to be about said card.

 

[exdeath]

3DMark Score 5628 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.0 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.5 FPS
CPU Score 3984 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 2.1 FPS
CPU Test 2 3.4 FPS


P4 3.2EE, X800 XT PE, 1GB Crucial PC3200.

Is this normal for X800XTs? Whats up with the 7000+ that some places are reporting? ATI biasing or some impractical cooling system that makes it no longer a useable PC?

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: exdeath

3DMark Score 5628 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.0 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.5 FPS
CPU Score 3984 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 2.1 FPS
CPU Test 2 3.4 FPS


P4 3.2EE, X800 XT PE, 1GB Crucial PC3200.

Is this normal for X800XTs? Whats up with the 7000+ that some places are reporting? ATI biasing or some impractical cooling system that makes it no longer a useable PC?

Probably just using top of the line A64 w/liquid cooling to overclock the system. I could probably get into the 6000 range with just OCing the video card, and maybe a bit higher with some super premium RAM.

 

[piesang]

That is the normal score of a XT PE. The 7000+ are extreme overclocked systems.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: exdeath

3DMark Score 5628 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.0 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.5 FPS
CPU Score 3984 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 2.1 FPS
CPU Test 2 3.4 FPS


P4 3.2EE, X800 XT PE, 1GB Crucial PC3200.

Is this normal for X800XTs? Whats up with the 7000+ that some places are reporting? ATI biasing or some impractical cooling system that makes it no longer a useable PC?

Probably just using top of the line A64 w/liquid cooling to overclock the system. I could probably get into the 6000 range with just OCing the video card, and maybe a bit higher with some super premium RAM.

My stock 6800U gets 5451 compared to your X800XT PE stock getting 5628, thats more like what I would have expected. Factor in the Ultra Extreme and they are once again, dead even.

Thats a far cry from TR showing 4956 vs 5770 for 6800U vs X800XT PE

Though thats pretty dumb anyway considering you can't buy a 6800UE OR X800XT PE

Lame ass paper launches

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: exdeath

3DMark Score 5628 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.0 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.5 FPS
CPU Score 3984 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 2.1 FPS
CPU Test 2 3.4 FPS


P4 3.2EE, X800 XT PE, 1GB Crucial PC3200.

Is this normal for X800XTs? Whats up with the 7000+ that some places are reporting? ATI biasing or some impractical cooling system that makes it no longer a useable PC?

Probably just using top of the line A64 w/liquid cooling to overclock the system. I could probably get into the 6000 range with just OCing the video card, and maybe a bit higher with some super premium RAM.

My stock 6800U gets 5451 compared to your X800XT PE stock getting 5628, thats more like what I would have expected. Factor in the Ultra Extreme and they are once again, dead even.

Thats a far cry from TR showing 4956 vs 5770 for 6800U vs X800XT PE

Though thats pretty dumb anyway considering you can't buy a 6800UE OR X800XT PE

Lame ass paper launches

Link? Throughout this thread we haven't even seen overclocked 6800s at 420+ core reach 5400 3dmarks.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: exdeath

3DMark Score 5628 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.0 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.5 FPS
CPU Score 3984 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 2.1 FPS
CPU Test 2 3.4 FPS


P4 3.2EE, X800 XT PE, 1GB Crucial PC3200.

Is this normal for X800XTs? Whats up with the 7000+ that some places are reporting? ATI biasing or some impractical cooling system that makes it no longer a useable PC?

Probably just using top of the line A64 w/liquid cooling to overclock the system. I could probably get into the 6000 range with just OCing the video card, and maybe a bit higher with some super premium RAM.

My stock 6800U gets 5451 compared to your X800XT PE stock getting 5628, thats more like what I would have expected. Factor in the Ultra Extreme and they are once again, dead even.

Thats a far cry from TR showing 4956 vs 5770 for 6800U vs X800XT PE

Though thats pretty dumb anyway considering you can't buy a 6800UE OR X800XT PE

Lame ass paper launches

I agree, paper launches are very lame. I just happened to get very lucky and find one on the For/Sale forums at a reasonable price. Even got a t-shirt to go with it!

Here's my conspiracy theory. I think both nVidia and ATI are keeping the rare 1.6ns GDDR3 for when the fall refresh hits and PCI Express is much more common. It really sucks to not be able to find what you want, and neither ATI or nVidia has impressed me with the number of cards they've put in the retail channel.

 

[apoppin]

ATI X800XT PE catches up with Nvidia SLI score

ATI MADE A wonder driver that we reported about here and this is how the fight for the 3Dmark05 crown started.

When Nvidia saw that it would lose to the X800XT PE, it had to react fast and it introduced an SLI score based on two Geforce 6800 Ultra and managed to score approximately 7200 points. We reported about that here.

As ATI just could not leave it at that, some of its friends did some frenzied overclocking and managed first to come close to Nvidia's number, then later that day to equal it, then first to outperform it and finally significantly outpace it. You can check the highest score so far based on an ATI card here.

This score was brought to the world by the famous Finnish overclocker Sami Makkinen, the guy that did the overclocking for ATI in Barcelona at the X800XT PE, XT and PRO introduction.

He happens to be one of the few people to have X800XT PE, still almost a mythic card, a veritable hen's tooth.

Anyway he used dry ice to get that kind of score and that?s not something that you can run 24 by 7, but those numbers can still be used for marketing purposes to impress the crowd who clamour for gladiators and bread. ATI will come to the conclusion that its X800XT PE card is a better performer than two Nvidia 6800 Ultra SLI cards, but may forget to remind you that Nvidia cards are default clocked while its is heavily overclocked. If 806MHz clock is not high, I don?t know what is. The default clock of RX800XT PE is only 520MHz.

What's next? Nvidia overclock two of their cards and release the numbers? I would not be surprised at all as long as we have Gainward standing at Nvidia's side. Benchmarketing. We invented the term. µ

* WE ARE informed that Sami used a Cascade Compressor system to cool the graphics card and this setup can actually run twenty four hours a day

:shocked:

 

[exdeath]

Link? Throughout this thread we haven't even seen overclocked 6800s at 420+ core reach 5400 3dmarks.

All I can offer is a screen cap when I get home, I'm using the free version and have no intention of buying 3DMark05.

Until then, the same system on 3DMark03:

http://members.cox.net/~exdeath/3dmark03.jpg

System specs:

FX 53 @ 2.4 Ghz
K8N Neo2 Platinum
1024 MB Corsair XL DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5-1T
eVGA 6800U @ 425/1100 (default)
66.70 video drivers on 5.10 nForce GART drivers

Go to the forums on eVGA there are plenty of scores in the 5200-5400 range with stock 6800 Ultras

Overclocked Ultra Extremes can even hang in the 6000-7000 range @ 500/1300.

Even Athlon XPs with 6800 GTs overclocked to Ultra specs can reach 5200+

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Go to the forums on eVGA there are plenty of scores in the 5200-5400 range with stock 6800 Ultras

Overclocked Ultra Extremes can even hang in the 6000-7000 range @ 500/1300.

Even Athlon XPs with 6800 GTs overclocked to Ultra specs can reach 5200+

did you turn off ALL optimizations? sites have typically been disabling A.I. and nvidia opts.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Link? Throughout this thread we haven't even seen overclocked 6800s at 420+ core reach 5400 3dmarks.

All I can offer is a screen cap when I get home, I'm using the free version and have no intention of buying 3DMark05.

Until then, the same system on 3DMark03:

http://members.cox.net/~exdeath/3dmark03.jpg
<snip>

i'm not quite understanding what having the "free" version has to do with anything; free versions publish on orb just like "non-free" version...

 

[Golgatha]

My first v110 hotfix benchmark.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=56569

 

[Avalon]

What does v110 fix?
I'm currently downloading it.