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DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Oh yeah, forgot to post mine 4904

Why so low?
3-3-3-11 timings, nF3 150 that does not like to go above 600HT so I use 2.5x LDT, DDR400 using a divider, HDD needs defragging, OS install is almost a year old, that about covers it. It plays every game I've tried@my LCDs 1280x1024 with 4x/8x silky smooth so 500 points in 3Dmock doesn't mean shat to me. I'm certain I could break 5k if I efforted it, but I have zero intention of doing so.
 

MatthewF01

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trying to run on my 6800GT, but when i try to launch the program i get error 'direct3dcreate9 failed'




ideas?
 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Rage187
M4H's link is NWS

:roll:

For those who are debating clicking it, I used the word "Cock." Guess I'd better say some Hail Marys and assassinate a few infidels to regain my blessings of Jesus.

- M4H

Your link is cool for home, but my work history really didnt need a big cock in it.

Don't get upset.

If your company uses image analysis and OCR software on everything you download, I'd be more worried about popup ads getting you canned than a 3DMock chop. It's not like I named the file anything nasty though.

Also "Not Work Safe" means different things. For all they know, I just linked to hardcore pr0n like so many idiots in OT have done.

/waits for viewing hits to increase

- M4H



I see where your going. Its about as work safe as the IP relay thread from OT, man that sh!t was funny.

 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: MatthewF01
trying to run on my 6800GT, but when i try to launch the program i get error 'direct3dcreate9 failed'




ideas?

sounds like you do not have dx9.0c installed.
 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Oh yeah, forgot to post mine 4904

Why so low?
3-3-3-11 timings, nF3 150 that does not like to go above 600HT so I use 2.5x LDT, DDR400 using a divider, HDD needs defragging, OS install is almost a year old, that about covers it. It plays every game I've tried@my LCDs 1280x1024 with 4x/8x silky smooth so 500 points in 3Dmock doesn't mean shat to me. I'm certain I could break 5k if I efforted it, but I have zero intention of doing so.

Meh. I haven't defragged and all that either really. But you have a faster CPU and a faster GT as well.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Oh yeah, forgot to post mine 4904

Why so low?
3-3-3-11 timings, nF3 150 that does not like to go above 600HT so I use 2.5x LDT, DDR400 using a divider, HDD needs defragging, OS install is almost a year old, that about covers it. It plays every game I've tried@my LCDs 1280x1024 with 4x/8x silky smooth so 500 points in 3Dmock doesn't mean shat to me. I'm certain I could break 5k if I efforted it, but I have zero intention of doing so.

Meh. I haven't defragged and all that either really. But you have a faster CPU and a faster GT as well.
J/K Seriously though, what are your system specs? timings, bandwidth, and chipset make a difference with '03 so probably '05 as well.

EDIT: your URL gives me the "not valid" message Forget to publish the score?
 

CaiNaM

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i'm not sure why everyone disses 3dm so much.. it certainly is not the "difinitive" scale of performance (no more so than any other single game). 3dm2003 results have shown it's results are pretty consistent with d3d games such as far cry, so it's certainly no less relevant than any other single app.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Rage187
M4H's link is NWS

:roll:

For those who are debating clicking it, I used the word "Cock." Guess I'd better say some Hail Marys and assassinate a few infidels to regain my blessings of Jesus.

- M4H

LOL - funny link, funny commentary. Nice job M4H .
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
so it's certainly no less relevant than any other single app.
That's your opinion, not a fact. I'll take real game performance any day over it's results, and I'm not alone.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
God damn it. My ISP is still blocking BT, even when I've set it up on the 20000+ ports. Feel that screaming 1.1KB/s ... asshats.

Anyone have a mirror that isn't 100% Fubar?

- M4H

I get that speed quite commonly with Bit Torrent... I wonder if I am getting the same shaft. (?)
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
so it's certainly no less relevant than any other single app.
That's your opinion, not a fact. I'll take real game performance any day over it's results, and I'm not alone.

actually facts do back this up, if you choose not to ignore information which may be contrary to your preferred opinion. for instance, as i stated in the earlier post, 3dm results have been reflected in other d3d titles such as far cry.

even when using "real games" to measure performance, they can be just as inaccurate or misleading. you only have to look at the nv specific demos to show sm3 path performance to see that. hell, one could also argue doom3 is irrelevant as a benchmark, as it paints a completely different picture than any other game.

the nature of any benchmark is that it can only paint part of the picture. regardless of wether it's "synthetic" or not, no one benchmark reveals a "true and accurate" representation.

 

DAPUNISHER

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I said game performance brudda, not game benchmarks Actual in game experience with the AI and other factors loading the CPU and whole system, that 3Dm currently doesn't provide. That will provide a true and accurate reprensentation of how my system does in that game. 3Dmock gives me a basic idea, nothing more, and it's because it has been so overhyped and overvalued in the past that I do not place much faith in it now. I hope you understand my perspective now, if not, it's evident our viewpoints are too disparate to see the others.
 

OnEMoReTrY

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AMD 64 3200+ @ 2.2ghz, x800 pro at stock speeds = 4504
AMD 64 3200+ @ 2.4ghz, x800 pro at 585/575 = 5592
Using the 8.07 driver
 

OnEMoReTrY

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Originally posted by: Marsumane
Originally posted by: klah
Xbit is the only site I have seen who tested at various resolutions and AA/AF levels.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl.../display/3dmark05.html

Note that they used the 4.9 Catalysts and not the 8.07 beta drivers which give ~20% better scores in 3dm05.

This is interesting. I wonder how they did that one. Must be Catalyst AI's default optimizations (non application specific of course).

No, the 8.07's do not have AI in them. This is done because 256MB cards have a memory allocation bug in them. This driver fixes that. AI will only continue to further improve these scores.
 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Oh yeah, forgot to post mine 4904

Why so low?
3-3-3-11 timings, nF3 150 that does not like to go above 600HT so I use 2.5x LDT, DDR400 using a divider, HDD needs defragging, OS install is almost a year old, that about covers it. It plays every game I've tried@my LCDs 1280x1024 with 4x/8x silky smooth so 500 points in 3Dmock doesn't mean shat to me. I'm certain I could break 5k if I efforted it, but I have zero intention of doing so.

Meh. I haven't defragged and all that either really. But you have a faster CPU and a faster GT as well.
J/K Seriously though, what are your system specs? timings, bandwidth, and chipset make a difference with '03 so probably '05 as well.

EDIT: your URL gives me the "not valid" message Forget to publish the score?


Athlon XP @ 12.5x171 (2137 mhz)
1 GB DDR 333 @ 171 mhz (timings 11 3 3 3)
Biostar M7NCD Pro (NForce 2 Ultra Chipset + MCP)
80 GB Western Digital HDD
2x optical drives
PNY 6800 GT @ 412/1140

Your rig looks faster across the board.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=7245
Try that link.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I said game performance brudda, not game benchmarks Actual in game experience with the AI and other factors loading the CPU and whole system, that 3Dm currently doesn't provide. That will provide a true and accurate reprensentation of how my system does in that game. 3Dmock gives me a basic idea, nothing more, and it's because it has been so overhyped and overvalued in the past that I do not place much faith in it now. I hope you understand my perspective now, if not, it's evident our viewpoints are too disparate to see the others.

heh.. well, that depends on perspective, i suppose

the only area we disagree on would be any benchmark gives a "true and accurate representation" of how a system does in "that game", as benchmarks can "selectively" show advantages in certain areas. again, i only need to refer you to nvidia's farcry benches to show that. even within the same game, different situations can be manipulated to empahsize a particular strength of one card over another

further, the lack of most benchmarks in showing actual performance over time which portrays min/max framerates under varying conditions can give a misleading picture of what you'll experience when actually playing that game, especially any online experience.

again, going back to 3dm03, the relative performance shown in that bench corresponds to the relative performance shown in many "acutal" d3d games, which to me shows it as a viable indicator of overall performance. one must however, put the appropriate amount of "weight" in those results, as they would any other single benchmark, synthetic or not.
 
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Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
God damn it. My ISP is still blocking BT, even when I've set it up on the 20000+ ports. Feel that screaming 1.1KB/s ... asshats.

Anyone have a mirror that isn't 100% Fubar?

- M4H

I get that speed quite commonly with Bit Torrent... I wonder if I am getting the same shaft. (?)

I'd wager yes. People who download legal stuff through BT are getting reamed because it just became the Weapon of Choice for warez.

I can usually max out the line at near 1MB/s down when it's nighttime and they uncap it.

- M4H
 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I said game performance brudda, not game benchmarks Actual in game experience with the AI and other factors loading the CPU and whole system, that 3Dm currently doesn't provide. That will provide a true and accurate reprensentation of how my system does in that game. 3Dmock gives me a basic idea, nothing more, and it's because it has been so overhyped and overvalued in the past that I do not place much faith in it now. I hope you understand my perspective now, if not, it's evident our viewpoints are too disparate to see the others.

To chime in:

The obvious problem with your reasoning here is that there are no ingame performance measures for games that have yet to be released. For all the controversy surrouding 3dmark, I have yet to see a better single benchmark of general gaming performance released.

Nvidia's relatively poor performance in 3dmark05 compared to the XT will be interesting to watch, though. I would not be surprised if we see them attack 3dmark again like they did with '03. Between 3dmark05, HL2, and the recent release of an AGP x800 XT at reasonable prices ATI certainly seems to be gaining ground.
 

Avalon

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I'm going to go underclock my system and see if your system has much of an effect on your overall score.
 
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