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HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
22,027
3
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my IQ is slightly over 160, of course there are different scales. Mine was tested professionally and why I was in gifted classes growing up.

SAT and other tests don't really scale to IQ as does neither grades.

Right now I am rolling my eyes so much that it's hurting my head.
 

Doboji

Diamond Member
May 18, 2001
7,912
0
76
Two things:

1) Alkemyst is more successful than Paris Hilton
2) Being more successful doesn't make you a better person, unless you value a person based on their job... Which I don't. Steve Jobs was a very successful man, but based on what I've read a bout him he wasn't a nice person, making him (IMO) a worse person than me.

Successful serial killers are not better people than unsuccessful charity workers.

Alkemyst is more successful than Paris? Really? How did I not hear about that?
 

Doboji

Diamond Member
May 18, 2001
7,912
0
76
Proof of my intelligence... I managed to respond to a post you hadn't even made yet!
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
41,892
2,135
126
Last IQ test I took was in 2002 and I scored a 128.

128
96.9025987934%

So, this explains why nearly everyone I talk to seems to be stupid.
 

Dr. Zaus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2008
11,770
347
126
not sure why you don't believe that, but IDGAS...amidoingitrite?

Close; but hal still has the "I don't understand and I don't give a shit" down a little more pat than you.

Ability to advance in a thinking-based job is directly related to our measures of general intelligence. (regardless of what the measures are actually measuring)
 

Bateluer

Lifer
Jun 23, 2001
27,730
8
0
If you don't know your IQ then convert your SAT/GMAT/GRE to IQ

Then look at this chart

Then, of course, take 1 - your percentile and multiply that by 311,591,917 and post the number of people that are as smart or smarter than you in the US .

I found it humbling and I think we could all use some humbling from time to time.

The heck? That chart goes down to 1. Pretty sure thats a tomato.

And most of ATOT/Reddit/etc is probably around an 80-85, despite their Holier than Thou attitudes.
 

Sho'Nuff

Diamond Member
Jul 12, 2007
6,211
121
106
17,195 (based on percentiles from the Wechsler chart).

Probably not an accurate number. According to tests in grade school (some 25 years ago), my IQ is 158. That is somewhat consistent with the SAT->IQ chart, as I scored a 1490 on the SAT in 1994. However, I have been getting dumber by the day since August 23, 2003.

For those of you that care, that was the day I entered law school.
 
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alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,967
19
81
Close; but hal still has the "I don't understand and I don't give a shit" down a little more pat than you.

Ability to advance in a thinking-based job is directly related to our measures of general intelligence. (regardless of what the measures are actually measuring)

Actually the ability to advance in any job is set by your starting salary 9 times out of 10.

It's sad, but most employers have a limit of 10-20% they are willing to increase any employee...even those that underwent highly specialized training.

Also once you get to a certain salary threshold, networking really comes into play.

That said too there is a limit any 'job' will bear in salary. One of my 'gifted' friends decided to go for her Master's and then a PhD in social work. She works with poor children. The salary threshold for that job slot is under $50k per year. She is choosing non-monetary compensation for her reward. It's a noble thing, but not for me.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,967
19
81
17,195 (based on percentiles from the Wechsler chart).

Probably not an accurate number. According to tests in grade school (some 25 years ago), my IQ is 158. That is somewhat consistent with the SAT->IQ chart, as I scored a 1490 on the SAT in 1994. However, I have been getting dumber by the day since August 23, 2003.

For those of you that care, that was the day I entered law school.

Tests done outside a professional are highly inaccurate.

I have found no correlation to IQ and SAT/ACT/ETC except to those that were also able to 'study' for their IQ test.

It's like how everyone is an honor student today.
 
May 16, 2000
13,526
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Well here's the thing. IMHO practical intelligence isn't accurately measured on the IQ test

There is no universally accepted definition of 'practical intelligence', any more than there is a universally accepted definition of 'g'. So right away we're conflicted in that to some people it may measure it accurately because their definitions and warrants are different than yours.

, instead you measure some subset of generalized intelligence potential. Which to me, means no more than measuring someone's aptitude to do something like play World of Warcraft.

It measures certain traits which relate strongly to potential for certain types of cognitive processes. Rather you personally think those things matter is irrelevant...it doesn't diminish the accuracy or usefulness of the tests or theory for others...especially others who deal with such things and their impacts (such as education) for a living. We don't need a mechanic or grocery bagger to understand or agree with cognitive psychology...we DO need teachers, counselors, therapists, and policy makers to at least acknowledge it however.

There are many forms of intelligence NOT measured by the test.

Absolutely true. For those things there are other theories being explored (Sternbergs Triarchic, Gardner MI, etc). NONE of that detracts from the existence or use of 'g' however.

Beyond that even the forms of intelligence that actually are measured don't correlate to practical intelligence. Sure you may measure that person's ability to perform pattern recognition, or solve boxed logic problems, but that doesn't mean they can translate that capability into anything useful. Without execution skill, you can only apply the intelligence to problems you are presented, and you probably need someone to translate your results to other human beings in an effective manner.

In simpler terms... Being able to solve an incredibly complex mathematical equation is utterly useless if the equation serves no purpose and you can't explain the solution to anyone.

You have just demonstrated that you know absolutely nothing about the field whatsoever. In fact, it demonstrates EXACTLY that you CAN do other things, and how quickly and easily you will be able to learn them compared to others. The ability to do the tasks on intelligence tests related directly to the ability to perform various cognitive functions required in an infinite number of situations (pattern recognition, mnemonics, spatial awareness and reasoning, logic, communication, etc).

There is also the previous point that there is no set definition of 'practical intelligence', and if there was it certainly wouldn't be set by you or any one person. What you think about what matters ONLY matters to you. What can be demonstrated through scientific study to be generally true of everyone does have merit however. That's how we came up with 'g' in the first place.

Then we have Paris Hilton. We are all human beings with a set lifetime of somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-100 years give or take unexpected death. I personally believe there are three measures of human quality. That is to say what determines whether a person is "better" than another.

Again, what you personally think matters ONLY matters to you personally. You're welcome to feel that way, but others will feel differently, or even the exact opposite. You don't get to disparage or refute their beliefs any more than they can yours. Which is to say, as long as you're fine with other people thinking you're an idiot, or an asshole, then you're free to do the same for them. Just don't think for one second anyone gives a shit if you 'get your way' on anything if that's going to be your attitude.

1. The impact of that individual on the whole population of humanity. For example Albert Einstein has had significant lasting impact on humanity as a whole. This makes him on some level a higher quality human being.

2. The quality of life an individual is able to sustain. For example Paris Hilton has an excellent quality of life with everything she could possibly need and then some.

3. The impact of an individual on the quality of life of those people surrounding him. For Example Paris Hilton's father.

Albert Einstein had impact on humanity because he was smart. Had he been a moron, he would have made no contribution, even if he wanted to.

'quality of life' is wholly subjective. YOU think paris has a high quality of life, I think it's abysmal and wouldn't wish it on an enemy (loss of privacy, substance abuse, ignorant, terrible friends and family, disdain of the masses, does nothing positive with her life, etc).

Again, I'd say Paris' parents fucked her totally. Materialism isn't a good thing. Disconnect from reality isn't a positive influence.

Again and again you talk about things that are 100% subjective as if they had truth beyond your own mind, but they don't. You are in DESPERATE need of subjective awareness.

So based on this you can see where my statement Paris Hilton is "better" than you comes into play. It doesn't matter that you or I are more "intelligent" than Paris, she has other attributes and means that make her "better" than us. Our intelligence is not sufficient to power us past her quality level.

Of course all of this is completely subjective... perhaps you would see an exceptionally intelligent, but illiterate homeless man as equal or better as a human being than Paris Hilton. But I think you would be wrong.

-Max

Sure I can see where it comes into play. You're a shallow, ignorant egoist that can't understand that other people believe or experience anything different than you do.

And you're right, I"m just as bad. I'm an elitist academic prick who WORSHIPS intellect and knowledge the way an evangelical loves Jesus. The difference is that I try not to project my biases...I don't say 'IQ is absolutely correct and meaningful for everyone'...I say it accurately does what it was intended to do and is useful to the people that know what to do with it. You just come out and say it's bullshit. You'd get better mileage just ignoring the topic completely, or qualifying your responses as entirely subjective (ie I have no use for IQ in my life). Trying to apply objective labels based on subjective bias isn't going to accomplish much.
 
May 16, 2000
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The heck? That chart goes down to 1. Pretty sure thats a tomato.

And most of ATOT/Reddit/etc is probably around an 80-85, despite their Holier than Thou attitudes.

Statistically most should be 85-115, same as any other representative set. If we start applying shifts I'd say it's likely to be higher since this is a site dedicated to computer and electronics (including the more intellectual side of them, not consumerism).
 
May 16, 2000
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Actually the ability to advance in any job is set by your starting salary 9 times out of 10.

It's sad, but most employers have a limit of 10-20% they are willing to increase any employee...even those that underwent highly specialized training.

Also once you get to a certain salary threshold, networking really comes into play.

That said too there is a limit any 'job' will bear in salary. One of my 'gifted' friends decided to go for her Master's and then a PhD in social work. She works with poor children. The salary threshold for that job slot is under $50k per year. She is choosing non-monetary compensation for her reward. It's a noble thing, but not for me.

You're defining 'advance' in terms of remuneration. What if we define 'advance' as greater contribution to the field?
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,126
1,603
126
Based upon my "tested" IQ from when I was like 10 years old in the 6th grade, 269,310 (based on 15SD percentile.)

However, I'm not sure it's entirely accurate.
 

JDawg1536

Golden Member
Apr 27, 2006
1,275
0
76
my IQ is slightly over 160, of course there are different scales. Mine was tested professionally and why I was in gifted classes growing up.

SAT and other tests don't really scale to IQ as does neither grades.

Uh huh. And which scale was used? Your IQ is not 160.
 

JDawg1536

Golden Member
Apr 27, 2006
1,275
0
76
t's nice enough to have a 170IQ, but if you use it to develop new forms of planned obsolescence to feed consumerism, or more efficient ways to transfer wealth to the 1%, all it makes you is more efficiently evil - not accomplished and not anything to look up to.

Nobody here has an IQ of 170.
 
May 16, 2000
13,526
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Nobody here has an IQ of 170.

I wasn't saying they did, just picking a number for emphasis. However, you aren't God and don't control who is on this site or what their intelligence is...nor are you knowledgeable enough or capable enough to even make that declaration from reading online posts.
 

JDawg1536

Golden Member
Apr 27, 2006
1,275
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I wasn't saying they did, just picking a number for emphasis. However, you aren't God and don't control who is on this site or what their intelligence is...nor are you knowledgeable enough or capable enough to even make that declaration from reading online posts.

It has nothing to do with reading posts. There are only a few hundred people in the country with an IQ of 170.
 
Feb 6, 2007
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my IQ is slightly over 160, of course there are different scales. Mine was tested professionally and why I was in gifted classes growing up.

SAT and other tests don't really scale to IQ as does neither grades.
As does neither grammar, it turns out is.
 
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