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Noema

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6213 on my Seagate ST380011A ATA-100 (80GB; 7200RPM).
7128 on my Maxtor 6L250P ATA-133 (250GB; 7200RPM).

Both drives are IDE.

 

trOver

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i did bad...... 6600 on a western digital caviar 250gb, 7200rpm, sata2

buying a pair of raptors though... raid 0
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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4x400gb RE2's (RAID 5) = 26,632
2x150gb Raptors (RAID 0) = 31,374
1x74gb Raptor (mobo) = 13,049
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
4x400gb RE2's (RAID 5) = 26,632
2x150gb Raptors (RAID 0) = 31,374
1x74gb Raptor (mobo) = 13,049

The two Raptors RAID0 are right about where I was with a pair on NVRAID on the A8N32SLI with a 3GHz FX60. With a pair on the ARC-1280ML with 2GB cache it jumped to about 36k. As more drives were added it scaled perfectly. With 8 drives it tops 200,000!

 

KeithTalent

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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA 2 16MB Cache 320.0 GB @ 7200 RPMS: 9921
 

f4phantom2500

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For some reason, it lists these as my drives:

Logical E:
Logical F:
Physical 0
Physical 1

E is my CD drive, F is a virtual CD drive, so I assume Physicals 0 and 1 are my hard drives (0 master, 1 slave), and I have terrible scores.

Physical 0 (WD800JB) scored an 1810
Physical 1 (WD2000JB) scored a 530

I just defragmented a few minutes ago and there's hardly anything on the 80GB drive, and as far as I can tell my system isn't suffering from slow drives. I'm rerunning this tests and my scores are always around these numbers, within a couple hundred points at least. This may be a dumb question, but would the fact that I'm testing the stability of my X2's overclock with 2 instances of Prime95 right now have anything to do with these abysmal hard drive scores?
 

Madwand1

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Originally posted by: Minerva
The two Raptors RAID0 are right about where I was with a pair on NVRAID on the A8N32SLI with a 3GHz FX60. With a pair on the ARC-1280ML with 2GB cache it jumped to about 36k. As more drives were added it scaled perfectly. With 8 drives it tops 200,000!

I hope I don't sound jealous and bitter (although I kinda am..), but I think these numbers are somewhat hokey. The tool uses 64k access, which is fine for typical use, but not all that's seen, and some RAID arrays will give real-world non-cached performance that is better than what's reported by the tool. In addition, the 2 GB controller cache part likely tricks the tool into producing results that are far better than what would be seen -- here I assume that the tool deliberately turns off the system file caching to get more meaningful results, but this doesn't work for the controller cache.

Edit: Also, as a file-system level tool, the performance would depend quite a lot on what's already on the file system, so a new/empty drive / array will measure quite a bit better than an old/full one.

Edit2: Please take the above with a grain of salt. This is a random utility with no documentation or source code that I can see, so it's hard to say what it's actually doing. Just a couple of guesses I've thrown out; could easily be wrong.

Edit3: It looks like the tool doesn't work at the file system level, so ignore edit (1) (but still consider edit (2)). I've re-confirmed that the tool significantly under-reports performance compared to other tools and actual usage in some cases with RAID arrays. I guess now that Minerva's high-end setup is able to overcome these aspects of the tool. 500+ MB/s is not unreasonable for such a setup, provided that enough/large enough requests get to the drives in time.
 

chizow

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Jun 26, 2001
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15,060 on Raptor X 150GB #1
15,534 on Raptor X 150GB #2

Results don't surprise me though, #2 was made Jan 2007 and is MUCH quieter than #1 which was made in Jan 2006.....

I bought them within a month of each other, #2 was a retail kit from BB, #1 was OEM from Newegg. Thinking about RMA'ing #1 and bitching. There's a reason Newegg is running constant promos on those overpriced OEM Raptors.
 

T9D

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9720


Maxtor 320 gig


10466

Raptor old 36 gig


The old raptor is not so great compared to newer drives now. And it's loud as crud. But as old as it is it's still good considering. And comparing them to other peoples older 7200 drives.
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: Madwand1
Originally posted by: Minerva
The two Raptors RAID0 are right about where I was with a pair on NVRAID on the A8N32SLI with a 3GHz FX60. With a pair on the ARC-1280ML with 2GB cache it jumped to about 36k. As more drives were added it scaled perfectly. With 8 drives it tops 200,000!

I hope I don't sound jealous and bitter (although I kinda am..), but I think these numbers are somewhat hokey. The tool uses 64k access, which is fine for typical use, but not all that's seen, and some RAID arrays will give real-world non-cached performance that is better than what's reported by the tool. In addition, the 2 GB controller cache part likely tricks the tool into producing results that are far better than what would be seen -- here I assume that the tool deliberately turns off the system file caching to get more meaningful results, but this doesn't work for the controller cache.

Edit: Also, as a file-system level tool, the performance would depend quite a lot on what's already on the file system, so a new/empty drive / array will measure quite a bit better than an old/full one.

Edit2: Please take the above with a grain of salt. This is a random utility with no documentation or source code that I can see, so it's hard to say what it's actually doing. Just a couple of guesses I've thrown out; could easily be wrong.

Edit3: It looks like the tool doesn't work at the file system level, so ignore edit (1) (but still consider edit (2)). I've re-confirmed that the tool significantly under-reports performance compared to other tools and actual usage in some cases with RAID arrays. I guess now that Minerva's high-end setup is able to overcome these aspects of the tool. 500+ MB/s is not unreasonable for such a setup, provided that enough/large enough requests get to the drives in time.

The results are similar with other popular utilities such as ATTO, HD Tach, I/O Meter, COSBI, DriveBench. Sandra gets an i/o error for some reason. I've tested with the system half full of video data (about 600 gb's) with no difference too. The host's IOP and large write back cache has a large effect obviously but definitely translates into real world multitasking ability. For example even with just a single raptor the system was much much more responsive than with the same drive on the Intel AHCI controller on the motherboard. It seemed like adding more drives would only make it faster with copying huge amounts of data but no it makes it faster all the way around.

The main problem with 2GB cache memory and a single drive is the write speed of a single raptor is about 70MB/S or so and much lower if random. The controller is quite intelligent and will not use the cache in a manner that would require dumping all 2GB to the single drive when a flush is required. This would make the system periodically non responsive which defeats the purpose of a high performance storage system.

So when adding drives, the STR increases linearly and the cache can be used in a more efficient manner. This increases overall performance dramatically. There is virtually no difference in opening pig programs like Photoshop CS2 and Premiere Pro 2.0 when cached by the OS and for the first time! It's the closest thing to solid state storage one can get without spending a small fortune. I like it.

 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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How long is your boot time with a 2gb stick on that RAID controller? hehe I'm suprised the boot time on the Areca cards is so short. I still can't believe the fireware software--wow, that stuff is pretty crappy. But it works, I guess. I'm definitely happy with everything on the else on the card though.
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
How long is your boot time with a 2gb stick on that RAID controller? hehe I'm suprised the boot time on the Areca cards is so short. I still can't believe the fireware software--wow, that stuff is pretty crappy. But it works, I guess. I'm definitely happy with everything on the else on the card though.

Ah yes the $64,000 boot time question! Not any longer than your typical SCSI setup. I made a video of it here.

The noise in the background is not from the system. The boiler maintenance team was below operating a big crane hehe.

The card has its own NIC and it pulls an IP from our AD domain so we assigned a pointer to it and can go to any pc on the network and manage the arrays. We can even change stripe size non destructively! It takes about 2 1/2 hours to realign the data on a 1200gb array. :Q



 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I got 9114 with my 3x80GB WD SATA drives in RAID 0.

What card and stripe size? That doesn't sound right. A fast single drive such as a 7200.10 will pull ~ 10k.

EDIT: If you're running anything in the background that's resource intensive it will most likely skew the results. If the background processes are accessing the disk it most definitely will skew the results.

 

F1shF4t

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raptor 36gig 8mg - 11179
raptor 74gig 8mg - 13129
seagate 7200.10 320gig sata 2 - 9792
seagate 7200.10 250gig ide - 9799
wd 200 gig 8mg sata 2 #1 - 7599
wd 200 gig 8mg sata 1 #2 - 6927
 
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