Potent Pot

[imported_hscorpio]

This thread needs :camera:'s for reference.

This is low quality pot usually called schwag.

This is high quality "potent pot" refered to by many names like dank and chronic.

Here is some hash..

Here is a "high tech" grow room.

These plants are ready to be
harvested.

Here is a vaporizer often used in the medical marijuana clubs in Oakland, CA.

Guess what Eli Lilly use to sell before prozac.
Wierd Johnson & Johnson ad..

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Who's watching your child when you and your husband are getting high?

Who was watching you, when your parents were having sex , after they had you? Or they never did, seeing what came out? Riprorin, are you really looking for a flame war?

Take your head out of your ass. Smoking a pipe (not even a joint) on a week-end evening, when there are friends around, or when you just want to have fun (all while the child is in another room) is just as natural as having a good glass of wine, brandy or champagne, some ice-cream chocolate or a few servings of caviar.

Am I looking for a flame war? No. But apparently you are.

I think that the fact you are so defensive says a lot. It tells me that in your heart of hearts you know that it's not right to get stoned when you have a young child in your home.

Rip, you are getting very rude. I know you're a parent and you have your ways of raising a child, but it's not your place to question the parenting skills of another person you barely know.

TuxDave, how have I been rude?

 

[bamacre]

Rip, you haven't been rude, just ignorant.

 

[Sassy]

Originally posted by: kissnup
I?m in the middle as far a legalizing or not legalizing pot. My first thought is not to legalize. Does society really need another mind-altering drug that is easily accessible at our nearby liquor store? Yet, if we look at this realistically the system we have in place has failed. Our prisons are full, our judicial system is crammed with these cases, and we spend billions of our tax dollars fighting this crime.

The problem here is that many people can't seem to realize/admit that marijuana prohibition is a HUGE failure. Some people think that marijuana being illegal actually stops people from smoking it. This is not the case. Marijuana is already widely available and used. It's not like the laws against pot are a dam holding off the eventual flood of marijuana use if it were legal. The people who want to use pot can and do regardless of the law.........

Those people should really get out of the house more.

Personally I don?t have a beef with pot.
I haven?t smoked it in years and don?t plan on starting up if it should become legal. Although I?m hesitant to introduce another mind-altering drug that is freely available to all of society, if it came up on a ballot, I would vote ?yes? to get it off the streets and regulate and purify it. Yet, there is a danger in voting to just legalize pot. The drug problem in the streets will still exist. The drug dealers aren?t going to just pack up and go home. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, the harder more addicting drugs will be pushed on our kids. How many are willing to legalize these drugs?

 

[Vic]

Question: What's the difference between the guy who comes home from work and drinks a couple of beers and the guy who comes home from work and smokes a bong hit?

Answer: NONE.

Did you only have a couple glasses of wine at dinner? You might fool yourself with propaganda and laws, but there is no moral difference between you and the pot smoker. None.


kissnup, is there an alcohol problem with dealers pushing alcohol to kids on our streets? "Hey kid, wanna buy a fifth?" No. I wonder why not....
The solution to the drug problem is counterintuitive, because the government cannot control the distribution of a substance it has outlawed. Legalization and strict regulation returns that control.
It also allows the people to regain the practical utilizations of the substance. For example, hemp could help our country greatly reduce its dependence on foreign oil. Because an acre of hemp can be used to make more paper in one year than a forest of trees can in 40 years, it could greatly help us with the forest management issue.
But Oh No! a couple of people might get high and we can't allow that! :roll:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Gen Stonewall

No offense, but you are niave on the subject. Many more people than you would expect smoke pot. In fact, most of the people I know (young and old) smoke pot. And I'm not just hanging around stoners.

A different background than me come from you do. But if smoke pot you do, as jumbled as these sentences your brain will become.

Yoda?

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Rip, you haven't been rude, just ignorant.

:thumbsup:

when someone is told a good 10 times a day this, most normal people would consider the statement.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Tylanner
My take.

There is no doubt more people would do pot if it were legal.

Legalizing Pot would almost instatly convert ciggers to pot heads.

I believe legalization of pot would have a disaterous effect on our education system as a whole.

Also it would only send us down a "slippery slope" of legalizing more and more drugs.

Wow, how can one person be so wrong on so many points?

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: bamacre
Rip, you haven't been rude, just ignorant.

:thumbsup:

when someone is told a good 10 times a day this, most normal people would consider the statement.

I'm ignorant because I think that it's wrong to get high when you have a small child in your home under your care?

Please explain.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: bamacre
Rip, you haven't been rude, just ignorant.

:thumbsup:

when someone is told a good 10 times a day this, most normal people would consider the statement.

I'm ignorant because I think that it's wrong to get high when you have a small child in your home under your care?

Please explain.

My dad still smokes up, at the age of 48. He is president of a company. I do not somke up but my friends do. My dad was an excellent father to me, you have to be pretty ignorant to think that pot has any affect of parenting or anyhting for that matter.

Tell me why it is wrong to get high if you have children and i'll consider it.
My friends and i are living proof that pot has zero effect on goals, success, intellect, or anything of the sort.

I would rather a parent have the odd joint than an alcoholic or smoker in the house. You are criticizing the wrong people if you truely want to criticise parenting with drugs in the house.

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: bamacre
Rip, you haven't been rude, just ignorant.

:thumbsup:

when someone is told a good 10 times a day this, most normal people would consider the statement.

I'm ignorant because I think that it's wrong to get high when you have a small child in your home under your care?

Please explain.

I bet you believe all those commercials that show people getting high and running over children, getting pregnant, etc. That is not what happens normally unless your really stupid. I am willing to wager that you have never even experienced smoking it so you really have no frame of reference.

 

[Sassy]

Originally posted by: Vic
Question: What's the difference between the guy who comes home from work and drinks a couple of beers and the guy who comes home from work and smokes a bong hit?

Answer: NONE.

Did you only have a couple glasses of wine at dinner? You might fool yourself with propaganda and laws, but there is no moral difference between you and the pot smoker. None.


kissnup, is there an alcohol problem with dealers pushing alcohol to kids on our streets? "Hey kid, wanna buy a fifth?" No. I wonder why not....
The solution to the drug problem is counterintuitive, because the government cannot control the distribution of a substance it has outlawed. Legalization and strict regulation returns that control.
It also allows the people to regain the practical utilizations of the substance. For example, hemp could help our country greatly reduce its dependence on foreign oil. Because an acre of hemp can be used to make more paper in one year than a forest of trees can in 40 years, it could greatly help us with the forest management issue.
But Oh No! a couple of people might get high and we can't allow that! :roll:

Vic is your entire post in response to mine above you? I agree with your answers to the first two questions. So what?s your point? Regarding the alochol question, my answer is no, because it's legal. So what's your point?

Ah?.I see the hemp posts. I overlooked them because I was concentrating on my discussion with CK. Like many people, not only on just this thread but everywhere, we are looking specifically at the drug and not the value of the plant. You?ve sparked my interest. I?m going to do some reading on the plant and history of MJ.

I don?t have any problem with the casual social drinker or pot smoker. I?m concerned with people who consistently abuse a drug/s or alcohol and how this may effect the individual and others. Why shouldn?t I be?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: kissnup
Vic is your entire post in response to mine above you? I agree with your answers to the first two questions. So what?s your point? Regarding the alochol question, my answer is no, because it's legal. So what's your point?

Ah?.I see the hemp posts. I overlooked them because I was concentrating on my discussion with CK. Like many people, not only on just this thread but everywhere, we are looking specifically at the drug and not the value of the plant. You?ve sparked my interest. I?m going to do some reading on the plant and history of MJ.

I don?t have any problem with the casual social drinker or pot smoker. I?m concerned with people who consistently abuse a drug/s or alcohol and how this may effect the individual and others. Why shouldn?t I be?

I'm honestly not concerned with the pot smoker. I don't smoke the crap and I don't really care if other people decide to do so. It's their life, not mine. I know for a fact that it is much milder than alcohol, and that's legal, so what's the big deal?

What I am concerned about is the value of the plant itself, and that the current laws do not allow the plant to be utilized, not even for industrial or medicinal uses (there is legal industrial-grade hemp [zero THC] in the US, but the regulations and risk of misguided prosecution for growing it in America are so prohibitive that no one does it -- all those hemp shirts and other products that you see are made from industrial-grade hemp grown in Canada). But OTOH cocaine derivatives are used widely in medicine. Ever get a filling at the dentist? Then you have had a cocaine synthetic injected into your body. It's called novocaine for a reason, yaknow.
Hemp has a wide number of beneficial medical and commercial uses, and these are being wasted because of irrational paranoia and fear about drug use, and ridiculously about a drug who effects are relatively benign. What if rubbing alcohol, cough medicine, or mouthwash were made illegal just because some people got drunk? Would you agree with that? Because that is the same issue we have today and have had for the past 60-odd years with hemp. It's ridiculous.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: kissnup

Personally I don?t have a beef with pot.
I haven?t smoked it in years and don?t plan on starting up if it should become legal. Although I?m hesitant to introduce another mind-altering drug that is freely available to all of society, if it came up on a ballot, I would vote ?yes? to get it off the streets and regulate and purify it. Yet, there is a danger in voting to just legalize pot. The drug problem in the streets will still exist. The drug dealers aren?t going to just pack up and go home. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, the harder more addicting drugs will be pushed on our kids. How many are willing to legalize these drugs?

Here is my plan should I become King ;
Legalize and regulate pot. Do it amsterdam coffee-shop stlye where shops must follow strict licensing/regulations and can not sell alcohol with the pot. Age limit of 21 (maybe 18). Strict fines/jail for people caught selling to minors. Anyone can grow it but you need a license to sell/distribute just like home made beer. Commercial growers must be licensed. Impose civil penalties/fines on anyone who sells unlicensed.

Have strict advertising regulations. This means no pot commercials on TV or radio whatsoever. All pot sales will have a tax that goes towards drug education/treatment programs and PSA's not to smoke and drive. The point is to create an atmosphere opposite of the current alcohol one where you see half-naked hot chicks in beer commercials promoting drug use to young people.

Warning labels must be on any pot package with health warnings like not to smoke while pregnant, etc.

Now with pot out of the black market we can focus more resources on the hard drugs. Specifically more money for proper education (not scare tactics/misinformation) and addiction treatment. These drugs would remain illegal though.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: kissnup

Ah?.I see the hemp posts. I overlooked them because I was concentrating on my discussion with CK. Like many people, not only on just this thread but everywhere, we are looking specifically at the drug and not the value of the plant. You?ve sparked my interest. I?m going to do some reading on the plant and history of MJ.

I don?t have any problem with the casual social drinker or pot smoker. I?m concerned with people who consistently abuse a drug/s or alcohol and how this may effect the individual and others. Why shouldn?t I be?

Be very selective in researching the marijuana issue. There is a lot of misinformation on both sides. Some people insist that hemp is a some type of wonder crop that will cure all of societies ills. A good place to start is that book i linked to earlier called "smoke & mirrors" by Dan Baum. I read that book for a school research paper about marijuana and have been fascinated with the topic ever since, and I don't even smoke it.

Also some of the studies into the harm of marijuana need to be looked at very skeptically. One study I can think of tried to prove pot is as addictive as heroin/cocaine by injecting huge dosages of THC into rats brains and then injecting an inhibitor that makes the drug innactive. This caused the rats to show withdrawal symptoms similar to heroin addicted rats. But the main reason pot is probably not addictive is that it slowly leaves the users system, not rapidly like cocaine or alcohol.

So the study was pointless in real world use of marijuana, but they did what they had to so they could claim pot is physically addictive. From what I've read it is all but impossible to get govt permission to do a pot study today unless the researchers clearly show they are biased and plan on proving some harmful aspect of pot.

I think we all should be concerned with the abuse of drugs. The reason pot is IMHO a safer drug than most is because even when abused it does not cause much harm to the user or society. I know plenty of pot abusers that are doing just fine in life. Compare heavy pot abuse to heavy alcohol abuse. It's not even close.

 

[Sassy]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: kissnup

Personally I don?t have a beef with pot.
I haven?t smoked it in years and don?t plan on starting up if it should become legal. Although I?m hesitant to introduce another mind-altering drug that is freely available to all of society, if it came up on a ballot, I would vote ?yes? to get it off the streets and regulate and purify it. Yet, there is a danger in voting to just legalize pot. The drug problem in the streets will still exist. The drug dealers aren?t going to just pack up and go home. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, the harder more addicting drugs will be pushed on our kids. How many are willing to legalize these drugs?

Here is my plan should I become King ;
Legalize and regulate pot. Do it amsterdam coffee-shop stlye where shops must follow strict licensing/regulations and can not sell alcohol with the pot. Age limit of 21 (maybe 18). Strict fines/jail for people caught selling to minors. Anyone can grow it but you need a license to sell/distribute just like home made beer. Commercial growers must be licensed. Impose civil penalties/fines on anyone who sells unlicensed.

Have strict advertising regulations. This means no pot commercials on TV or radio whatsoever. All pot sales will have a tax that goes towards drug education/treatment programs and PSA's not to smoke and drive. The point is to create an atmosphere opposite of the current alcohol one where you see half-naked hot chicks in beer commercials promoting drug use to young people.

Warning labels must be on any pot package with health warnings like not to smoke while pregnant, etc.

Now with pot out of the black market we can focus more resources on the hard drugs. Specifically more money for proper education (not scare tactics/misinformation) and addiction treatment. These drugs would remain illegal though.

If you only knew how much I appreciate your opinion. I'm really torn on this issue. I've seen too many kids strung out on drugs. It's hearbreaking. What your saying regarding the harder drugs gives me a different perspective. I'm wondering if the government has tried various tactics in fighting the war on drugs or have we been using the same approach for years. I'll have to do a search on this. I'm also going to look at what other countries are doing to fight their war on drugs and how effective they have been.

I've considered the Amsterdam approach on pot but I'm not familiar with all their laws.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: kissnup
If you only knew how much I appreciate your opinion. I'm really torn on this issue. I've seen too many kids strung out on drugs. It's hearbreaking. What your saying regarding the harder drugs gives me a different perspective. I'm wondering if the government has tried various tactics in fighting the war on drugs or have we been using the same approach for years. I'll have to do a search on this. I'm also going to look at what other countries are doing to fight their war on drugs and how effective they have been.

I've considered the Amsterdam approach on pot but I'm not familiar with all their laws.

There's good reason to be torn on this issue and I'm glad my perspective is useful to you.

The government has taken the same approach and refuses to change strategy even in the face of abysmal failure in regards to controlling illegal drugs, especially marijuana. There is strong govt resistance to any changes in the marijuana laws and many buracracies are entrenched in the current drug war regardless of results. There were multiple marijuana initiatives this election cycle and the drug czar actively and successfully campaigned against them all.

Currently the medical marijuana issue is being decided by the supreme court in Ashcroft v. Raich.

Interesting things are taking place in Canada right now too. Vancouver has the nickname of Vansterdam because pot use is so common/accepted there. Recently a shop on a main street in Vancouver was openly selling pot and hash just like in Amsterdam. The shop was called "Da Kine" and continued to sell pot openly for months before excessive media attention resulted in the police shutting them down. Many people predict canada will decriminalize pot pretty soon.

In spain pot is pretty much legal. Also the UK recently lowered cannabis offenses so that possession is similar to a traffic ticket I think. The netherlands of course has had decrim pot for a long time. Note that the Europeans have lower rates of pot use even though they have more leniant laws. They also tend to have higher rates of alcohol/tobacco use than the US though.

Here's some interesting links;
PBS marijuana timeline
Asset forfeiture is a nasty tool in the war on drugs

 

[LtPage1]

the 41% statistic is meaningless. if you asked how many high school students have had sex, youd probably get an 80% "yes" rate, when the real number is closer to 20%.

 

[BBond]

U.S. Supreme Court set to hear California medical marijuana case

OAKLAND, Calif. On Monday, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a case that will determine whether patients in eleven states can use marijuana for medical purposes.
Montana voters approved a medical marijuana law in the November 2nd election.

At issue is whether states have the right to adopt such laws -- allowing the use of drugs the federal government has banned -- or whether federal drug agents can arrest people for the state-approved use of marijuana.

The Bush administration maintains those laws violate federal drug rules, and asserts that marijuana has no medical value.

California passed the nation's first so-called medical marijuana law in 1996, allowing patients to smoke and grow marijuana with a doctor's recommendation.

Other states with such laws are Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: kissnup

Personally I don?t have a beef with pot.
I haven?t smoked it in years and don?t plan on starting up if it should become legal. Although I?m hesitant to introduce another mind-altering drug that is freely available to all of society, if it came up on a ballot, I would vote ?yes? to get it off the streets and regulate and purify it. Yet, there is a danger in voting to just legalize pot. The drug problem in the streets will still exist. The drug dealers aren?t going to just pack up and go home. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, the harder more addicting drugs will be pushed on our kids. How many are willing to legalize these drugs?

Here is my plan should I become King ;
Legalize and regulate pot. Do it amsterdam coffee-shop stlye where shops must follow strict licensing/regulations and can not sell alcohol with the pot. Age limit of 21 (maybe 18). Strict fines/jail for people caught selling to minors. Anyone can grow it but you need a license to sell/distribute just like home made beer. Commercial growers must be licensed. Impose civil penalties/fines on anyone who sells unlicensed.

Have strict advertising regulations. This means no pot commercials on TV or radio whatsoever. All pot sales will have a tax that goes towards drug education/treatment programs and PSA's not to smoke and drive. The point is to create an atmosphere opposite of the current alcohol one where you see half-naked hot chicks in beer commercials promoting drug use to young people.

Warning labels must be on any pot package with health warnings like not to smoke while pregnant, etc.

Now with pot out of the black market we can focus more resources on the hard drugs. Specifically more money for proper education (not scare tactics/misinformation) and addiction treatment. These drugs would remain illegal though.

What he said, but considering how much control we have over America's underage drinkers... I don't think the laws that you have would be enforced.

 

[Howard]

Tabb, debate is give and take. If you refuse to acknowledge anything the other side presents, what's the point?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: kissnup

Personally I don?t have a beef with pot.
I haven?t smoked it in years and don?t plan on starting up if it should become legal. Although I?m hesitant to introduce another mind-altering drug that is freely available to all of society, if it came up on a ballot, I would vote ?yes? to get it off the streets and regulate and purify it. Yet, there is a danger in voting to just legalize pot. The drug problem in the streets will still exist. The drug dealers aren?t going to just pack up and go home. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, the harder more addicting drugs will be pushed on our kids. How many are willing to legalize these drugs?

Here is my plan should I become King ;
Legalize and regulate pot. Do it amsterdam coffee-shop stlye where shops must follow strict licensing/regulations and can not sell alcohol with the pot. Age limit of 21 (maybe 18). Strict fines/jail for people caught selling to minors. Anyone can grow it but you need a license to sell/distribute just like home made beer. Commercial growers must be licensed. Impose civil penalties/fines on anyone who sells unlicensed.

Have strict advertising regulations. This means no pot commercials on TV or radio whatsoever. All pot sales will have a tax that goes towards drug education/treatment programs and PSA's not to smoke and drive. The point is to create an atmosphere opposite of the current alcohol one where you see half-naked hot chicks in beer commercials promoting drug use to young people.

Warning labels must be on any pot package with health warnings like not to smoke while pregnant, etc.

Now with pot out of the black market we can focus more resources on the hard drugs. Specifically more money for proper education (not scare tactics/misinformation) and addiction treatment. These drugs would remain illegal though.

What he said, but considering how much control we have over America's underage drinkers... I don't think the laws that you have would be enforced.

And you think the current laws are effectively enforced?

:disgust:

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: TuxDave
Before entering college, drug education made me believe smoking pot the most terrible thing in the world. I never knew what exact effects it had but I had the notion that it was addictive and made people die.

After being in college, I now equate smoking pot with drinking alcohol. As far as I know, they're both bad during pregnancy and has the potential to make the user act stupid. Other than that, I think the health impact of both is probably negative, but not anything as bad as I used to think.

Actually, there's a health benefit to drinking moderate amounts of alcohol.

It was a study centered on red wines right? I think I read the same study. I personally don't drink alcohol not because of its potential bad effects but because I never figured out what was so fun about it. My friends say I go from sober to sick too quickly.

Wine, beer and spirits all reduce the risk of a heart attack if you have 1 serving every day or two. Beyond that, the risk goes up plus there are other health effects.

I'm not recommending the use of alcohol because of th risk of abusing it, but I believe that health benefits a small amount of alcohol are pretty well established.

Is there any reason to use pot other than to get high?

Well how many states have already legalized it for medical purposes, rip?

Why don't you respond to MY post, rip?

Here I'll quote it again for you...

Originally posted by: Riprorin
I want to change hearts and minds.

Rip, people have been smoking marijuana for 1000's of years. Do you think they are going to all just stop, because it's unhealthy, or because it causes temporary memory loss? Or because some study shows how ignorant it can be? If you believe that, you're dumber than I thought.

While you are trying to "change the hearts and minds," the current system in place is costing this country many billions of dollars every year, not just in enforcing the laws, but in lost taxes. Do you know how big the marijuana business is? Probably not, because you obviously have no earthly idea just how many people consume it. In many, MANY, neighborhoods, it is easier for children to obtain marijuana than alcohol, and that's why we have so many teens trying it. More so than they will admit to.

Why don't you stop trying to "change hearts and minds," and look at ways in solving the actual problems.

Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, and it sure as hell aint working for marijuana, either.

Look at our schools and look how many kids are smoking weed, look how many are abusing it. That is life under the current system, and that is a fact, and I'd like to make it better. You don't seem to want to change anything, except for human nature. And you're a damn fool if you think you can change that.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: kissnup

Personally I don?t have a beef with pot.
I haven?t smoked it in years and don?t plan on starting up if it should become legal. Although I?m hesitant to introduce another mind-altering drug that is freely available to all of society, if it came up on a ballot, I would vote ?yes? to get it off the streets and regulate and purify it. Yet, there is a danger in voting to just legalize pot. The drug problem in the streets will still exist. The drug dealers aren?t going to just pack up and go home. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, the harder more addicting drugs will be pushed on our kids. How many are willing to legalize these drugs?

Here is my plan should I become King ;
Legalize and regulate pot. Do it amsterdam coffee-shop stlye where shops must follow strict licensing/regulations and can not sell alcohol with the pot. Age limit of 21 (maybe 18). Strict fines/jail for people caught selling to minors. Anyone can grow it but you need a license to sell/distribute just like home made beer. Commercial growers must be licensed. Impose civil penalties/fines on anyone who sells unlicensed.

Have strict advertising regulations. This means no pot commercials on TV or radio whatsoever. All pot sales will have a tax that goes towards drug education/treatment programs and PSA's not to smoke and drive. The point is to create an atmosphere opposite of the current alcohol one where you see half-naked hot chicks in beer commercials promoting drug use to young people.

Warning labels must be on any pot package with health warnings like not to smoke while pregnant, etc.

Now with pot out of the black market we can focus more resources on the hard drugs. Specifically more money for proper education (not scare tactics/misinformation) and addiction treatment. These drugs would remain illegal though.

What he said, but considering how much control we have over America's underage drinkers... I don't think the laws that you have would be enforced.

And you think the current laws are effectively enforced?

:disgust:

Where did I say that I think the current laws are effectively enforced (Reffering to underage drinking).

 

[Tab]

Bamacre, explain to me why the United States should infact legalize (or decriminalize) the use a harmfull product, WITHOUT bringing other drugs or products into the conversation. After all, we are talking about pot not anything else.