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gorcorps

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That sounds like a tremendous amount of space for a single guy. IMO you can find nice houses for less and that'd be a better first start. That's just me though... more house is just more things that need to be monitored, cleaned, and repaired. It sounds like you may have the money to hire a cleaner and possibly landscaper, but that's still a lot.
 

repoman0

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Any update on your thoughts? I'm also 27 and starting to think about buying in the greater Boston area. Price range would be ~$600k for ~1500 sqft and hopefully 1-2 car garage. I live alone in a small apartment for $1700 and my girlfriend lives in a smaller apartment with a roommate for $1350. We could put down 5% and pay PMI for the maximum amount of time and still come out ahead right now, let alone in the future as rent prices increase.

The only thing that makes me hesitate is we may move away from the area in 2-4 years, at least temporarily. My idea is that we wouldn't sell the house, since property here is scarce and valuable and IMO always will be, but we will rent it out while we're off on some adventure living somewhere else and keep it to move back into later.
 

NetWareHead

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Any update on your thoughts? I'm also 27 and starting to think about buying in the greater Boston area. Price range would be ~$600k for ~1500 sqft and hopefully 1-2 car garage. I live alone in a small apartment for $1700 and my girlfriend lives in a smaller apartment with a roommate for $1350. We could put down 5% and pay PMI for the maximum amount of time and still come out ahead right now, let alone in the future as rent prices increase.

The only thing that makes me hesitate is we may move away from the area in 2-4 years, at least temporarily. My idea is that we wouldn't sell the house, since property here is scarce and valuable and IMO always will be, but we will rent it out while we're off on some adventure living somewhere else and keep it to move back into later.


Its one thing to own and another thing to landlord. Can this property pull rents that pay the expenses and even make you some money? Do you have a good lease and maybe a lawyer to review it? Are you ready to deal with tenant emergencies, from afar? Do you have a reliable plumber and other good tradesmen that you can call on? Are you able to evict someone even in the worst of circumstances e.g. a family with children at xmas? Do you understand all the tax implications surrounding this situation?
 

repoman0

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Its one thing to own and another thing to landlord. Can this property pull rents that pay the expenses and even make you some money? Do you have a good lease and maybe a lawyer to review it? Are you ready to deal with tenant emergencies, from afar? Do you have a reliable plumber and other good tradesmen that you can call on? Are you able to evict someone even in the worst of circumstances e.g. a family with children at xmas? Do you understand all the tax implications surrounding this situation?

Buying a "rentable" property would be on the list of things to be looking out for when searching. I am fairly familiar with what will rent and for how much in the areas closer to Boston and train lines, but a little less familiar with what prices are like where I'll be looking (i.e. slightly further out but still easily commutable to Boston for work or a night out). One thing I've thought of is buying a three bedroom house even though I really only need one or two at most -- rent prices around here are very much proportional to number of bedrooms.

The greater boston area has a standard lease that is pretty good so all set there. I have thought about dealing with emergencies and having good people to call, and possibly even a property manager. To me, even if the mortgage and expenses aren't totally paid for each month by the rent brought in, I consider it an investment in the future and will do everything I can to keep tenants happy and the place in good shape.

Not sure about the tax implications so I will keep that in mind ...
 

compguy786

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Any update on your thoughts? I'm also 27 and starting to think about buying in the greater Boston area. Price range would be ~$600k for ~1500 sqft and hopefully 1-2 car garage. I live alone in a small apartment for $1700 and my girlfriend lives in a smaller apartment with a roommate for $1350. We could put down 5% and pay PMI for the maximum amount of time and still come out ahead right now, let alone in the future as rent prices increase.

The only thing that makes me hesitate is we may move away from the area in 2-4 years, at least temporarily. My idea is that we wouldn't sell the house, since property here is scarce and valuable and IMO always will be, but we will rent it out while we're off on some adventure living somewhere else and keep it to move back into later.

My thoughts remain the same so far. Im saving for the biggest purchase of my life, which most likely at this time is a house. Property values are going up by a good amount here and houses are getting more pricier by the day. $77k is alot of money to throw down, but i want to move forward with it because i hope it it will pay off (no pun intended) I just hope im not making the wrong decision, and i feel like im not.
 

JTsyo

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That's a lot of space for one guy. If you are not having a SO move in, I would suggest renting out a room or two. Not only would it help with income but having others around will be good at this stage.
 

skull

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My thoughts remain the same so far. Im saving for the biggest purchase of my life, which most likely at this time is a house. Property values are going up by a good amount here and houses are getting more pricier by the day. $77k is alot of money to throw down, but i want to move forward with it because i hope it it will pay off (no pun intended) I just hope im not making the wrong decision, and i feel like im not.

You realize its quite possible we're back at the height of the market again right? As a contractor I get tired of hearing it costs that much?! We can't afford this place as it is we got screwed already by the real estate crash blah blah. As someone that bought a fixer upper last year. I hope prices are up still up next year when I can cash out tax free. If not the mortgage on my 2 bed house that was a tenth the price of what your trying to buy is great.
 

rh71

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Typically people buy a house in a specific area for good schools. That's ultimately what drives a lot of families to be where they are. In my opinion, if you don't have this motivating factor, you're better off waiting until you do. Because obviously it's not just the cost of the house you're paying... closing costs, interest, home maintenance & upgrades, and of course taxes from here on out. You don't want to be facing the decision to move again when it comes time to put kids in school, if you can help it.

Also keep in mind the avg number of years a family spends in one house is 7-8 years. We had no plan to move, but it turns out we moved from our starter house after 7 years. Kids came and we moved because of schools & storage space. Like many, we only bought the starter house because we were starting our lives together and had to move out of our parents'. If your SO isn't a factor either, I would suggest you save your money until later.

You mention marriage and kids soon, but you only mention your money. Wouldn't you have even more money combined at that point to make a better decision especially for future-proofing (ie. bigger house and better school district)? It sounds like you want to jump on this now because it's a good deal and [prices are going up by the day]. This is not the way to make such a big decision especially if you're not up against the wall to do so.
 
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Capt Caveman

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OP is going to buy a 3500 custom home, all for himself? I would look into something that could become investment rental property for when he finally meets someone and they decide to buy a place together.
 
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Don't forget to budget in property tax and home insurance to the mix.

I went from a pretty reasonably priced apartment where all I had to worry about was the monthly rent and utilities to paying slightly higher mortgage and utilities, but then home insurance was like over $2,000 annually compared to renters insurance of $125 annually. Then there's property taxes which was like $6K and continues to go up each year.

Those are expenses that I don't see any equity in, and expenses I never had to pay when renting. Don't get me wrong, building equity with a home purchase is a good thing, no question about that, but just realize there are many extra expenses that come with it compared to renting.
 

compguy786

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OP is going to buy a 3500 custom home, all for himself? I would look into something that could become investment rental property for when he finally meets someone and they decide to buy a place together.

Well that is something that i am thinking about too. I just dont want to be in the market and not be able to afford anything. I was able to save alot of money now and i feel like after marriage and etc that may not be as easy...thus my reasoning on trying to establish now...but idk !
 

compguy786

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Typically people buy a house in a specific area for good schools. That's ultimately what drives a lot of families to be where they are. In my opinion, if you don't have this motivating factor, you're better off waiting until you do. Because obviously it's not just the cost of the house you're paying... closing costs, interest, home maintenance & upgrades, and of course taxes from here on out. You don't want to be facing the decision to move again when it comes time to put kids in school, if you can help it.

Also keep in mind the avg number of years a family spends in one house is 7-8 years. We had no plan to move, but it turns out we moved from our starter house after 7 years. Kids came and we moved because of schools & storage space. Like many, we only bought the starter house because we were starting our lives together and had to move out of our parents'. If your SO isn't a factor either, I would suggest you save your money until later.

You mention marriage and kids soon, but you only mention your money. Wouldn't you have even more money combined at that point to make a better decision especially for future-proofing (ie. bigger house and better school district)? It sounds like you want to jump on this now because it's a good deal and [prices are going up by the day]. This is not the way to make such a big decision especially if you're not up against the wall to do so.

The area that this house is in has everything i need. I feel like it is future proofing to the max. Good Schools, Good area, all high end homes in the neighborhood (Highest one sold at 520k) I dont want to be at the wall. I dont want to make a decision in haste, or atleast in a hurry.
 

Chaotic42

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Are you comfortable enough with your job and/or the career prospects in your area to make such an investment? I should note, I've been really burned in this regard, so I might be a little jaded.
 

KillerCharlie

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I bought a house for $300k at age 27 (single). My thoughts:


- 3500 sq ft is way too much unless you plan on renting room out. I would definitely go smaller unless you absolutely can't find the features you want in a smaller house. Of course my house is half the size of that but more expensive, so it depends on how comfortably you fell with it financially. I have a lot of stuff (including a grand piano that takes up the entire living room) and I don't use all my space.

- Don't worry too much about paying 20% down. I just paid the minimum down (3.5% FHA, hahaha) then refinanced a few years later when my house's value increased 20%. Sure you pay the PMI theat first, but you extend yourself less in the beginning. If something really bad happens and you lose the house, at least you have the extra cash. If the market turns that makes things difficult, but after a few years you'll have the money saved up anyways.

- Think about your career. If you don't expect consistent raises it might be a bit tough. On the other hand, if you expect consistent raises, then 5 years from now your house payments will seem cheap. After my last refinance, my total payment (including taxes and ) is less than a 2 bedroom apartment in the area.

- Factor in the tax deduction for mortgage interest. That is a significant amount of money back (I think it was like 25% of my total payment in the beginning).

- It should be easy to get estimates for taxes and insurance. My insurance cost is hardly anything.

- Don't worry about 15 year loan, especially with today's rates

- Some people think the economy is slowing and the housing market will dump soon - something to think about.

- Make sure you really like the area it's in.

- Now that I have a house, I don't think I can ever go back to an apartment.
 
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