Power Supply Decisions

[Shadow Conception]

ASPIRE ATX-CW500WP4 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148027
($39.99)

or

Thermaltake TR2 W0070 430W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153023
($39.99)

Which one would be the better buy? My future (hopefully) system specs are as follows:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice
Asus A8N5X ATX AMD Mobo
eVGA GeForce 7600GT 256MB
Sound Blastef Live! 24-bit
1.5GB RAM
DVD-RW and DVD-ROM

Looking to play mostly games and standard applications. Sure these are cheap, and you'd recommend to spend a bit more on these PSUs. but I'm on a budget, and therefore, need a budget power supply unit.

 

[JSFLY]

Thermaltake > Aspire

In Fact:

My Homemade PSU consisting of dirty socks and a dead 12v battery> Aspire

 

[DaveSimmons]

$51 Fortron 450, meets 7900GTX requirements - Negg

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
$51 Fortron 450, meets 7900GTX requirements - Negg

This is the way to go. Don't skimp on your PSU.

 

[Luckyboy1]

/Dave and Eat are so right here. Get at least the Fortron

 

[alcoholbob]

Using a 380W Sonata PSU, no problems, with 7800GTX, 4 hard drives, 2 CD drives, 2 PCI cards and a bunch of powered USB ports : )

Looking at some of the online PSU calculations, my system would only peak at around 330W anyway.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
ASPIRE ATX-CW500WP4 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148027
($39.99)

or

Thermaltake TR2 W0070 430W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153023
($39.99)

Which one would be the better buy? My future (hopefully) system specs are as follows:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice
Asus A8N5X ATX AMD Mobo
eVGA GeForce 7600GT 256MB
Sound Blastef Live! 24-bit
1.5GB RAM
DVD-RW and DVD-ROM

Looking to play mostly games and standard applications. Sure these are cheap, and you'd recommend to spend a bit more on these PSUs. but I'm on a budget, and therefore, need a budget power supply unit.

why those 2 PSU`s?

scratches head...

I`d run with a fortron....
Personally unless your going to pay over $100 i`d stay away from anything thats ThermalTake in the economical price range...and Aspire.....well its your money...

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

A few buck$ more but much better than your linked units.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5240G

If you are willing to pony-up for a $50 Frotron, consider this unit as I do believe it's a step
better. http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-EN5246G

Note the tight regulation of both these units. To eye-ball specs, http://www.enhanceusa.com/ >desktop PSUs.


...Galvanized

(Aspire=Expire )

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I would still look into the Fortron FSP300-60GLS Still the same price, but IMO it probably outputs more wattage than either of your selections. (I could be wrong there) Combine that with Active PFC and 80% minimum efficiency and you have a great PSU. Its also very small. around 20mm less in width and 20mm less in height.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I would still look into the Fortron FSP300-60GLS Still the same price, but IMO it probably outputs more wattage than either of your selections. (I could be wrong there) Combine that with Active PFC and 80% minimum efficiency and you have a great PSU. Its also very small. around 20mm less in width and 20mm less in height.

Do you realize you reccomended a Micro-ATX PSU that will not support what he has or
mount easily in his *ATX* case. Think man!!


...Galvanized

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I would still look into the Fortron FSP300-60GLS Still the same price, but IMO it probably outputs more wattage than either of your selections. (I could be wrong there) Combine that with Active PFC and 80% minimum efficiency and you have a great PSU. Its also very small. around 20mm less in width and 20mm less in height.

Do you realize you reccomended a Micro-ATX PSU that will not support what he has or
mount easily in his *ATX* case. Think man!!


...Galvanized

Sigh* thx. Thinking isn't the best today as im studying for several tests :laugh:. Anyways, try for the Fortron FSP300-60GLN Not available right now from Newegg but im sure its available somewhere else. Sorry, I have to get back to studying! :laugh:

 

[Shadow Conception]

Alright, since everybody seems to be going for the $50 Fortron, I think that's the one I'll stick with. It's only $10 more, so, I think it's worth it. Thanks, everybody

 

[thecoolnessrune]

it looks good to me too. Though I am wary of any PSU without active PFC. I just like it for the voltage correction since my house is kinda bad for brownouts :laugh: It would be nice if it at least had passive PFC though

 

[LIT4]

+3.3V@17A, +5V@25A, +12V1@16A, +12V2@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@3.0A

The Aspire has 2 12v rails go with thae Aspire

 

[LOUISSSSS]

^^ obviously doesn't know anything about psus. dual 12v rails dont provide any performance boost in a psu. aspire makes some of the worst psus in the usa. 2nd the fortron

 

[LIT4]

1) was going by ouput spes notname brand
2) 2 rails woud benefit his system

 

[imported_Reck]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817189003

this is a great psu.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

2 rails dont benefit any system. aspire specs dont mean @#*( they get their specs while testing at 20C in an air conditioned room.

 

[LIT4]

2 rails don't benefit any system? you are hilarious
BTW if foltron is the 2nd worst psu why did u choose 1 for your system? I'm confused?

The psu is the base of a good system, start with that not the cpu or mb

 

[Shadow Conception]

Okay, so, exactly, what is the Fortron, good or bad? And what recommendation can you make for a PSU under $50, if the Fortron really is that bad?

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: LIT4
2 rails don't benefit any system? you are hilarious
BTW if foltron is the 2nd worst psu why did u choose 1 for your system? I'm confused?

The psu is the base of a good system, start with that not the cpu or mb

he's seconding the forton saying go for that one. And 2 rails don't benefit the system. It's only to comply with ATX 2.0 safety specs

 

[LIT4]

how do 2 rails not benefit?
And what I meant is he has a foltron for his system

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: LIT4
how do 2 rails not benefit?
And what I meant is he has a foltron for his system

SilentPCReview (page 3)
"According to the engineers I spoke with, the majority of these 17 models have just one 12V line. They also point out that there are another 20 or so ATX12V v2.0 PSU models on the Intel list, and none of them were tested for the 240VA current limit conformance. My sources say that if these models had been tested, more than half would not conform to the 240VA current limit because they have only one 12V line.

In the last couple of months, my PS engineering sources report, Intel has verbally informed them that the 240VA limit has been removed. A single 12V line is now "officially" approved, never mind what ATX12V v2.2 specifies.

What does all this mean? Essentially, the only potential benefit of dual 12V lines is improved safety, and this is questioned by the engineers I spoke with. There are many downsides to dual 12V lines, including higher cost and the extra headache of ensuring adequate 12V current for all the components in complex, high power systems. For the consumer who is trying to make a choice among the myriad of PSUs available on the retail market today, the most practical approach regarding dual 12V lines and power capacity is to consider only the combined 12V current capacity. (It will certainly be interesting to see how Intel handles this issue in the next version of ATX12V.)"

Cliffs: dual lines don't matter in the real world, just the total 12V amps

 

[LIT4]

"To split the duty up between two (or more) +12V rails, one can use cooler running, cheaper transistors to supply the power. Furthermore, this isolates devices on one rail from another, so EMI introduced by lighting inverters and drive motors can be isolated from sensitive components like the CPU and video card. " JonnyGuru

"Split 12V rails provide most stable current to CPU, GPU , MB and drives." Enermax

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
Okay, so, exactly, what is the Fortron, good or bad? And what recommendation can you make for a PSU under $50, if the Fortron really is that bad?

For that budget, nothing will beat a Fortron until you get to around $100, when the Seasonics take over IMO.