POWERVR Graphics on the ps vita...

[-Slacker-]

... Who makes it? Power PC? It can do dx10.1 (but not dx11), which I thought is an amd trademark of sorts.

Has power PC improved so much that it can now manufacture relatively powerful gpus, or does amd have a hand in this?

 

[BFG10K]

Huh? PowerVR is the company. Nothing to do with PowerPC at all. PowerPC is/was CPU.

 

[badb0y]

Imagination Technologies, they make the GPU core for Apple's A4/A5 as well as other mobile devices.

In fact I think the GPU core used in the PS Vita is the quad core version of the GPU core used in the iPad 2.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR#Series_5XT

PowerVR SGX543MP2(iPad 2) vs PowerVR SGXMP4+(PS Vita)

 

[bunnyfubbles]

you really couldn't google or wiki this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

 

[waffleironhead]

you really couldn't google or wiki this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

Why google it when he has you?

 

[Muyoso]

you really couldn't google or wiki this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

I really don't understand people who do this. Who wants to wait for an answer from a forum when they could have it within seconds.

 

[Schadenfroh]

PowerPC is not a company, it is an ISA.
DirectX is an API suite owned by Microsoft that (along with OpenGL) nVidia, ATI, etc. design their hardware around.

PowerVR is the GPU division of Imagination Technologies.

They are the ones that created the Kyro line of GPUs that used a different approach called tile based rendering, the fanboys of which claimed that it would eventually come to dominate the GPU market and destroy 3dfx, nVidia, ATI, etc. It fizzled and faded into obscurity.

They did get the contract to make the Dreamcast's GPU, after Sega screwed 3dfx over.

 

[tijag]

... Who makes it? Power PC? It can do dx10.1 (but not dx11), which I thought is an amd trademark of sorts.

Has power PC improved so much that it can now manufacture relatively powerful gpus, or does amd have a hand in this?

The funniest thing here is the thought that DX11 is a trademark of AMD...

 

[Nemesis 1]

Ya its Funny Best thing to do is the processor number into Google it will take to their page for that product. WIK info is pretty bad . here is an example
This is from Imagination tech
SGX544 also provides comprehensive market proven support for desktop OpenGL 2.1 (including X11 integration with DRI2, EXA and DRM support), OpenGL ES 1.1 & 2.0, OpenVG 1.1 and OpenCL 1.1 Embedded Profile, offering the widest ranges of supported APIs of any mobile or embedded graphics IP core available today. POWERVR SGX software stacks have passed rigorous Khronos and Microsoft conformance tests, guaranteeing fast time to market with high confidence across the widest range of embedded and desktop operating systems. Software configurations for Linux, Android, MeeGo, Palm's WebOS, Nokia's Maemo, Symbian, Windows Mobile, Samsung's Bada Nucleus, and a variety of other RTOS are all shipping with POWERVR SGX powered devices today.

 

[Nemesis 1]

... Who makes it? Power PC? It can do dx10.1 (but not dx11), which I thought is an amd trademark of sorts.

Has power PC improved so much that it can now manufacture relatively powerful gpus, or does amd have a hand in this?

Yes but that deceptive as it does opencl 1.1 As not alot of these tiny gpus do MS OS

 

[ElFenix]

PowerPC is not a company, it is an ISA.

PowerVR is the GPU division of Imagination Technologies.

They are the ones that created the Kyro line of GPUs that used a different approach called tile based rendering, the fanboys of which claimed that it would eventually come to dominate the GPU market and destroy 3dfx, nVidia, ATI, etc. It fizzled and faded into obscurity.

They did get the contract to make the Dreamcast's GPU, after Sega screwed 3dfx over.

well, they are in a lot of embedded systems and i think intel is using their designs for their gpus now

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thats correct thats why Intel is allowed by imagination to mod their tech so intel can use it in the notebooks and desktops . I don't think others are allowed this exemption.

They have pretty much stayed in the arm market but expanding out now just as arm is . The point is even tho its NOT DX11 it has open cl 1.1

 

[crisium]

Vita is just a suped up Ipad 2.

 

[wahdangun]

especially with the price tag only $250, its so cheap, and destroy any tablet in the market, since its have same architecture as other tablet I can't wait for it to be rooted and instal android in it

 

[Anarchist420]

If I were making a console, I'd use an custom ARM CPU and a customized PowerVR chipset. Nintendo should've used a customized powerVR for the WiiU.

 

[-Slacker-]

Aw crap ... I completely forgot about this thread. Sorry for not being on time to get hit by the shame train ...uh... yeah, I guess I could have spent more than 5 seconds on google before giving up

 

[ElFenix]

If I were making a console, I'd use an custom ARM CPU and a customized PowerVR chipset. Nintendo should've used a customized powerVR for the WiiU.

you mean for the controller?

 

[Acanthus]

If I were making a console, I'd use an custom ARM CPU and a customized PowerVR chipset. Nintendo should've used a customized powerVR for the WiiU.

Using a quad core ARM A-9 would have been a significant drop from an IBM PPC CPU. The quad core and higher A15s aren't ready yet, and it would have delayed the Wii-U at least one full year.

Nintendo is using the lull from the big hardware guys to get an advantage, so it is time sensitive that they got the Wii-U out now.

 

[badb0y]

Now that both the Wii U and PSV are announed i am more looking forward to what will power PS4 and Xbox(3).

Anyone think they are going to have DX11 capabilities?

 

[Acanthus]

Now that both the Wii U and PSV are announed i am more looking forward to what will power PS4 and Xbox(3).

Anyone think they are going to have DX11 capabilities?

They might be DX12 ready.

Both companies have stated that their new consoles are 2-3 years out.

We will be well into Windows 8 and the future iterations of DirectX by then.

 

[busydude]

They might be DX12 ready.

I thought they have totally different [proprietary] API's.. and DirectX is for Windows desktop/laptop OS. Aren't they unrelated?

 

[Anarchist420]

Using a quad core ARM A-9 would have been a significant drop from an IBM PPC CPU. The quad core and higher A15s aren't ready yet, and it would have delayed the Wii-U at least one full year.

Nintendo is using the lull from the big hardware guys to get an advantage, so it is time sensitive that they got the Wii-U out now.

The quad core A15 will be out soon IIRC.

 

[Acanthus]

I thought they have totally different [proprietary] API's.. and DirectX is for Windows desktop/laptop OS. Aren't they unrelated?

Well, it would be "DX12-like" in features and optimizations, if we were to split hairs.

Yes, you are correct.

 

[Acanthus]

The quad core A15 will be out soon IIRC.

I've read that some are sampling, but not shipping yet.

There are a few months of lead time when they actually start shipping until you actually see devices.

There are quad A9s on the way like the Tegra3 relatively soon though (end of the year).

 

[Vesku]

Thats correct thats why Intel is allowed by imagination to mod their tech so intel can use it in the notebooks and desktops . I don't think others are allowed this exemption.

They have pretty much stayed in the arm market but expanding out now just as arm is . The point is even tho its NOT DX11 it has open cl 1.1

Now if only Intel's graphics driver team could make full use of the hardware. That first PowerVR Atom had terrible support, I believe the excuse given was restrictions on software IP use. Not sure if that's the real reason or smoke for a still rough driver team, I mean the hardware license they negotiated seems in Intel's favor so why the flub on software IP?