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[richierich1212]

I saw a picture that shows the Turbo mode enables 2 cores or 4 cores to be ramped up in speed when 6 cores aren't needed.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Then that would be great news. If CPU NB is at 2.4 (20% increase), that would make the Thubans a little better clock for clock than the Denebs, right? Add the turbo functionality, and I can imagine Thuban will be a good deal. Here's to hoping.

It should make them a bit faster, yes, since NB speed affects L3 cache performance and system memory performance. Whether or not Thuban will have a higher NB clockspeed ceiling than C3 Deneb remains to be seen (namely, if they both can OC the NB to about the same speeds, this will not give Thuban a significant ipc advantage for those who dare to overclock).

And yes, it does look like Thuban is going to be a pretty good deal, especially for those who can use the extra cores. It's just interesting that it will have advantages even for those who can not.

 

[justinn]

Are there any i7 980x benches for Bad Company 2 out? Wondering if 6 cores will give any noticeable performance advantage over 4.

 

[jvroig]

Whether or not Thuban will have a higher NB clockspeed ceiling than C3 Deneb remains to be seen

How high is the typical CPU NB clock ceiling of C3 Deneb?

 

[richierich1212]

How high is the typical CPU NB clock ceiling of C3 Deneb?

Seems like the limit is 3GHz on air for most C3 Denebs.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

sweeeeet! so the 1035 could be ~$180 ish? Are they all unlocked?

From what I read only the top end 1090T will be a black edition cpu. They are probably doing this to get enthusiasts to buy the top end part. They might release black edition versions of the slower bins in a couple of months though.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Seems like the limit is 3GHz on air for most C3 Denebs.

Yeah, that's about it. 2.6-3 ghz as opposed to 2.4-2.6 for C2. There were some lucky C2s that went higher, but not many.

I still want to see what a C3 Propus could do NB-wise (my C2 Propus can hit 2.95 ghz NB), but based on my testing, it won't really matter. The 1035T will likely render Propus irrelevant.

 

[Hyperlite]

From what I read only the top end 1090T will be a black edition cpu. They are probably doing this to get enthusiasts to buy the top end part. They might release black edition versions of the slower bins in a couple of months though.

Yes, sorry, i misread your earlier post. that makes sense.

 

[LoneNinja]

Wishing I could afford one of these right now, and actually a new build around it so I can finally go AM3. I probably don't need it, but with a 3.5Ghz Phenom II X4 940 being my best processor, I'm getting an upgrade bug.

 

[Orubasarot]

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[busydude]

If I find an ECC enabled and Sata 6g motherboard then this 6 core business could pass as my next-gen upgrade.

I know that new intel processors do no support ECC memory but, what is ECC btw? and how useful is it for a normal user?

 

[Dark4ng3l]

error correction code. Basically you pay a large premium for something that is pretty much only useful in a server environment where the machines are expected to function continuously for years on end.

 

[TR2000]

I haven't been around here since my last build 5 years till recently per my new build. A quick couple questions how long before you think we will see some reviews and didn't Anandtech use to get CPU samples from AMD and post benchmarks before the CPU hit the retailers?

I just recently upgraded to the 965 BE I am happy with it but I am curious to see how far behind it will lag to the 1035T ($vs$) in video editing to the 6 core. These are some really nice specs and prices on these new 6 cores no doubt way to go AMD. I wish I would of waited a little longer to uprade but I do have the option of e-bay my 965.

 

[Martimus]

I found the source for the turbo feature: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...for_Six_Core_AMD_Phenom_II_X6_Processors.html

More details have also emerged about AMD’s Turbo Core technology. Depending on the actual model and its specifications, AMD Phenom II X6 1000T-series chips will be able to boost their clock-speeds by 400MHz or 500MHz when only half of available cores are active, e.g., microprocessors work in triple-core mode. That said, the model Phenom II X6 1090T at 3.60GHz will most likely outperform the currently available Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition in typical cases.

So turbo is 3 cores, according to X-Bit Labs.

 

[Orubasarot]

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[Dark4ng3l]

If you are having significant stability problems then some ECC memory won't solve it. I have never used ECC memory and I can count the non overclocking induced crashes by my machines in the last 5 years on one hand. And thats with at least 3 different machines being used every day.

 

[Orubasarot]

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[StrangerGuy]

Yeah but when you're doing a live show you'd rather lose some CPU cycles due to error correction slowdown rather than have to reboot your PC. Momentarily stuttering video/audio is way better than no video/audio.

Also I've tried different cpus, motherboards, psus, power conditioners, ram modules/brands, cases/cooling, videocards, HDDs and SSDs, OSes and software. I don't think there's anything that I'm missing here. Every once in a while the planets just align and I get an error, especially with almost 8 gigs of audio samples and video clips loaded. The errors increase with time until I occasionally can't even boot, that's when I RMA. I guess that's not 100% dead but I'm tired of troubleshooting.

Though I have to admit I've crashed Mac Pros too, and those had ECC.

Sorry this is all really offtopic, I don't think I'll preorder these X6s without first seeing some reviews, but it's still really tempting.

Dude, if your PC is crashing like you mentioned ECC won't save you AT ALL. If you want a stable PC, do stability tests before using it for serious stuff.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Dude, if your PC is crashing like you mentioned ECC won't save you AT ALL. If you want a stable PC, do stability tests before using it for serious stuff.

Yeah I would bet user error is the real problem in this case.

 

[Orubasarot]

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[Dark4ng3l]

Don't buy crucial ram if you are having so many problems with them... ?

 

[Orubasarot]

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[Dark4ng3l]

Well i'm not sure exactly how many sticks of ram I have bought over the years but I can tell you that I have never had ram fail on me. The only things I have had fail are cheap PSUs, 1 mobo a CRT and 1 HDD. Oh and one 9800GT killed by the nvidia card killing driver.

I don't know what kind of environment you put your computer in but maybe that is having an impact on the life of your systems or something.

 

[busydude]

Look at them, they're beautiful, so cute just chillin' out like that without some lame ass golden platinum heatsink with lazers.

ROFL.

But seriously, we run huge matlab simulations using dell workstations(no idea which kind of memory) in our lab and also I run smaller simulations at home on my desktop and laptop. I usually get out of memory error but never encountered a failed memory.

Maybe you are 'the chosen one'.Or perhaps just Bad karma.

 

[Martimus]

This thread has nothing to do with memory, please stop discussing the merits or lack thereof of ECC memory in this thread.