Prediction for tonight..

[Red Dawn]

You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Kerry probably will make Bush look stupid, but he'll also make me fall asleep.

Watching Bush speak will probably be more entertaining simply because he's horrible at it.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

You respect Riprorin?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

Yeah, that used to be a problem for me too. Unfortunately the pickings are getting slimmer every day.

Oh, and don't let this small "agreement" get in the way of us being at "odds" with each other

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

You respect Riprorin?

You bet! Even if I disagree with him I have to respect his conviction.

 

[conjur]

Kerry could make his worst speech ever and it would still be 100x better than the best mumblings Bush could ever utter.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Vic
/gazes in crystal ball, predicts that Republicans will do the same thing after GW speaks at the RNC, wonders what the point of this thread was...

/Doesn't need a crystal ball to realize all politicians are corrupt and lie to get what they want.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: conjur
Kerry could make his worst speech ever and it would still be 100x better than the best mumblings Bush could ever utter.

I actually read an article the other day about the debating styles of Bush and Kerry. It made a surprising revelation - Bush actually used to be a good speaker. The author describes the differences between the Bush of today and the Bush from the early 90s

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Kerry probably will make Bush look stupid, but he'll also make me fall asleep.

Watching Bush speak will probably be more entertaining simply because he's horrible at it.

hey, you got it.

bush isn't actually stupid, he's just pretending to be so people will pay attention.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

You respect Riprorin?

You bet! Even if I disagree with him I have to respect his conviction.

Hell, the followers of Rev. Jim Jones had conviction.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

You respect Riprorin?

You bet! Even if I disagree with him I have to respect his conviction.

Hell, the followers of Rev. Jim Jones had conviction.

exactly, and i could say, while i believe their actions to be stupid, i can still respect their conviction.

i see you still don't see the distinction.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

You respect Riprorin?

You bet! Even if I disagree with him I have to respect his conviction.

Hell, the followers of Rev. Jim Jones had conviction.

exactly, and i could say, while i believe their actions to be stupid, i can still respect their conviction.

i see you still don't see the distinction.

I'm just saying conviction isn't always worth respecting.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
No, this has nothing to do with your post, but if you want to get defensive, go ahead. While Conjur may post alot, and sometimes go off tangents, the difference is he usually posts news items, whereas people like the OP like to make sweeping generalized statements of all liberals just so he can get everyone riled up.

Sorry Indie, my bad...guess I am a little overly sensitive tonight given that I find myself constantly having to defend my highly opinionated posts whereas others do not....with your comments on that other ATPN member, while at first I would have agreed with you, it seems the more time that goes by the more partisan that individual has become and now posts as much opinionated drivel as say I do...the only difference is that I am honest about it.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You know what I hate about this forum? I find myself at odds with some people I actually respect.

Red, this has happned to me in a multitude of forums and all I can say is such is life. I post on many many boards (well not all at once but my hobbies interests rotate) some of which include pretty amazing people, seriously wealthy people, and in some cases famous people....all of whom I respect for their knowledge, accomplishments, and also their personalitites....but that never stops me from disagreeing with them from time to time, and truth be told, while they may act like they despise you during the disagreement, in the end we all respect each other more for having our differences and staying committed to our beliefs.

I say viva la difference...

I just find it funny when a few here who don't know me refer to me as trollish ... you and the few who were here when I used to post frequently know that I have always been a royal ace hole ...

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: BDawg

I'm just saying conviction isn't always worth respecting.

you may disagree with the cause but you have to admire the devotion to it, at least if it isn't a cult following or something....you guys like to slam rip but it isn't like he is wearing matching outfits, living in a compound and wearing nike cortez sneakers praying for the mothership...instead he is drawn to conservative ideals and likes to counter some of the more vocal liberals here and the general liberal sentiment that ATPN seems to have., he is also willing to endure a good amount of ridicule and scrutiny from many forum members just to keep putting out his ideas/ideals....granted it is easier to do this over the net...but still something that some might not have it in them.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Crimson


Kerry will offer NOTHING but fluff tonight just like he has the whole campaign so far..

Well, you were spot on.



Pretty fair speech his speech writer wrote for him, but the delivery,,,well it just wasn't there. I saw weakness and that is all I could see. I really tried. If this guy gets himself voted in, I may decide to go north and exploit Canadian socialism for a few years. Any-thing but Kerry

 

[Todd33]

Pretty fair speech his speech writer wrote for him, but the delivery,,,well it just wasn't there. I saw weakness and that is all I could see. I really tried. If this guy gets himself voted in, I may decide to go north and exploit Canadian socialism for a few years. Any-thing but Kerry

Wait, wait. You would vote for G.W. based on delivery though? have you ever seen him talk? Does G.W. write his speeches? Can he write? You right wingers kill me with your double standards.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Crimson


Kerry will offer NOTHING but fluff tonight just like he has the whole campaign so far..

Well, you were spot on.



Pretty fair speech his speech writer wrote for him

He wrote it himself.

 

[element]

Originally posted by: Crimson
The liberals in this forum will be falling over themselves to say how well spoken Kerry is.. how stupid he makes Bush look.. how he will unite America.. how he will fix all the problems in Iraq, how he will mend all of our international relationships.. how he will fix the economy.. how he will create more jobs...

All this, and Kerry will be as partisan as ever, offer no specifics on Iraq, offer no specifics on the economy (Since there is nothing wrong with it), offer no specifics on jobs, taxes, international relations, etc...

But, we will get all the liberals just falling over themselves praising him.. But ultimately it will come down to the standard 'Bush sounds funny so he is stupid' argument that we always get. So, I'll call it right now.. Kerry will offer nothing of substance and the libs will go crazy thinking he did.

Kerry will offer NOTHING but fluff tonight just like he has the whole campaign so far..

And what exactly has Bush offered? 63,000 jobs per month lost in the crappiest job market since the great depression! Going at an expensive war alone due to alienating our allies abroad. Mis-forecasting the cost of the war. Taking a massive budget surplus and squandering it ending up with a huge debt and an uncertain future. I could go on but I have other things to do. Go ahead and fall overyourself answering what I've stated so far.