PREDICTION: Jeb Bush will be nominated and win the next presidential election.

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Ruptga

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If these guys were in charge of hiring a new welder or choosing an auto mechanic, do you think they'd value "new ideas" over experience? But for the most powerful position on the planet, "give us some guy who has literally zero experience in the field." What are you, fucking stupid? The most basic litmus test we use for every other profession on Earth is somehow a bad thing when it comes to judging Presidential candidates? It boggles the mind.

But we need to make America great again because we want hope and change. It doesn't matter how difficult or complex the issues are, we need someone in charge that agrees with what we want to happen and they'll just make it all happen because they're the President and that's their job.

The last thing we want is someone with "experience" because all they know is how to do things the way they've been done lately, and that's the wrong way. What we need is someone with leadership and charisma that isn't afraid to tell everyone to fuck off if they don't like how they're doing things, because they're doing things right.
 

Hugo Drax

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What happens if Trump doesn't leave? He has far more money than Bush and unlike Bush he hasn't had to spend any so far to get Press and top nearly all the polls.

If Bush keeps "laying low" he'll defeat himself.

He will be gone. The whole election process is staged like a reality TV show, all the drama, the close calls etc.

The script calls for Bush 2016. In the meantime go ahead be entertained and believe.
 

chowderhead

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What happens if Trump doesn't leave? He has far more money than Bush and unlike Bush he hasn't had to spend any so far to get Press and top nearly all the polls.

If Bush keeps "laying low" he'll defeat himself.

so Jeb! is trying the Giuliani playbook of doing terribly in the early states so he pulls out and says he is waiting to make his move in Florida? Florida is in Mid-March while more than 20 states have already voted including a large SEC chunk in the South. And Jeb! is now in 4th place in Florida.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
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He will be gone. The whole election process is staged like a reality TV show, all the drama, the close calls etc.

The script calls for Bush 2016. In the meantime go ahead be entertained and believe.

How many Illuminati did you have to blow to acquire this secret script? Or was it just the reptile people whispering secrets into your dreams again? Seriously, if there's a nationwide conspiracy involving literally everyone with power or influence, why the fuck would you have a clue about it? If you somehow did find out and started talking, how long would you expect to live after? A conpsiracy can't exist if outside people know about it, it would just fall apart. That you know all this and it's still going on is proof that it was never going on in the first place.
 

werepossum

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If these guys were in charge of hiring a new welder or choosing an auto mechanic, do you think they'd value "new ideas" over experience? But for the most powerful position on the planet, "give us some guy who has literally zero experience in the field." What are you, fucking stupid? The most basic litmus test we use for every other profession on Earth is somehow a bad thing when it comes to judging Presidential candidates? It boggles the mind.
The only people who really have relevant experience here are Biden and Cheney and Gore, unless the welder's laborer somehow counts as having welding experience. The next closest are the governors, and while I like that idea, can't say I've been too impressed with the last few we've gotten. I do really like Kasich, but Bush . . . While a really bad welder does indeed have welding experience, honestly I'd prefer to train my own rather than hire one who has already performed badly. Remember that massively effective reform in Florida when it was discovered that Child Services employees regularly dined posh with abusive mothers on the public dime without even bothering to make sure the supervised child was still living, when they regularly faked home visit records and cashed bonuses for their heroic efforts? Remember all the people jailed for not protecting the children they were paid AND bonused to protect? Yeah, neither does anyone else. Maybe Bush wouldn't be worse than the Hildabeast - maybe - but I hardly see any value in experience with a job done badly, any more than I see value in experience in turning US influence into Clinton Foundation bucks. Honestly, those are not things anyone has trouble picking up on the job.
 

Ruptga

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A vote for Bush or Hillary is a vote for the status quo.

No question, but even if (for example) Sanders wins it all nothing much will get done without a Congress he can at least talk to. Even then, this system of government we love so much was literally designed to be impossible to wield, so don't expect much.
 

Hugo Drax

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How many Illuminati did you have to blow to acquire this secret script? Or was it just the reptile people whispering secrets into your dreams again? Seriously, if there's a nationwide conspiracy involving literally everyone with power or influence, why the fuck would you have a clue about it? If you somehow did find out and started talking, how long would you expect to live after? A conpsiracy can't exist if outside people know about it, it would just fall apart. That you know all this and it's still going on is proof that it was never going on in the first place.

What the heck are you talking about? Did you forget your meds?
 

Ruptga

Lifer
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What the heck are you talking about? Did you forget your meds?

Don't play coy now, you obviously have insider information that you're very proud of. Please tell us more about how our entire political system is one big pantomime. You can even skip to the part where you got this special insight that all us sheep just won't believe, to save some time.
 
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Just heard a funny statistic, Club for Growths (a super PAC) 1.9 million attack ads against Trump are almost equal to all of Trumps campaign spending which is about 2 million. Trump has spent no money on advertising or mailers.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
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Just heard a funny statistic, Club for Growths (a super PAC) 1.9 million attack ads against Trump are almost equal to all of Trumps campaign spending which is about 2 million. Trump has spent no money on advertising or mailers.

Yeah, he doesn't need to. He could walk into the next debate, fart in the microphone, walk out again, and gain another ten points. The people that love him don't do so because of ads.
 

sportage

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As I posted in MOVIES YOU'VE RECENTLY SEEN, "THE WALK" brought up a lot of anger with not only GW and his fuck-ups administration, but how they missed ALL the warning signs and ALLOWED 9/11 to ever happen.
AT the end of THE WALK, you just wish GW was in the theater so you could kick his ass up and down the isle.
And then we have JEB.
What goes around comes around.
Not only does it make perfectly sense that fuck-up Jeb is polling at 1%, but he also being a Bush DESERVES IT.
Frankly I'm shocked at the nerve of any Bush to show their face in public, let along believe people can forget the legacy of the name BUSH.
President? Jeb doesn't qualify as dog catcher.
And he should be stigmatized for what the Bush clan have done to this country.
Beyond that, all of them should he loaded onto a plane and deported the hell out of this county, to Saudi Arabia. Where they truly belong.
Jeb WILl NEVER be president as long as elections remain legitimate.
I'd suggest all the Bush's pack their bags and head the hell out of our country.
I mean after all, we would do the same to any traitor caught within our borders.
 

werepossum

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Just heard a funny statistic, Club for Growths (a super PAC) 1.9 million attack ads against Trump are almost equal to all of Trumps campaign spending which is about 2 million. Trump has spent no money on advertising or mailers.
Trump is in an odd spot politically where everything his political enemies say about him is far better advertising than anything he is likely to say himself.
 

Hugo Drax

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This is just a temporary setback, Bush will lay low and wait out for The non establishment candidates to blow over. Then Bush will rise to the occasion. He just needs to wait out the storm. There is too much money invested for a BUSH III presidency.
 
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Biggest problem appears to be that Bush doesn't actually seem to want the job. I don't think that he's ever really wanted it.
 

TheGardener

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This is just a temporary setback, Bush will lay low and wait out for The non establishment candidates to blow over. Then Bush will rise to the occasion. He just needs to wait out the storm. There is too much money invested for a BUSH III presidency.

Jeb is blowing his financial wad now. He can't wait for 2016, otherwise he'll just be edging out Lindsay Graham. I can't think of one reason other than ego why Graham is still a candidate.

Several weeks ago almost every commercial on TV station, national and local, was either for Clinton or Bush. Now that Clinton has propped up her ratings above Sanders, her TV advertising has gone down. But Bush is still plugging away, and is spending it all. But after getting a slight boast a couple weeks back, his poll numbers are going back down the hopper. His funders are getting fewer and farther between. A week ago a poll had him in fourth place in his home state of Florida. He may not even make it to 2016.

http://www.theskanner.com/news/usa/23260-jeb-bush-funders-lose-patience-as-polling-numbers-stay-low
 

Indus

Lifer
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This is just a temporary setback, Bush will lay low and wait out for The non establishment candidates to blow over. Then Bush will rise to the occasion. He just needs to wait out the storm. There is too much money invested for a BUSH III presidency.

As much as I disagree with you on Bush becoming President, I too see that exact thing happening. Marco Rubio will implode against Trump.
 
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Jeb is blowing his financial wad now. He can't wait for 2016, otherwise he'll just be edging out Lindsay Graham. I can't think of one reason other than ego why Graham is still a candidate.

Several weeks ago almost every commercial on TV station, national and local, was either for Clinton or Bush. Now that Clinton has propped up her ratings above Sanders, her TV advertising has gone down. But Bush is still plugging away, and is spending it all. But after getting a slight boast a couple weeks back, his poll numbers are going back down the hopper. His funders are getting fewer and farther between. A week ago a poll had him in fourth place in his home state of Florida. He may not even make it to 2016.

http://www.theskanner.com/news/usa/23260-jeb-bush-funders-lose-patience-as-polling-numbers-stay-low

The only reason why Graham is running is to be selected to be Secretary of Defense. That's why every interview is about defense, why he doesn't have any firm tax plan.
 
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Biggest problem appears to be that Bush doesn't actually seem to want the job. I don't think that he's ever really wanted it.

Agreed he is just running because people begged him to run. Him and Barbara said early on there have been enough Bush's. People in the party pressured him to be the anti Hillary choice.
I have a feeling this is what Joe Biden would be like if he ran.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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Jeb is blowing his financial wad now. He can't wait for 2016, otherwise he'll just be edging out Lindsay Graham. I can't think of one reason other than ego why Graham is still a candidate.

Several weeks ago almost every commercial on TV station, national and local, was either for Clinton or Bush. Now that Clinton has propped up her ratings above Sanders, her TV advertising has gone down. But Bush is still plugging away, and is spending it all. But after getting a slight boast a couple weeks back, his poll numbers are going back down the hopper. His funders are getting fewer and farther between. A week ago a poll had him in fourth place in his home state of Florida. He may not even make it to 2016.

http://www.theskanner.com/news/usa/23260-jeb-bush-funders-lose-patience-as-polling-numbers-stay-low
Wow, I haven't seen a single advert for either. Not sure if that's my skill at keeping away from television or what, but it's sweet.

Bush was banking on being not Hillary, but at this stage there are literally dozens of not-Hillaries. He was also banking on being seen as the smart Bush, but he's flubbed that badly. And I don't think he counted on the country wanting another Bush even less than we want another Clinton. Frankly I doubt he makes it past New Hampshire. It's either spend all his money and then go look for a real job, or quit while he still has some cash, invest it wisely (i.e. in the successful candidate's campaign) and hope for some political payback.
 

bradley

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BTW, great call Hugo Drax on a Bush III nomination Presidential win. Way to feel the pulse of the American people. I hope you will help me pick stocks next.
 
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